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There's a lot you can't possibly know
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about moving from home when you first
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go,
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even if you had been dreaming of it for
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years.
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When it's finally time to get in the
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car, get on the train,
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maybe go to the airport,
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there's a sense of
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surrealism.
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It's uh 10:39,
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so it's
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2
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4 hours before the flight. We're going
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for breakfast. I'm very hungry.
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>> Yeah.
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>> How are you feeling?
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>> I'm also quite hungry. Still pretty hot
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because we're layering.
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>> So,
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>> one of our luggage uh cases is uh4 lb.4
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lb over. So, we hope we'll be able to
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redistribute it somehow or they will
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just
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>> ignore it.
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>> Ignore that. 4 lb.
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>> Yeah.
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just landed in Toronto
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and um we have a three
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>> and a half
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>> three and a half hour layover.
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>> Hello.
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>> 4 months later.
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4 months after leaving Canada to move to
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the EU.
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Here we are.
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>> It is December 26th, 2025.
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>> So, I have a question for you, Laura.
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>> Mhm.
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>> Did this whole thing go according to
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plan?
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>> You know, it's it's really hard when you
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don't when you don't have a plan
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or when you have like half a plan. I
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would say we had half a plan
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and nothing. I I don't think anything
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went really to our plan. I don't even
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think being in Czecha went
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to plan cuz we we thought we would be
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there for for 2 months and then we ended
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up visiting
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like four different countries within
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that time. So, we thought we would go
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through kind of the the different stages
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of us moving, starting with leaving
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Canada, arriving in Prague, and then
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going going from there, all the
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different places. We
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we did not plan, didn't know really that
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we were going to visit.
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>> Had this idealized idea of what this
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immigration was supposed to be, right?
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We planned for over a year, made lists
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of countries and universities and we
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sort of came to the agreement that yeah,
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we have these countries that we would be
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okay uh
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>> like legally allowed
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>> legally allowed to work live and
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practice. So the first place we had
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planned and this actually went according
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to plan was going from Canada to Prague
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in Czech Republic.
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>> Um first day first day
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>> first full day
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>> ina and we are going hiking. We didn't
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sleep for like 24 hours,
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>> but then we did.
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>> But then we did for
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>> for like 13 or 14 hours.
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>> So
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>> very well rested.
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>> We have gotten our energy back and we
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are now hiking
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>> and yeah, I think that's I don't
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actually know how long this hike is.
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>> Uh it's going to be pretty long.
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>> Yeah,
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>> it's going to be pretty warm.
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And uh I am scaring Allora with uh
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>> Yes.
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uh stories about snakes.
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>> There's snakes here and apparently
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they're venomous. So that's that's
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awesome.
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>> And yeah, that that went as planned. We
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left at the end of August
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and we arrived August 30th in in Czech
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Republic and it was it was a pretty easy
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flight. Nothing Yeah, like I said,
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nothing really went
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off.
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That was a lot of stairs.
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>> We're walking maybe for half an hour and
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is already out of breath.
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>> Yeah,
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>> but we are on a very very tall spot.
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You
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>> see so much. You can see all the stairs
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going down.
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You can see check here. You can see
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uh you can see here.
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Wait, wait, wait.
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No. Oh, well. Did you do you like the
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hike?
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>> Yes. This is so pretty. This is such a
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pretty hike.
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>> Yep.
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We are now in Bruno. We just went to the
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Ukrainian consulate
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>> where we had a much better experience so
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>> and the one in Edmonton, Canada, that
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was
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>> it went so smoothly. Not a single I
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asked for help multiple times. They were
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super friendly, super helpful. They
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allowed me to change my signature. They
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uh like complimented me how well
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prepared I was with the documents. It
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was just so much better than what we've
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experienced in
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>> Yeah, that was bad. Um, yeah. So, now we
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are on our way to find something to eat
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because it was a very, very long, not I
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guess very long, it was 3 hours. It was
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3 hours to get here.
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>> It wasn't too long, but it was kind of
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stressful because we were stuck uh in
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traffic on a highway and we were like
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cutting it very short. We arrived like
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three minutes before my phone
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>> and we went for our first little trip,
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>> right? So,
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>> we were supposed to go with my mom and
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my stepdad, but uh for some work, it was
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supposed to be a work thing for my mom.
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They were going to Romania and they
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thought that they would just drop us off
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in Budapest. We just trained to Budapest
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ourselves and
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>> yeah, just the two of us ended up
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>> Yep.
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>> going to which I'd never been to Hungary
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at all. And Budapest is
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a very pretty city. It's it's a really
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big tourist place. I I would say it's
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it's a pretty big one in Europe. And it
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was it was very nice.
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>> We made it to the train.
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We We ran. Yeah. We We ran through the
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Prague train station like full sprint,
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but we made it. We sat down and the
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train started going.
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>> And where are we going?
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>> So, here we have some traditional
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Hungarian dishes
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at a vegan restaurant.
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Where are we going, Laura?
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>> Grocery shopping.
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>> Are we
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It's a moon.
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>> The eclipse.
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I know.
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My G
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Hey
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hey
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hey,
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Hey,
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you know.
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to find dinner. And we were told to stop
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and they blocked off like this whole
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part of the road and you could hear
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people saying like rolling and um you
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could see cameras
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and they are filming a movie just down
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this road. And so we saw Anthony Mackey
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who is the new Captain America. He's in
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what the second and the third Captain
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America and in the Avengers movie. And
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then we also saw I don't know what his
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name is. Jamie Dur Dand. He's Christian
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from
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>> 50 Shades of Gray. We saw them like
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really close.
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>> This is the St. Nishto and Basilica and
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>> it's right there like we're the big
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group of people you can see that we're
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>> very close so that was
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>> that was
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>> anyway returned to check
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>> yes and we back home
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>> continue I think at that point we
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thought that we were going to move to
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Finland because Finland immigration I
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called so many times
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>> we called so many different immigration
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>> so many immigration services so many
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times and the the Finnish one really
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seemed like they were like come just
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just come and see because
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you you know like we we want you to at
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least try like some of them were like
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absolutely not you can't do that like
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don't come don't even try
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>> you need to apply from Canada you need
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to come back to
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>> Canada yeah you need to apply from a
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specific place or you have to have very
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specific things and we will not change
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the rules for you but Finland was very
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much like
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give it a try so for for most of
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September, October, we thought we were
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going to live in Finland,
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but we do not. So,
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>> I don't think that is on the table
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currently.
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>> No.
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>> No.
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>> Then we were uh invited by my mom and my
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stepdad to take a trip. Take a trip a
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car road trip down to Croatia on an
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island called
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>> You'd never been to Croatia, right? I've
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never been to Croatia.
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>> Yeah, I I had never been to Croatia.
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>> And this was my first time swimming in
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the Adriatic Sea.
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>> Um
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>> so beautiful.
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>> It felt beautiful.
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>> Such beautiful water. And it was
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September and it was like 25.
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>> Yeah, it was it was warm. The wind was
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amazing. Um this swamp like like a mud
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place.
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>> Yeah, this mud place where people
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>> where people would put mud all over
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their body.
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You drive by and there's just these
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people and they're in bathing suits and
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they're just putting they're taking mud
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from the ground and they're just putting
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it and then they stand in the sun and
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they let it dry and kind of harden on
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them and it's supposed to be good for
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your muscles like it's supposed to be
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rejuvenating and and then they walk into
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the water and they and they wash it off.
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>> Also went to the national parkitzer
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in Croatia. Oh, that was very pretty.
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>> It was amaz It It reminded me a lot of
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Johnson Canyon in Alberta.
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>> Oh, yes.
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And then
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>> Yeah. And then from from Croatia, we
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drove to Slovenia, which I I'd never
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been to Slovenia either, but I think
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everyone else had, right?
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>> Not me.
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>> Oh,
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>> never been.
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>> Neither of us had ever been to Slovenia.
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And we stayed uh were we we were in
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Ljubljan, right?
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>> We were in Ljubljan for one day.
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Yeah.
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>> We drove into the mountains, so into the
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Alps, the Slovenian Alps. And we stayed
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in a village. I'm going to call it a
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village, right? It it was tiny. It was
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was a village and there was like sheep
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and chickens and and geese everywhere.
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And we stayed in a beautiful chalet and
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it had a sauna in it which was very
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nice. Um, and from there we we walked
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along like a forest.
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Then
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my family was very excited because we
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were really close to Italy.
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I I don't know why, but multiple members
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of my family kept commenting when we
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were in Slovenia, "Oh my god, you're so
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close to Italy."
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And so we drove we drove from Slovenia
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to Italy. We went into the Italian Alps,
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which was also the first time that I've
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ever been in Italy. But I mean, and it
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it was very very nice. It was it was
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cool because
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I had actually never heard
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Italian being spoken like in in a big
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group before, you know, like we were in
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a cafe in this national park in in Italy
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and people were just speaking Italian
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and do you remember do you remember in
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the cafe? Yes. So the cafe also lost
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power which was very very funny. Maybe
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not not so much for it.
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>> Although I had three coffees I think
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>> I got so sick
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>> and I made myself so sick. I had lattes,
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right? I had just
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>> No, no, no, no, no.
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>> Oh, no. I had two lattes and then I had
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one uh
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>> cafe comp.
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>> Yeah, cafe compana. And I got so sick
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afterwards.
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>> And um yeah, that was our vacation.
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>> That was our little vacation. Then we
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had to come back and then we were very
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very seriously
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continuing the job and visa search
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because originally our plan was that I
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was probably going to have to get a visa
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based on Ilia and quite a few countries
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eventually said no I I couldn't because
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his visa was going to be specifically
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for Ukrainians
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and it didn't apply to me even though
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even though we are partners because
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I could easily return to my country and
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not be in danger essentially because the
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visa that they offer is like a
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protection visa because there's a war
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but there is no war in Canada and I'm a
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Canadian citizen so that wasn't going to
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work and so we kind of got to the point
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where it was like oh I need my own I
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need my own visa I called many different
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places and they all told me that I had
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to go back to Canada and apply for a
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visa in in Ottawa. And I said, "No, I'm
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not going back to Canada. I'm I'm in the
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country already." And I mean, for those
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who maybe don't know, you can only stay
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in the EU without a long-term visa and
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not being an EU citizen for 90 days out
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of 180 days. And once those 90 days are
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up, you have to leave the EU. Not just
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the country where you've been staying,
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but anywhere that counts as the Shenen
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zone, which is a collection of
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countries. So, it's not like it's not
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like we had a lot a lot of time and we
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had been doing stuff leading up to this,
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but it always takes time to get
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responses and to get um like job
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answers. And um I guess out of nowhere a
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country that was completely off our list
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for the majority of our time just
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>> emerged.
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>> The country of Amsterdam.
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>> The count the country of Amsterdam.
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>> So I made a list of countries where I
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could work in integrative health without
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a medical license. And I had done
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research and I thought that the
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Netherlands
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was off. I everything that I'd read, all
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the articles said that you needed a
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medical license. I came across an alumni
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who also studied at the Institute for
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Menstrual Health, which is where I
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studied one of my um health diplomas.
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And she lives in the Netherlands with
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the same credentials that I have.
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And so I I emailed her and I got in
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contact with her and I said, "How do you
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work here? do you have like a medical
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license or anything? Like what's the
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terrain? And she gave me all this
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information and she expressed that I
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could actually work there as long as I
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followed all of the rules and I
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registered with everything. Pretty clear
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that that was that was where I was going
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to have to apply because it was a visa
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that I could apply for that was based
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solely on me and
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>> actually not me.
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>> Yeah. It had nothing to do
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>> only only like a certain set of nations.
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So like Canadians, Japanese people, I
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think New Zealanders,
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um
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>> Australians,
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>> Australians,
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>> and the other the other thing was lots
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of countries in the EU have this working
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holiday visa. So I didn't have to apply
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just for it in Netherlands on that, but
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Netherlands was the only country at that
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time that would let me apply for it
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outside of Canada.
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Like they had changed it very recently
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that you had to apply within Canada.
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Like within the time of us leaving
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Canada, arriving in Europe, they changed
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it. So you had to apply from within
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Canada. A week after I applied for it,
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they changed it so that now
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>> slipped in the last second.
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>> Yeah. Now you do have to be in Canada to
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apply for it, but I got in before they
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they changed that
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>> and within two weeks.
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>> Yeah. Only within it. It took two weeks
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to find out and it was all online. I was
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assigned like a case manager within
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days. At this point, we knew that
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Ilia was not going to be living in
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Netherlands with me. He he couldn't get
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a Dutch visa.
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>> Well, without a job offer.
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>> Without a job offer. Um, like we said,
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the working holiday visa that I got is
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limited to like five different
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nationalities and Ukraine is not one of
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them
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>> legally to get a check uh temporary
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protection which
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>> check visa
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>> uh which I do have.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Yeah. We now both have we are both in
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the EU legally legally on different visa
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in different countries.
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her. So, I guess now we have at least a
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destination
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>> instead of
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>> the uncertainty.
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>> We hope so.
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>> I mean, there are still a couple of
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>> positions
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>> in Sweden that you could that you could
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hear back from. So, I mean, randomly, if
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you get a Swedish position, we might
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have to reevaluate. Who knows?
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>> Pretty much.
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>> What are our our future plans?
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>> That's that that was our future plans.
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So eventually
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keep keep talking.
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>> Hope you enjoy.
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>> That's us.
