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(00:00:00) Your YouTube transcript will appear here (00:00:02) Joe Rogan podcast check it out The Joe (00:00:04) Rogan Experience Train by day Joe Rogan (00:00:08) podcast by night all (00:00:13) day Oprah doing an episode on psyched (00:00:15) dos God bless how about that God bless (00:00:18) that mean she's definitely done it yeah (00:00:20) you don't do a [ __ ] are we rolling (00:00:23) yet are we rolling yeah yeah yeah you (00:00:26) don't do an episode on psychedelics (00:00:28) unless you [ __ ] visited the May (00:00:30) unless you got in there you think it's (00:00:32) iwaska or mushrooms most of those fancy (00:00:35) people like to do the iasa yeah you know (00:00:37) because then you you can claim (00:00:39) spirituality above all other (00:00:41) people oh you think there's like a (00:00:43) pretentiousness oh 100% there's a uh (00:00:47) I've done it I've done it I I've (00:00:49) experienced the mother God yeah the God (00:00:52) yeah I've experienced Gaia yeah it's (00:00:56) like I think I think people do really do (00:00:59) experience that but also there's a (00:01:02) certain typee of Personality that wants (00:01:04) to let you know that they're enlightened (00:01:07) yeah they're they're further down the (00:01:08) road than you Andrew (00:01:11) yeah and like one way to get like (00:01:13) instant street cred in the psychedelics (00:01:15) world you say you do iwaska yeah you (00:01:18) know if you do mushrooms you might just (00:01:19) be some [ __ ] at a party you know you (00:01:21) and your friends are just [ __ ] (00:01:22) giggling non-stop on the couch it could (00:01:24) be that there's no points in mushrooms (00:01:26) right you don't get points for that you (00:01:27) can say you say you took a heroic dose (00:01:30) you'll get points amongst the Learned (00:01:33) yeah like go yeah but the casuals don't (00:01:34) give a [ __ ] casual you do iasa we're (00:01:36) going to pay attention a little bit Yeah (00:01:38) The Casual going to go why did you eat (00:01:39) eight grams yeah that seems crazy but (00:01:42) the other people are going to go whoa (00:01:43) what was that like (00:01:45) yeah out here Oprah's out here pushing (00:01:47) it I wonder if it's like (00:01:50) a yeah I mean this on my friend Mark (00:01:54) Bell's page Mark smelly Bell um and he (00:01:58) he said what [ __ ] year are we live in (00:02:00) like what is happening here what's going (00:02:03) on yeah I wonder if the iwasa thing is a (00:02:06) for some like a a quick fix you know (00:02:09) they're looking for like immediate life (00:02:10) change oh yeah for sure and also (00:02:13) sometimes your life has been such a (00:02:15) colossal series of failures that you (00:02:18) want like some symbolic reset and (00:02:22) probably there's a lot of value in like (00:02:24) a real like a like set and setting like (00:02:28) a ritual yeah like emerge I'm a new (00:02:31) person at least maybe that [ __ ] will (00:02:34) give you some momentum for to kind of (00:02:37) get on the right track I was talking to (00:02:39) Neil about this Neil Brennan you know he (00:02:41) he he did it he's done a lot of he done (00:02:44) yeah cuz he was trying you know he was (00:02:45) really battling he need off that vegan (00:02:47) diet yeah maybe that's it what if it's (00:02:49) just chicken is all he needs like RI (00:02:52) down in Costa Rica licking toads and he (00:02:55) really for real dude I if I had that (00:02:58) dude over my house and cooked him some (00:02:59) elk steak like I'll change his [ __ ] (00:03:01) life just you make an agreement just eat (00:03:04) this with me he takes one bite and he's (00:03:06) like I am (00:03:09) worthy but I think he was talking about (00:03:11) in like um and he was you know you know (00:03:14) one of his like superpowers is his like (00:03:16) cynicism right and it's really (00:03:18) debilitating and I tell him to this all (00:03:19) the time but like it's also amazing (00:03:21) because he's like hyper aware of what (00:03:23) the most negative thing could be right (00:03:25) so for joke writing it's amazing it's (00:03:27) it's like he's constantly wondering like (00:03:28) what would his biggest hater think think (00:03:30) it was it was one of the reasons why (00:03:31) chapelo was so successful because it's (00:03:34) like to create things you need to be (00:03:36) super confident you need to not worry (00:03:38) about who's going to criticize you yeah (00:03:40) so if you can Outsource your criticism (00:03:43) so if Dave can like think about these (00:03:45) things and be like okay this is awesome (00:03:47) and then Neil can be like yeah yeah but (00:03:50) this would be said if we do this and (00:03:52) then together you have this like perfect (00:03:54) combination of like uber confidence and (00:03:56) then this insecurity and then you make (00:03:58) these things that are just masterpiece (00:04:00) hyper analytical insecurity yes you know (00:04:02) like intelligent hyper when you're smart (00:04:04) and insecure it's even worse dumb and (00:04:06) insecure you can manage but then he said (00:04:09) he did the iasa and he was like um he (00:04:12) had gave me this like a I don't know (00:04:14) feeling of connectedness or whatever (00:04:16) people experience through it and he's (00:04:18) like it was really liberating I think I (00:04:19) did my best work afterwards CU I wasn't (00:04:22) constantly beating myself up like I was (00:04:24) able to create so I think there is value (00:04:26) in it but I do think sometimes people (00:04:28) are looking for like the the quick okay (00:04:31) my life has changed now and now I I (00:04:33) connect with the world and I'm we're (00:04:35) perfect you can always tell the guys who (00:04:37) beat themselves up because they beat (00:04:38) other people up (00:04:40) too what is it a hurt people hurt people (00:04:43) yeah the guys the guys who beat (00:04:45) themselves up they're always like super (00:04:46) critical of other look at him look at (00:04:48) his [ __ ] [ __ ] did you ever go (00:04:49) through a stage like that not really no (00:04:52) no I I figured it out when I was 21 real (00:04:54) lucky I talked about this the other day (00:04:56) there was one time it was an open mic (00:04:57) night and uh the guy went on after me I (00:05:00) was hoping that he would bomb and I (00:05:02) remember thinking that like what a [ __ ] (00:05:04) ass way to think that (00:05:06) is yeah like there such a [ __ ] way (00:05:08) to think and I completely shifted my (00:05:11) perspective because like you don't think (00:05:13) like that with martial arts like you (00:05:14) can't think like that you know you can't (00:05:16) think like that you can't think like (00:05:18) that ever that's like a weak ass thought (00:05:20) yes and then I realized like oh this is (00:05:22) like your brain trying to occupy itself (00:05:26) with you know this time that's going to (00:05:29) be between you and your goal of doing (00:05:33) something in comedy and it's so far away (00:05:36) you suck you're 21 years old and you (00:05:38) suck so everybody else got to suck so (00:05:40) you want people to fail and you want to (00:05:42) do better it's like just a total (00:05:45) scrambly I don't know what I'm doing (00:05:47) with my life thought yeah and I realized (00:05:48) I was like oh that's a [ __ ] ass thought (00:05:50) but that is very normal for human beings (00:05:53) oh yeah I there a lot of [ __ ] out (00:05:55) there yeah like we're kind of [ __ ] made (00:05:57) in general like it takes more effort to (00:05:59) not be a [ __ ] actually especially if (00:06:02) you have a job so if you have a regular (00:06:04) job job like an office job you will (00:06:06) pretend to be a whole different person (00:06:08) for eight hours a [ __ ] day every day (00:06:11) of your life that you're there yeah that (00:06:13) is a lot of time bullshitting yeah and (00:06:16) when you get out of all that (00:06:17) bullshitting there's not much you left (00:06:19) whatever could have been you never grew (00:06:23) because whatever could have been you was (00:06:24) stifled by fluorescent lights in a (00:06:26) [ __ ] monitor you're watching (00:06:28) Severance right oh yeah there I mean (00:06:30) clearly it's a metaphor for there's a (00:06:33) lot of things that go on to it a lot (00:06:34) going on and also shout out Ben Stiller (00:06:35) I didn't even know Ben had this like (00:06:38) level to him I've always respected Ben I (00:06:40) thought he was hilarious making great (00:06:41) comedy movies but I didn't know he was (00:06:43) like an Avant guard Storyteller like (00:06:47) right right I mean it's also the way (00:06:49) it's shot is brilliant the first episode (00:06:52) every shot I don't know who the DP is (00:06:55) like we should find out who that guy is (00:06:56) but every shot has like perfect symmetry (00:06:58) did you notice that I didn't notice cut (00:07:00) the screen in a half every single shot (00:07:03) it is it is Masterpiece and uh but I I (00:07:06) think about that like this idea of like (00:07:08) severing yourself a lot of people are (00:07:10) doing that at work anyway 100% And this (00:07:13) what you're describing they're this (00:07:14) other person at work for eight hours a (00:07:15) day yeah they aren't their self there's (00:07:18) a different identity they make up these (00:07:19) little terms like oh it's my work wife (00:07:21) it's like yeah well that's why it's so (00:07:23) easy to push like crazy woke nonsense (00:07:26) into an office space cuz people are (00:07:27) already bullshitting oh so if we're (00:07:29) already pretending here what else are we (00:07:31) going to pretend what do what else I (00:07:32) have to do to keep this job what do I (00:07:33) have to do to get a promotion what do I (00:07:35) have to do do I have to pretend that (00:07:36) trans kids what is it drab Queen shows (00:07:40) okay I'm in I'm in healthcare yeah on my (00:07:44) dick whatever you want to call it and (00:07:46) it's gender affirming is that what we're (00:07:48) calling it okay yeah and it's (00:07:49) interesting like to see how little push (00:07:51) back there there is about like from the (00:07:52) workers now that all these like programs (00:07:54) are being wiped away like well the (00:07:56) people that are losing their job are (00:07:57) complaining hard and then the Senators (00:07:59) are complaining hard but everybody else (00:08:01) is happy yeah the people who have been (00:08:03) faking it at work that are still working (00:08:05) there are not like damn it you know what (00:08:07) I mean they're just going all right I (00:08:08) get to be like a little closer version (00:08:10) to myself well they're probably goingon (00:08:12) to get fired at Disney you're saying at (00:08:14) Disney what do you mean I'm saying all (00:08:17) these 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make sure that you guys are on (00:10:37) the right track give a little speech (00:10:38) collect a little check and then what (00:10:41) basically say you're not racist (00:10:42) absolutely you're not you can't be (00:10:44) racist you're hiring Jesse Jackson you (00:10:45) we're on the right track so he comes (00:10:47) along gives you the rubber stamp Legend (00:10:50) and then and he's like balling like (00:10:53) balling out of control just giving the (00:10:54) rubber stamps to these companies and (00:10:56) then on top of that what they do is then (00:10:58) they would have jobs for people to (00:11:02) oversee this activity in a large (00:11:04) corporation so it's basically like no (00:11:06) show jobs the mob used to give out at (00:11:08) the javet center right I had a buddy of (00:11:09) mine who had one of those do people know (00:11:11) what the Javit Center is here it's it's (00:11:13) a big Convention Center in New York this (00:11:15) is where like ComicCon would be and all (00:11:17) these different things big stuff and it (00:11:19) was mobbed up right mobbed up so they (00:11:21) would have all these fake jobs that you (00:11:23) could give to the guys around the block (00:11:25) everybody's getting paid and it's (00:11:26) probably supported by the city in some (00:11:28) way right yeah I don't want to say his (00:11:29) name because he's uh still around but uh (00:11:32) he he was an actor and uh I was uh (00:11:35) working with him and uh he was (00:11:37) explaining he's got a no show job he I (00:11:39) knew he was know who you're talking (00:11:41) probably not but I'll tell you (00:11:42) afterwards [ __ ] great guy but (00:11:44) afterwards everybody was like that guy's (00:11:46) like so mobbed up got a [ __ ] noow job (00:11:50) you know what's funny about you get like (00:11:52) 200 Grand a year you don't even have to (00:11:53) work yeah yeah I mean I mean there's a (00:11:56) lot of like construction jobs and stuff (00:11:58) like this is well this is what us (00:12:00) finding USA found this place in San (00:12:02) Antonio that ukra billions of dollars on (00:12:06) it's [ __ ] Noah was there completely (00:12:09) empty to me it's not like shocking but (00:12:12) bro it's the numbers are shocking no the (00:12:13) numbers can get shocking but it's funny (00:12:15) that Jesse Jackson thing is an actual (00:12:17) job because I remember like I had a joke (00:12:20) that it could never work out but the (00:12:21) idea was was based on um it was it was (00:12:26) black lives matter when when Ukraine (00:12:29) started happen right so everybody had (00:12:31) the black lives matter posters in their (00:12:33) windows in New York and when black lives (00:12:36) matter kind of came down well it's once (00:12:39) those ladies got caught buying houses of (00:12:41) course that that put a dent in there it (00:12:43) wasn't great so so now there's all these (00:12:45) white people in New York that have black (00:12:46) lives matter in their window but they're (00:12:47) like I got to get this out of my window (00:12:48) so I had this idea for a joke where it's (00:12:50) like if I was a black dude I would set (00:12:52) up a business where we will take down (00:12:54) your black lives matter poster for you (00:12:56) and then replace with like a a Ukraine (00:12:59) flag you know what I mean so like you're (00:13:00) still a good person Jesse was doing it (00:13:02) in the [ __ ] 7 I had no clue the (00:13:04) Rainbow Coalition already worked was (00:13:06) that that is what it's called right was (00:13:08) yeah it was the Rainbow Coalition but he (00:13:09) had a bunch of other things he would (00:13:11) call it under but the whole idea was (00:13:13) just to make sure that people weren't (00:13:16) doing the wrong thing yeah do the right (00:13:18) thing yeah you got to do the right thing (00:13:19) you got to do the right thing you always (00:13:20) got to do the right thing yeah but the (00:13:21) problem with that is it gets hijacked (00:13:22) obviously there should be no racism (00:13:24) there should be zero racism there should (00:13:26) be zero discrimination everything should (00:13:27) be Merit based but problem with that is (00:13:30) and this is a real problem the country (00:13:32) is not Merit based in terms of like (00:13:35) where you're born like you didn't earn (00:13:37) your birth spot you didn't you didn't (00:13:39) earn your family it's a roll of the dice (00:13:42) and you get real lucky or really [ __ ] (00:13:44) unlucky yeah and as a community as a (00:13:47) country we pay zero attention to the (00:13:50) completely (00:13:51) downtrodden I think this is the the (00:13:53) biggest (00:13:54) mistake that the Democrat Party has made (00:13:58) is not making it a class issue like the (00:14:02) most successful people in the Party Like (00:14:04) Bernie and you like her politics or not (00:14:06) but like AOC they make it a class issue (00:14:08) every single time I think I think AOC (00:14:10) pulled the same as Trump in her District (00:14:12) why is that because people think that (00:14:14) she wants a help and Bernie has just (00:14:16) been taking shots the entire time he's (00:14:18) like look at all these billionaires they (00:14:19) got a lot of money you don't have enough (00:14:20) money campaign Finance is [ __ ] up we (00:14:22) need to stop that there's too much (00:14:23) influence with people with money and it (00:14:25) resonates with people oh yeah man we (00:14:27) feel like you want to help I mean you I (00:14:29) think like you were like a big Bernie (00:14:30) dude dude that was the first time I (00:14:32) really got cancelled was over Bernie (00:14:35) because they didn't want Bernie to win (00:14:38) and so they started calling me racist (00:14:40) and homophobic and I was like where is (00:14:42) this coming from when when Bernie (00:14:43) started popping what did they say right (00:14:45) they had to I don't know who they is you (00:14:47) could call whoever the [ __ ] they want (00:14:48) but like there was this idea that they (00:14:50) had to like thwart his success and these (00:14:52) articles started coming out where it was (00:14:54) like the Bernie Bros yeah Bernie's got a (00:14:57) problem his his his fans or supporters (00:15:00) are sexists they're racist and they're (00:15:02) these Bros that are that are [ __ ] up (00:15:04) and they're radioactive and they're bad (00:15:06) people and he's got a real problem so (00:15:07) they're trying to make him radioactive (00:15:09) and I remember seeing the reaction to (00:15:12) Trump coming on the pods and it was the (00:15:14) exact same Playbook it was like the man (00:15:16) is fear pods they're sexist they're (00:15:19) racist look how [ __ ] it's like you're (00:15:20) doing the same thing you're making it (00:15:22) about identity politics I think (00:15:24) Americans are kind of simple in that (00:15:26) like we want abundance but we want (00:15:28) access so if eggs are expensive I can't (00:15:31) care about your bathrooms right like and (00:15:33) you need to tap into that feeling right (00:15:36) there so if I'm the Democrats I'm just (00:15:37) this is a class issue but I feel (00:15:39) unfortunately a lot of them are in the (00:15:41) pockets of these wealthy people yeah (00:15:43) it's this all it's all a hustle if we (00:15:47) had the entire time if we had brilliant (00:15:51) people working for the betterment of the (00:15:52) United States it'd be a far better place (00:15:54) to live in we've had a bunch of people (00:15:55) that are capitalizing off of the fact (00:15:57) they get in this position of extreme (00:15:58) influence wealth and they make insane (00:16:01) amounts of money for people with (00:16:02) $170,000 a year salary and they keep it (00:16:05) rolling so how do you how do you do that (00:16:07) like how do you find okay how do you how (00:16:10) do you find somebody who wants power but (00:16:13) is also benevolent you got to get rare (00:16:15) human beings that's the thing most (00:16:17) people who want Power don't exactly want (00:16:19) to give back it's a bottomless pit bro (00:16:22) have you ever seen people get like a (00:16:23) little bit of power and lose their (00:16:25) [ __ ] marbles like who well I can't (00:16:27) say I can't tell a story CU be like real (00:16:29) obvious who I'm talking about but it's (00:16:31) not one of our friends I just don't want (00:16:33) to say it publicly it's not you don't (00:16:34) even know him okay but I've seen people (00:16:37) with just like you get a job where you (00:16:39) you're the boss now and you just become (00:16:41) a [ __ ] and a half like what happened do (00:16:43) you think it it exposes who they always (00:16:45) were or do you think it actually changes (00:16:47) their their character it's probably both (00:16:51) it's probably both they probably had (00:16:52) weak character to begin with but they (00:16:55) could get away with it if they were not (00:16:58) in situations that you know caused a lot (00:17:01) of anxiety or stress but then as soon as (00:17:04) they do get in a situation causing like (00:17:06) if you're the boss of some workplace (00:17:08) somewhere yeah I've just seen people (00:17:10) just completely lose their [ __ ] when (00:17:12) people rely on them and depend on them (00:17:15) they just become tyrants do you think (00:17:18) that they resent the (00:17:19) dependence I don't know what it is man I (00:17:23) don't know what it is you have a lot of (00:17:24) people (00:17:25) that depend is yeah I would say depends (00:17:29) as tricky be is they have the autonomy (00:17:30) to not do that but there are a lot of (00:17:32) people that (00:17:33) definitely rely on you (00:17:37) and yeah do you feel pressure from that (00:17:40) yeah no really no I feel like you took (00:17:43) care like before you open the The Comedy (00:17:46) Club you were taking care of these (00:17:48) people that you asked to come out here (00:17:49) and work for you so you must have felt (00:17:51) this concern for them didn't you hire (00:17:54) them and weren't you paying them even (00:17:55) before the club was open yeah well they (00:17:57) were all unemployed out of LA so I said (00:17:59) listen we're going to open up a club (00:18:01) we're going to find the spot but I'll (00:18:03) you could start immediately so like you (00:18:05) just get paid enjoy Austin kick back (00:18:08) relax we'll call you in about a year and (00:18:09) a half around it was around two years (00:18:12) but you felt the responsibility yes but (00:18:14) it didn't B burden me got it it wasn't (00:18:16) like oh this is a heavy responsibility (00:18:19) it's like this is smart we could do this (00:18:21) this is the right thing to do this way (00:18:23) we already have the best people that you (00:18:25) know got fired from The Comedy Store (00:18:27) because The Comedy Store couldn't open (00:18:29) cuz LA's [ __ ] and so we got them all (00:18:32) to come out here and it's like look the (00:18:33) right thing to do is to like pay them (00:18:35) now and we'll figure that out we just (00:18:37) had to figure out where the spot was and (00:18:39) then obviously once we got the spots (00:18:41) like this is going to be a long we're (00:18:43) going to have to put some construction (00:18:44) in this [ __ ] and do a lot of [ __ ] and (00:18:46) it's going to take some months so you (00:18:47) you knew it's going to take time you're (00:18:48) like okay I'm going to take care of them (00:18:50) in the interim but again it's so you're (00:18:52) not burdened by people feeling like they (00:18:54) rely on you or anything no it doesn't (00:18:55) bother me no if it burdened me like if (00:18:58) it was something where I was worried I (00:18:59) was going to run out of money like if I (00:19:01) was like stretched real thin yeah I'd be (00:19:03) like [ __ ] there's so many people working (00:19:05) for me this is a problem like I got to I (00:19:07) got to like figure something out yeah (00:19:09) but I'm not so it's okay it's just it's (00:19:12) like decide what you think about in this (00:19:14) life you know what do you mean by that (00:19:15) decide what you think about in this life (00:19:17) if you are you going to do something (00:19:19) that's going to change the way you feel (00:19:22) about having a bunch of employees or (00:19:24) have or you not or you just going to (00:19:25) freak out about it like decide what you (00:19:28) think about things what what are those (00:19:29) two philosophies like a determinism and (00:19:32) uh Free Will yes are you a huge Free (00:19:35) Will Guy Do You Believe In determinism (00:19:37) at all will is real okay I know it's (00:19:40) real because it exists in me the idea (00:19:43) though is that it's fleeting and it's (00:19:45) dependent upon a multitude of factors (00:19:48) your will is really dependent upon your (00:19:50) hormone levels your genetics how much (00:19:53) sleep you've had uh what what positive (00:19:56) or negative experiences have shaped you (00:19:58) in your life there's a lot going on that (00:20:00) that like forces you into this position (00:20:04) where you have to decide whether or not (00:20:05) will is real yeah but Will's real I (00:20:08) believe it's real it's 100% real yeah (00:20:11) like I know I it's not determinism that (00:20:15) makes David Goggins run harder than (00:20:18) anybody else it's will yeah it's 100% (00:20:21) will his knees are destroyed it's only (00:20:24) will that just gets you up off the couch (00:20:27) if your knes are destroyed and run a (00:20:29) tidy 30 miles that day yeah that's not (00:20:32) that's not determinism that's [ __ ] (00:20:35) it was determinism there would be tons (00:20:37) of those guys out there there's only a (00:20:39) small Cameron Hayne small little [ __ ] (00:20:42) handful of these like psychotic people (00:20:45) who have incredible will world champion (00:20:48) Fighters you know Gordon Ryan and (00:20:50) Jiu-Jitsu like there's a there's like (00:20:52) Gordon Ryan works out every [ __ ] day (00:20:55) of the week 365 days a year a huge (00:20:59) sacrifice if you want to be really great (00:21:01) at something you kind of have to be out (00:21:03) of your [ __ ] mind but you also have (00:21:05) to have an iron will yeah you don't want (00:21:08) to work out every day there's going to (00:21:10) be days you just want to eat cake and (00:21:12) sleep yeah but if you want to get past (00:21:15) the guy who eats cake and sleeps you (00:21:17) don't eat cake and you don't sleep yeah (00:21:20) that's will dude that's will there's a I (00:21:22) don't your determinism can suck my dick (00:21:25) because it's never there's no just like (00:21:28) accid Dental amazing people it's like (00:21:32) you know it's like a lot of similar (00:21:33) stories single bomb you know started (00:21:36) doing this and started doing invented (00:21:38) something when he was 18 do they all (00:21:40) come from trauma you think I think a lot (00:21:42) of people that are hyper ambitious come (00:21:43) from a shitty environment and what is (00:21:45) that (00:21:46) connection I think it's probably wanting (00:21:48) something better than you're (00:21:49) experiencing and knowing that it's (00:21:51) possible that it's out there and knowing (00:21:52) the pain of living in the ghetto or the (00:21:55) pain of being on food stamps the pain of (00:21:59) poverty and then the fact that like when (00:22:00) you're poor and you're young you wonder (00:22:03) whether or not you're going to have food (00:22:05) you know that's a scary thought for a (00:22:07) child yeah that's motivating yeah it it (00:22:09) puts a kind of fire in you like you (00:22:12) don't get a Mike Tyson if he grows up in (00:22:14) Brentwood yeah you know you get them (00:22:17) when they grow up in Bedford Stenson you (00:22:19) know you don't get them when they have (00:22:21) an awesome dad and an awesome Mom who (00:22:23) was there for their baseball games tells (00:22:25) them what a great job they did and (00:22:27) consoles them when they get hurt no no (00:22:29) no you have like a life of pain and then (00:22:32) you got some pain to dish out after that (00:22:35) I also but I feel like it's not (00:22:36) completely dependent on that you know (00:22:38) like I wouldn't say that I had this like (00:22:39) life of pain like I've you know dealt (00:22:41) with my [ __ ] you know but I feel (00:22:43) incredibly competitive and ambitious you (00:22:46) well you're an artist it's a different (00:22:47) thing right the reason why it's a (00:22:49) different thing is you're an artist in a (00:22:51) very specific genre which is talking (00:22:53) [ __ ] you're a [ __ ] talking artist right (00:22:56) like [ __ ] talking it to that it is what (00:22:59) it is it is what it is it's beautiful (00:23:01) it's a profal my favorite art form yeah (00:23:04) and [ __ ] talking artists they want to be (00:23:07) around a bunch of people and have a good (00:23:09) time yeah right so you don't need need (00:23:11) to come from trauma to be ambitious and (00:23:14) be a a a shit-talking artist yeah all (00:23:17) you have to do is like be someone who (00:23:19) admires success and who wants to (00:23:23) progress and keep getting better at this (00:23:25) thing that they love that has given them (00:23:26) so much yeah but you also you also have (00:23:28) to sacrifice and you have to commit to (00:23:30) things right you know I do feel like it (00:23:32) takes like I I mean I didn't I mean in (00:23:36) the beginning like I don't think I (00:23:37) celebrated a birthday for like a decade (00:23:39) like I don't think I ever considered (00:23:41) like taking a vacation or anything like (00:23:43) I was just so hungry to get after it to (00:23:45) get good to be like undeniable that was (00:23:48) like this goal like how can I be (00:23:49) undenied I would see these guys go up (00:23:51) like [ __ ] Greer Barnes or uh Mike D (00:23:54) Stefano and I'd just be like they are (00:23:57) just (00:23:57) undeniable and and yeah I don't know I (00:24:01) just I didn't even [ __ ] drink I think (00:24:02) for like a decade I was like I got to (00:24:04) get better at this I got to just kind of (00:24:05) work (00:24:07) and maybe that comes from like watching (00:24:09) my parents work hard or something I'm (00:24:11) sure that helps yeah they were really (00:24:12) hard workers yeah and that's like the (00:24:14) expectation of work well also you have a (00:24:17) lot of gratitude and I think if you have (00:24:19) gratitude you realize how fortunate you (00:24:21) are to have the ability to work hard (00:24:23) yeah cuz that's a real thing oh dude (00:24:25) especially working hard at something (00:24:27) that you're actually successful at once (00:24:29) you're actually successful keep that (00:24:30) foot on the gas [ __ ] it is keep (00:24:33) that foot on the gas let's go that (00:24:36) that's like the balance like you just (00:24:38) put something out so I imagine you took (00:24:40) a little time off afterwards yeah I did (00:24:42) I got like 25 minutes right now okay so (00:24:45) you're building back and (00:24:47) like I find in order for the next thing (00:24:50) I do to be different I have to take time (00:24:53) away uhhuh cuz I have to like reflect on (00:24:56) the changes in my life and if I keep (00:24:58) going like earlier in my career I would (00:25:00) just go go go go and I found I was (00:25:02) writing different versions of the same (00:25:04) jokes right like they were different (00:25:06) jokes but it was same topic same kind of (00:25:09) reaction and I think it was I just (00:25:11) wasn't you're trying to fill time I was (00:25:13) I'm on the road I'm like I got to go (00:25:14) back to Albany next year do another hour (00:25:16) I'm making, 1500 a weekend I got and (00:25:18) then you get connected to that material (00:25:20) because you've been doing it for a while (00:25:21) and then it doesn't really resonate with (00:25:23) you yeah and then yeah so it's like I (00:25:25) think Lou took a whole year off I think (00:25:27) I I really I really respect that yeah I (00:25:30) think I think it's wise yeah I think (00:25:33) taking time and thinking about it is (00:25:34) really wise and thinking about like what (00:25:36) are the things that are that are on your (00:25:38) mind like what is what is uh how do you (00:25:41) really feel about this world that we're (00:25:43) live in this this world that seems more (00:25:45) and more like it's not real more and (00:25:48) more like it's a [ __ ] simulation yeah (00:25:51) I'm I'm kind of convinced now what it is (00:25:53) a simulation yeah there something going (00:25:55) on there's something more to reality (00:25:59) than what meets the eye there's more to (00:26:01) it than what you could put on a scale or (00:26:03) what you could put a rulle or to there's (00:26:05) more to this thing this thing is made (00:26:06) out of like some very bizarre energy (00:26:09) that's attached to Consciousness that's (00:26:11) what I think what do you mean by (00:26:14) this I think that like I think it's (00:26:19) really (00:26:21) possible first of all it's inevitable (00:26:24) that one day they will achieve a (00:26:26) simulation that is indiscernible from (00:26:28) real (00:26:30) no doubt about it they've gotten real (00:26:32) close you know where you could put on (00:26:33) haptic feedback suits and you see things (00:26:36) and you feel like you're in a room (00:26:37) they're you know it's crude but it's (00:26:39) like you know Nintendo from 20 years ago (00:26:42) versus you know some Modern Warfare game (00:26:46) now right they're going to get to a (00:26:48) point where it's IND discernible yeah so (00:26:50) if it's if it does happen how do you (00:26:52) know how do you know when that takes (00:26:55) place now here's the question is that (00:26:59) the ultimate progression of technology (00:27:02) is the ultimate progression of (00:27:04) Technology (00:27:06) transcending physical reality and (00:27:08) becoming completely Digital (00:27:11) Life so if that is possible how do we (00:27:14) know if it hasn't already happened how (00:27:17) can we know if it hasn't already (00:27:18) happened well one thing I would say that (00:27:21) if this world was scripted it would be (00:27:23) filled with a lot of [ __ ] that's exactly (00:27:26) like what happened Trump would get shot (00:27:27) in the ear and say fight fight fight you (00:27:30) would have Elon Musk at the inauguration (00:27:34) looking like he's on another planet now (00:27:36) now Joe I just want to make the point (00:27:38) here you're making the argument for (00:27:39) determinism no I'm not I'm making I'm (00:27:43) making the argument that there's a (00:27:45) conscious interface there's (00:27:48) Consciousness and it's interfacing with (00:27:50) something that's not entirely real and (00:27:52) that is the life that we're living in (00:27:54) and we think it's way realer than it (00:27:56) actually is yeah so is somebody in (00:27:57) control of it or allowing us to have uh (00:28:01) some semblance of control I feel like it (00:28:03) might be controlled by the actual things (00:28:06) that are inside of it so I think our (00:28:09) destiny is truly in our hands I really (00:28:12) believe that I like that and that is the (00:28:14) case how is that not real well it is (00:28:16) real in a sense but I think that the the (00:28:21) actual way that things happen and work (00:28:24) is dependent entirely on the level of (00:28:27) consciousness the people have that are (00:28:29) experiencing it it sounds like very (00:28:31) hippie dippy and wooy and it all comes (00:28:33) comes from a lot of different things but (00:28:35) one of it comes from Tom Campbell who (00:28:36) who wrote this like very [ __ ] bizarre (00:28:39) book that I've listened to on audiobook (00:28:40) twice now okay where he's talking about (00:28:43) essentially what we think of as reality (00:28:47) is just a simulation okay the whole (00:28:50) entire thing is our Consciousness (00:28:53) interpreting everything as we experience (00:28:56) it throughout the day but when we are (00:28:58) not here here yeah that is not the same (00:29:00) thing what do you mean when we're not (00:29:02) here when we die you're saying like when (00:29:03) we're not if you're not on Mars is Mars (00:29:06) real or is Mars something that we we (00:29:09) agree is real we agree it's in a certain (00:29:12) space and it' only be there when we get (00:29:14) there like if if the universe is a true (00:29:17) simulation imagine what a mind [ __ ] you (00:29:19) have a simulation where it's perfect in (00:29:23) that it has all of these galaxies and (00:29:26) supernovas the moon Al (00:29:31) toes and without Moon being our enti (00:29:34) atmosphere would fall apart we would (00:29:36) never a to survive so it's like this (00:29:37) perfect little thing that's set right (00:29:40) there and we spin around and worry which (00:29:43) bathroom should we let the guy in a (00:29:44) dress go to (00:29:49) and okay this episode is brought to you (00:29:52) by Squarespace if you're looking to (00:29:54) start an online business you need to (00:29:56) check out Squarespace we even use use it (00:29:58) for Joe rogan.com you can effortlessly (00:30:01) take payments for whatever you want to (00:30:03) sell thanks to Squarespace payments (00:30:06) giving you options like Apple pay Clara (00:30:09) and more plus with integrated SEO tools (00:30:13) your customer base will always be able (00:30:15) to find you try it for free at (00:30:18) squarespace.com use squarespace.com (00:30:22) Rogan to save 10% on your first purchase (00:30:26) but meanwhile it's just a show that's (00:30:29) being put on for our Consciousness okay (00:30:31) so it's a show being put on for our (00:30:32) Consciousness right and somebody's put (00:30:33) on the show and then we get the ability (00:30:35) to go to the moon and then they got to (00:30:37) scramble and make a moon no there's a (00:30:39) Moon I mean it doesn't matter wherever (00:30:40) you wherever you go that is kind of (00:30:42) funny like if like our technology gets (00:30:44) so good and they're just going [ __ ] we (00:30:46) got to make this thing real like they're (00:30:47) on the way I'm well aware if you're (00:30:49) you're like criticizing me this is a (00:30:50) Dopey way to describe it but I I you (00:30:53) know if the tree falls in the forest and (00:30:56) there's no one there it doesn't make a (00:30:57) sound yes I don't even know if the tree (00:30:59) falls if there's no (00:31:03) there I'm not convinced I'm not (00:31:08) convinced I'm not convinced so the tree (00:31:11) okay okay so I if you take a trip to the (00:31:13) Pacific Northwest you will find trees (00:31:15) yes yes I just don't know if they're (00:31:17) there all the time so they're only there (00:31:20) in reference to us looking at them oh I (00:31:22) get what you're saying I think wait wait (00:31:24) wait so you're playing a video game (00:31:26) uhhuh and as you move through throughout (00:31:28) the map of the video game it itself but (00:31:32) you're saying without us accessing it it (00:31:34) isn't presenting itself it might be the (00:31:36) whole dat that might be the whole (00:31:38) universe the whole universe might be us (00:31:42) interacting with something but they (00:31:44) exist but it doesn't exist without (00:31:47) us yeah and and this is one of those (00:31:49) things like what does it matter either (00:31:50) way but exists with us in this moment (00:31:52) like if you jump off a cliff you will (00:31:54) die like gravity's real you get (00:31:57) pulverized (00:31:59) no no no doubt but it's because you (00:32:02) jumped it's also like your (00:32:05) Consciousness is is the reason why all (00:32:08) this is here you're interacting with (00:32:10) that's the manifestation of everything (00:32:11) though so I I get what you're saying (00:32:13) like the structure existentially does it (00:32:15) exist if we're not touching it feeling (00:32:17) it it's it's um what they say about like (00:32:19) the Native Americans when they first saw (00:32:21) the ships they didn't know what they (00:32:22) were that's [ __ ] that's not real (00:32:24) exactly but like but but I wouldn't I (00:32:26) wouldn't I wouldn't um (00:32:29) I wouldn't say that it's not real in (00:32:31) that they didn't understand what it was (00:32:33) in the distance they think they were (00:32:34) like mountains moving closer they (00:32:36) probably just saw these giant pieces of (00:32:38) wood and was trying to figure out they (00:32:40) had structur know it's wood but didn't (00:32:41) they have structures I don't know if (00:32:43) they're fishing at that time I'm not (00:32:44) sure but if you see them in the distance (00:32:45) you see them moving forward I get the (00:32:47) idea like your brain can't map what that (00:32:49) is yet you'd be freaked out so it's (00:32:50) mapping to whatever you know so it's (00:32:52) like oh [ __ ] is it low tide and there's (00:32:54) some like sand bars out there that are (00:32:55) slowly approaching what the [ __ ] is that (00:32:57) that's kind of what you're saying (00:32:58) we can't like I can't understand like (00:33:00) what a glacier is without knowing what (00:33:02) it is when I see a glacier for the first (00:33:04) time I can recognize glaciers everywhere (00:33:06) but if I take someone who's never seen a (00:33:07) glacier to it I think this guy's going (00:33:09) further than that I think he's saying (00:33:11) the glaciers aren't real unless you're (00:33:12) there but if someone is there at every (00:33:16) point in time throughout the world then (00:33:19) everything (00:33:20) is yes and we have people where there's (00:33:23) some people in Antarctica all right so (00:33:24) Antarctica's always there there's some (00:33:26) people in Alaska okay so that's always (00:33:28) there if we have enough people (00:33:29) throughout the world the world is this (00:33:31) congealed substance that we can look at (00:33:33) feel touch and experience yeah and it (00:33:36) might be like the map of the game is (00:33:37) like those NASA satellite photos of (00:33:39) Earth that's that's the map of the game (00:33:42) like if you wanted to like go through a (00:33:44) game a video game and uh before you go (00:33:46) through the game it shows you like these (00:33:48) are the Arenas in which you're playing (00:33:50) and you can choose one of them if yeah (00:33:52) yeah you you can choose one or you know (00:33:54) which level you're going to like that's (00:33:56) those NASA 3D photos of the earth that's (00:33:58) Earth is Earth is like the place where (00:34:00) we play this Consciousness game when (00:34:01) you're sitting at home and you're like (00:34:03) thinking about these things yeah do you (00:34:05) like talk to your kids about it no (00:34:07) that's too weird to talk to kids about (00:34:09) what about your wife were you like just (00:34:10) going hey she would go what (00:34:16) yeah you know my wife she' be like what (00:34:18) the [ __ ] are you talking about okay so (00:34:21) you're so you get out of the sauna you (00:34:24) have a nice sweat you're walking around (00:34:25) your house you're looking at the stars (00:34:27) you see [ __ ] Saturn or whatever if (00:34:30) she wants to talk about something like (00:34:31) that yeah she'll bring it up like if she (00:34:34) wants to talk about something heavy it's (00:34:35) not like I wouldn't talk about something (00:34:36) heavy with her yeah but generally like I (00:34:39) come home from work she's been with the (00:34:41) kids she's doing this and that we dinner (00:34:44) we have fun how a school have a good (00:34:46) time maybe we watch little Severance (00:34:48) together but if she's like did you ever (00:34:51) think that maybe this is all isn't real (00:34:53) I'd be like I'm so glad you brought this (00:34:55) out (00:34:59) okay so do you do you struggle battling (00:35:01) with the cuz some people when they think (00:35:03) about this stuff they feel their own (00:35:05) insignificance and it's very depressing (00:35:07) for them oh it doesn't matter like this (00:35:10) so you're unaffected entirely that like (00:35:12) your (00:35:13) existence in this lifetime over the (00:35:16) grand scheme of things could not be (00:35:18) important it can't be important but it (00:35:21) is but it is to you and it is to the (00:35:23) people around you so makes up our (00:35:25) reality then it's important sure but why (00:35:27) think about about that why think about (00:35:29) whether or not you're important I just (00:35:30) don't waste any time thinking about (00:35:31) whether or not I'm important maybe (00:35:33) important is maybe important is like a (00:35:34) pretentious word not I'm not important I (00:35:36) mean like don't think about the end of (00:35:38) the game play the game don't go oh my (00:35:40) God it's going to end my quarter is (00:35:42) going to run out just play the game but (00:35:43) some people won't play the game if they (00:35:44) know it's there's no game at all or they (00:35:46) know it is completely a game I think (00:35:47) that there's this like uh urgency that (00:35:49) is applied like okay I have to I have to (00:35:53) create the art that I want to create in (00:35:54) this time my life like time is something (00:35:56) I've been thinking about like non-stop (00:35:57) since I had a kid kid it's like time how (00:35:59) do I spend time it it maybe is cliche (00:36:02) but it it is the the thing that I like (00:36:04) value the most and everything gets (00:36:05) broken up into these little quadrants of (00:36:07) time okay I'm out here I'm doing some (00:36:09) pods okay I'm away from my daughter I'm (00:36:10) away from my wife how do I get back that (00:36:12) time how can I like create these events (00:36:14) like I don't even buy expensive [ __ ] I (00:36:16) like to take a vacation with my friends (00:36:18) I want us all to stay in the Villa (00:36:20) together cuz when we're in different (00:36:21) hotel rooms we miss out on those little (00:36:23) moments in between like time time time (00:36:26) and to me it's like I'm putting an (00:36:28) importance on this I guess the game you (00:36:30) say you're playing I want to experience (00:36:32) the most of this game as I possibly can (00:36:34) while I'm here and I have all these (00:36:35) examples of people like finishing the (00:36:37) game you know my dad's you know he's a (00:36:40) he's got Dimension and all this stuff (00:36:41) it's like you're seeing your ability to (00:36:45) I guess manifest that reality you're at (00:36:47) the kind of end of your game you know KN (00:36:50) but like yeah the idea of like me being (00:36:53) important I don't care about like that (00:36:54) in terms of how people see it but in (00:36:56) this time I have here I want to believe (00:36:58) it's really important and I want to soak (00:37:00) as much of it up as I can you know and I (00:37:02) think sometimes when you're like ah it's (00:37:04) pointless it's it's nothing like I (00:37:06) thought like Jim Carrey was going (00:37:07) through that moment like there are these (00:37:09) times where I'd see Jim talking about (00:37:10) like the insignificance of the world and (00:37:13) I feel like that can kind of like lead (00:37:14) people to sadness and depression I feel (00:37:16) like sometimes you need the battery in (00:37:17) your back of of of importance not you (00:37:21) being important to other people but the (00:37:23) time you spend here being valuable yeah (00:37:26) well that's part of gratitude too that's (00:37:28) one of your best traits um and having (00:37:32) gratitude is you would recognize that (00:37:34) you this time is precious you know and (00:37:37) use it to the best of your ability and (00:37:39) and really like you enjoy it like soak (00:37:42) it up did you see everything everywhere (00:37:44) all at once yeah I (00:37:46) did like I thought that was a beautiful (00:37:49) uh beautiful way of of of showcasing how (00:37:52) people look at like the nothingness of (00:37:54) Life yeah this girl sees it as (00:37:58) potentially nothing and falls into her (00:38:02) own kind of I guess you would call it (00:38:05) this just depression why is it worth it (00:38:07) what the [ __ ] is going on right and she (00:38:10) kind of sees her father as this like (00:38:11) weak guy that's getting like walked (00:38:13) over and then comes to realize that like (00:38:16) he chooses to deal with the nothingness (00:38:18) with kindness and love with everybody (00:38:21) and in reality he's like a hero like his (00:38:23) perspective on the world is the best (00:38:26) when confronted with the nothingness of (00:38:27) life life he chooses to like be (00:38:30) compassionate and loving and it's (00:38:31) actually like the most heroic stand you (00:38:33) can take I think it's very easy just (00:38:35) submit to nothingness you're uh determin (00:38:38) is maybe the wrong word but like you (00:38:40) like hard [ __ ] the day the day you're no (00:38:45) longer here is when you can no longer do (00:38:46) hard [ __ ] I feel like your day is full (00:38:49) of it and it's just constant like wake (00:38:51) up I'm getting in the [ __ ] ice B like (00:38:52) everything I see you do is hard you know (00:38:55) what I mean like you could shoot a (00:38:56) [ __ ] thing with a gun if you want you (00:38:57) could shoot animal with a gun I'm (00:38:59) surprised you don't run on them with a (00:39:00) [ __ ] knife like I like literally like (00:39:02) I feel like one day I'm going to see you (00:39:04) go I'm going knife hunting I'm going (00:39:05) bare knife hunting just because it's a a (00:39:07) difficult thing to do and I don't know (00:39:09) maybe that's how you process (00:39:11) the process existence well I think if (00:39:14) you are a person who enjoys challenges (00:39:17) and and finds a reward in like working (00:39:20) hard and and overcoming that resistance (00:39:24) inside of you as uh pressfield talks (00:39:26) about that that thing that wants you to (00:39:28) be lazy if you if you have value in that (00:39:31) you find Value in that and it it helps (00:39:33) you live like a more enriched more (00:39:36) fulfilling life you tend to just keep (00:39:38) doing that because this is like if I I (00:39:41) know for a fact me as much as I work out (00:39:43) and take care of myself if I take like (00:39:46) three days off you'll start to get used (00:39:48) to it I start getting depressed I start (00:39:50) getting anxious I start feeling weird (00:39:52) like I don't feel level like a couple of (00:39:56) days off you're just like H I just feel (00:39:57) gross I just like why is the world so (00:40:00) weird and then I'll have one good hard (00:40:02) workout and then I'm like oh (00:40:04) everything's fine and I'm like how many (00:40:05) people need that and don't get it so (00:40:07) what is that it's just a human body has (00:40:09) certain requirements CU it's designed to (00:40:11) run from Tigers okay the the human body (00:40:16) is designed to constantly you feed it (00:40:19) you have to feed it you have to deal (00:40:20) with these difficult things cuz for (00:40:22) millions of years that's how our brains (00:40:23) and bodies have been processed to work (00:40:26) efficiently and if you don't put in (00:40:27) those (00:40:28) situations what is the is the messaging (00:40:30) like you're wasting this time here like (00:40:33) what is that internal messaging you can (00:40:35) have both right you can have people that (00:40:38) have Brilliant Minds and [ __ ] bodies (00:40:41) they exist there's people that don't (00:40:43) take care of their body and they're yeah (00:40:45) Stephen Hawking uh but he you know he (00:40:47) had a disease but but he wasn't like an (00:40:49) Adonis before right that's true too yeah (00:40:52) people act like it's a big difference (00:40:55) yeah but the the best way for your brain (00:40:58) to work well is if your body is healthy (00:41:00) and has energy it doesn't mean you have (00:41:03) to be a weightlifter it doesn't mean you (00:41:04) have to be you don't have to do any (00:41:07) specific thing if you like running run (00:41:09) if you like tennis play tennis if you (00:41:11) like yoga do yoga but you should 100% do (00:41:14) something find a thing you enjoy doing (00:41:16) that's why golf or uh rather tennis is (00:41:19) such a great thing because it's cardio (00:41:21) and it's fun right you're doing a fun (00:41:23) thing you're playing with your friends (00:41:25) talk yeah Community huge yeah but you're (00:41:28) you're active if you don't do that I (00:41:31) don't think your body is in sync and I (00:41:34) think there's a whole lot of people (00:41:36) running out there taking care of things (00:41:37) with pills that you could fix way better (00:41:41) and and feel and look better more (00:41:45) importantly you it would help in every (00:41:48) aspect of your life it would help you (00:41:49) think clearer you'd have less stress (00:41:51) you'd be more reasonable like go [ __ ] (00:41:54) do something with your goddamn body and (00:41:56) if you if you don't do that I really (00:41:58) believe if you don't do that you have (00:42:01) less potential you could have a genius (00:42:03) mind that allows you to overcome that (00:42:05) potential with just just pure (00:42:08) intelligence just a pure Insight on the (00:42:11) world that's extraordinary you could (00:42:12) overcome [ __ ] hormone levels and (00:42:16) [ __ ] you know body fat levels you (00:42:18) could but you shouldn't yeah you're so (00:42:20) [ __ ] smart you got a terrible body (00:42:22) like what's wrong with you if have one (00:42:24) of these goddamn things you can make (00:42:26) that thing awesome you do anything you (00:42:29) have one of these you get one [ __ ] (00:42:31) body and yours is a dumpster yeah yours (00:42:34) is a dumpster for potato chips that's (00:42:36) crazy what do you like when you're (00:42:38) talking to these high functioning dudes (00:42:40) you're talking to like an Elon is there (00:42:42) do they value exercise and stuff like (00:42:45) that at all like can he even put that in (00:42:47) his day like um elon's a different (00:42:49) animal there's no other human I've ever (00:42:51) met like him um no he I don't think he (00:42:55) exercises much I think maybe a little (00:42:57) bit I know he was thinking about (00:42:58) fighting Zuckerberg so he did some (00:43:00) training who did he train with Lex and (00:43:02) who else was it George S (00:43:04) Pierre they put up a photo of it it was (00:43:06) George right so he trains with one of (00:43:08) the greatest UFC fighters of all time (00:43:11) yeah Lex fredman our boy who is also a (00:43:13) Brazilian jiu-jitsu black belt and I (00:43:15) think he just did a little bit of that (00:43:16) was like [ __ ] this shout out Lex man (00:43:19) there it is and John Doner the great (00:43:21) John Don the greatest jiujitsu coach of (00:43:23) all time so he was like learning some (00:43:24) stuff I'll never forget Lex uh coming to (00:43:27) my wedding Uninvited and blacking out I (00:43:30) never forget that I'll never forget that (00:43:32) thank you Lex we really appreciate that (00:43:34) in all fairness it was my fault that he (00:43:35) blacked out you forced him to drink I (00:43:39) kind of got him a drink and uh didn't (00:43:41) realize the Russian in him had a mind of (00:43:46) tone that Russian mixed with that (00:43:48) [ __ ] American bourbon that (00:43:50) [ __ ] was off to the RAC so funny (00:43:52) Whitney was like yeah I'm going to take (00:43:53) Lex I was like oh okay cool yeah I like (00:43:55) that guy and then I remember seeing him (00:43:57) on like a beach chair just passed the (00:43:58) [ __ ] out oh dude we had an adventure (00:44:01) yeah you guys went to Vegas later we go (00:44:02) to Vegas that night cuz Whitney had uh (00:44:05) wedding she had a wedding she did a (00:44:07) wedding at someone's house it was a (00:44:09) corporate G but it was a wedding at (00:44:10) someone's house I think it was a wedding (00:44:12) or a birthday whatever it was party (00:44:14) private party at someone's house must (00:44:16) have been a birthday so uh we fly from (00:44:19) your wedding he congratulations we hang (00:44:22) out and then hop on a jet you know it's (00:44:24) only 30 minutes to Vegas we get to Vegas (00:44:27) by the time we land Lex is lit I mean (00:44:30) Lex is lit at the lit lit lit so Whitney (00:44:34) uh performs at this lady's house um (00:44:38) didn't you go I introduce her oh I you (00:44:41) did like minutes I was drunk too I I (00:44:43) went up and said happy birthday whatever (00:44:45) to the lady I forget what it was I think (00:44:46) I'm pretty sure it was birthday um uh (00:44:49) and then I bring up my good friend one (00:44:50) of the most hilarious comics in the (00:44:51) world what he come and then uh um she we (00:44:56) we get on the plane or we we get in the (00:44:58) car to go to the plane to head back and (00:45:01) there's no plane they never booked a (00:45:04) return flight so we (00:45:06) try so we tredy to get a return flight (00:45:09) cuz they had got our little shitty (00:45:10) private jet to get there so then we try (00:45:12) to get a return flight we cannot I call (00:45:14) my service they can't the quickest they (00:45:16) can do is in the morning yeah like what (00:45:18) do you guys want to do so I we decide (00:45:20) that we're going to get a limo and so (00:45:22) have a car service drive us back to LA (00:45:25) it so was 4our drive or whatever the (00:45:27) [ __ ] it is it's me my wife Whitney and (00:45:30) Lex remember you just sending me videos (00:45:32) of Lex passed out at different parts of (00:45:35) the (00:45:38) Cino that's at the (00:45:40) airport that's that's at the airport (00:45:43) this is but he's like that for the last (00:45:45) 12 hours he was like that at the wedding (00:45:46) oh he was obliterated I mean he went (00:45:48) hard that boy goes hard yeah he goes (00:45:50) hard it makes you want to not drink (00:45:52) there's certain people I'm around I'm (00:45:53) like I think I'm done I think I'm done I (00:45:55) feel like less people are drinking well (00:45:57) it's really that might be that might be (00:45:59) your influence it's a good idea to not (00:46:00) drink so much I wonder if the uh like (00:46:02) the alcohol companies are concerned (00:46:04) they're trying to find something there's (00:46:06) always going to be drunks I I I see it I (00:46:09) see it uh like beard consumption way (00:46:12) down the problem is it's poison yeah but (00:46:15) everything's poison wonderful lovely (00:46:16) poison my favorite poison is wine I love (00:46:21) great glass of wine do we have a little (00:46:22) like nice little red going on here uh do (00:46:24) we have any red wine here I want to know (00:46:27) what you're drink drinking there's (00:46:28) something yeah there's at least some out (00:46:29) there for sure I we get some uh do you (00:46:32) want some I mean if you're going to have (00:46:33) a glass I'll have a glass I'll have a (00:46:34) little sip with I've kind of cut way (00:46:37) back on my alcohol consumption oh really (00:46:39) yeah way way back I would go every time (00:46:41) I'd go out to dinner I'd have a drink or (00:46:43) two every time I'd go to the club I'd (00:46:46) have a drink or two and then one day I (00:46:47) sat down I was like that's like four (00:46:49) days a week five days a week that's like (00:46:51) a drink or two 5 days a week like how (00:46:52) would you feel if you didn't have a (00:46:54) drink or two 5 days a week so I didn't (00:46:55) have any drinks for like two weeks and I (00:46:57) feel a lot better really so am I (00:47:00) breaking your like streak right now yeah (00:47:02) you would be breaking my streak I don't (00:47:03) want to [ __ ] your streak up well we (00:47:04) don't have to drink it then but actually (00:47:06) let's break it it'll be I don't mind I (00:47:09) think the key is like all things it's (00:47:11) all about moderation but the reality of (00:47:13) alcohol is it's basically poison yeah (00:47:15) but it's got great social utility oh (00:47:18) yeah I feel like people undermine the (00:47:20) value of alcohol and how it ain't around (00:47:22) for all these years cuz it sucks and (00:47:24) like if you travel it you don't get to (00:47:27) experience certain cultures in their (00:47:30) truest form without them consuming (00:47:32) alcohol right like if you've gone to (00:47:34) like Ireland you go to Dublin like (00:47:36) during the day there are very different (00:47:38) people and they seem kind of like tight (00:47:40) and DOW and then at night at the pub (00:47:43) after like a few Guinness it seems (00:47:45) almost cliche but everybody's singing (00:47:48) and dancing and there's so much like (00:47:50) love and connectivity and you see why (00:47:52) all this great like literature music and (00:47:54) poetry just comes from this tiny little (00:47:56) Island and you're like oh wow you really (00:47:59) need that like it is a tough place to (00:48:01) live and you got to stuff everything (00:48:03) down and you need a release valve same (00:48:05) thing with Russia like when I was in (00:48:06) Russia seeing them on the drink they're (00:48:09) way on the drink on the drink they're (00:48:11) warmer they're there there's warmth the (00:48:14) culture this explain it though on the (00:48:16) drink we have fancy glasses okay both (00:48:20) Cabernet though what do you thinking or (00:48:23) 2022 uh which one was the one that you (00:48:25) just touched 97 grab that one where your (00:48:28) hand is yeah that's that's what we're (00:48:31) going to decide 97 is a long time ago (00:48:33) how do you how do you like how do you (00:48:35) find that balance where like you kind of (00:48:36) need it that's old ass wine huh yeah I (00:48:38) don't know brought it sit how do you (00:48:40) find um what balance just like there it (00:48:43) allows people to access this part of (00:48:45) themselves that they might feel is like (00:48:47) a pushed down or the problem is if you (00:48:50) use it too much right and and it's also (00:48:52) the problem is like I notice if I I (00:48:54) drink three or four nights in a week I (00:48:56) don't feels good yeah and when I don't (00:48:59) drink at all for two weeks and I feel (00:49:00) like really good all the time like what (00:49:02) am I [ __ ] why am I drinking why (00:49:03) would I drink yeah like I don't need to (00:49:05) drink to have a good time yeah but you (00:49:06) know when you're at the bar or at the (00:49:08) club rather and everyone's being social (00:49:10) and Tony's like who wants a drink (00:49:11) anybody want to drink and they're like (00:49:12) hey cheers yeah it's just about (00:49:15) discipline it's just about like if you (00:49:18) feel like you're going off the rails hit (00:49:19) the brakes settle down yeah what are you (00:49:22) doing yeah you gota but a lot of folks (00:49:25) don't have any of that unfortunately and (00:49:27) you know they they'll be sober for a (00:49:30) long time and then one glass of (00:49:32) chardonnay later they're doing cocaine (00:49:35) and headed to Vegas alol there was Lex (00:49:38) fredman flowing rails on a (00:49:43) prate who does go and passes (00:49:46) out that's how drunk you (00:49:53) are oh this something so funny about (00:49:55) people passed out that's the It's the (00:49:57) funniest [ __ ] ever they they become (00:49:59) children they're babies they're like (00:50:00) infants you know they're just completely (00:50:02) on control of their body yeah you're not (00:50:04) even there hello look at you out cold (00:50:08) this just a weird aspect to people that (00:50:09) we have to shut off yeah that's so (00:50:12) weird I was just uh watching this video (00:50:15) about this guy who uh he did a radio (00:50:19) broadcast in Time Square where he stayed (00:50:22) up for eight days okay and this guy (00:50:25) started having crazy (00:50:27) hallucinations he was having his REM (00:50:30) sleep his REM Cycles in his brain were (00:50:32) going off while he was awake so he (00:50:35) living inside nightmares yeah I'll send (00:50:37) it to Jamie it's it was crazy I think (00:50:39) Duncan sent it to me it's it's really (00:50:43) say that can induce Insanity faster than (00:50:45) anything right oh for sure dude I mean (00:50:49) that that without a doubt the sleep (00:50:50) deprivation yeah sleep deprivation is (00:50:53) really bad for you how many hours you (00:50:55) get a night I try to get at least seven (00:50:58) oh wow (00:50:59) um I get more but what if you come home (00:51:02) late from the club you're just what when (00:51:04) I do if uh if it's school days (00:51:08) especially um I get up in the morning I (00:51:10) say goodbye and then I'll maybe go back (00:51:12) to sleep for an hour so like I'll get up (00:51:15) with them you know see them off and then (00:51:18) I'll go back to sleep for like one more (00:51:19) hour cuz I can I can sleep on the ground (00:51:21) dude I can go to sleep on rocks I could (00:51:25) I just I know how to pass out so like I (00:51:27) could go right back to sleep and I'm (00:51:29) good but I like seven but I can function (00:51:32) on six I had six last night yeah I had (00:51:34) to get up in the morning for a dentist (00:51:35) appointment uh but generally speaking (00:51:39) um I'm looking for eight yeah I like (00:51:42) eight yeah Eight's where it's at I don't (00:51:44) think I've had eight (00:51:45) hours I don't think I've had eight hours (00:51:47) since I had a kid oh yeah that I didn't (00:51:49) either for a (00:51:52) while it takes a long (00:51:54) time and it's also like (00:51:58) uh your day is way more occupied oh it's (00:52:02) it's a completely different like you (00:52:04) really realize how much your your actual (00:52:07) time working on something is precious (00:52:10) when you have children because like they (00:52:12) just go to bed you're like okay I got an (00:52:14) hour to get some [ __ ] done yep you you (00:52:17) got one hour you don't have an hour to (00:52:18) flip through your phone check out Tik (00:52:19) Tok uhuh you got an hour to get (00:52:21) something done and then you got to go to (00:52:23) bed and then you got to get up in the (00:52:25) morning you got to get up early you got (00:52:26) to help with this help with that we're (00:52:27) doing this we're doing that we're (00:52:28) packing our stuff in here and okay let's (00:52:30) go there and there's a thing after (00:52:31) school remember it's at 4:30 don't be (00:52:33) late okay 4:30 and then you got to zoom (00:52:36) over from here and go to the it's like (00:52:38) your day is so occupied but it makes you (00:52:40) more disciplined it makes you more (00:52:41) disciplined and it makes you feel more (00:52:42) productive like it's weird like even (00:52:45) going out and like say having some (00:52:47) drinks or whatever and waking up and (00:52:48) feeling kind of shitty without like the (00:52:50) kid I kind of feel guilty by halfway (00:52:52) through the day I'm like what was I (00:52:53) doing why the [ __ ] did I go out party (00:52:55) but when I'm like up at and I'm [ __ ] (00:52:57) tired I'm hung over and I'm with my wife (00:53:00) taking care of the baby by 12 I'm like (00:53:03) I'm a good [ __ ] parent like I I feel (00:53:05) like this I feel like a positive (00:53:07) sensation in the place of this like (00:53:10) guilt-ridden one that I would used to (00:53:11) feel maybe and I think it's that (00:53:13) immediate productivity that purpose (00:53:15) there's this human being that you love (00:53:16) more than anything that is like deeply (00:53:18) relying on you yeah and um yeah I feel I (00:53:21) don't know it's also the kind of love (00:53:23) you have with them is just Indescribable (00:53:26) how old were you when had your first 40 (00:53:29) yes so I'm I'm 41 so I was yeah it's the (00:53:32) same thing (00:53:33) it's it's yeah it's every cliche it's (00:53:36) amazing you spend all this time as a as (00:53:39) a comedian like thinking of unique or (00:53:41) different angles M and then you're (00:53:43) presented with your child and like every (00:53:46) feeling you have is the most cliche (00:53:49) feeling that everybody has ever (00:53:51) described in having a child yeah and (00:53:54) then you don't mind when babies are (00:53:55) crying on airplanes anymore dude it (00:53:57) completely changes everything it it is (00:54:00) it is adorable when they're crying on (00:54:01) the airplane yeah you want to like you (00:54:03) almost want to like help the mom isn't (00:54:05) that crazy how when you're a young man (00:54:06) you're like oh my God a baby's crying (00:54:09) you like look for something to cover (00:54:10) your ears with that's also a big city (00:54:12) thing I feel like I feel like places (00:54:15) that like country places where they're (00:54:17) so used to where there's family Dynamics (00:54:18) and like that's rewarded and I grew up (00:54:20) in the city where it just wasn't that (00:54:21) rewarded and it's like a rare thing to (00:54:24) even like be a kid in the city well (00:54:26) especially (00:54:27) um you be you're a kid in the city and (00:54:30) then you go from that to being a standup (00:54:32) comedian so you're a nighttime nightclub (00:54:35) guy like the whole baby crying like oh (00:54:38) Jesus yeah it's like wo some bad (00:54:42) decision making going on over there yeah (00:54:44) yeah but it is I wish that I would like (00:54:46) us to change that a bit I think that's (00:54:48) the thing that's kind of missing in like (00:54:50) this masculinity movement is fatherhood (00:54:53) like I I hear a lot of guys talking (00:54:54) about is there a masculinity movement (00:54:55) going on apparent on these pods that we (00:54:58) do is that what it is we're the (00:54:59) manosphere dude this is where [ __ ] (00:55:01) men hang out I don't think they consider (00:55:03) us the manosphere honestly I think the (00:55:05) manosphere is like those pickup artist (00:55:07) type dudes but that's the thing none of (00:55:08) those guys have kids or they talk about (00:55:10) like what it is to be a man and it's (00:55:12) like buddy like you're missing out on (00:55:14) the most important part of the entire (00:55:16) process yeah like I want to hear the (00:55:17) guys who have a bunch of kids telling me (00:55:19) what it is to be a man right like to me (00:55:21) that's way more valuable and I feel like (00:55:23) they're missing out on like the defining (00:55:25) moment in a man's life life even [ __ ] (00:55:28) have Alpha [ __ ] there's like a leader (00:55:30) of the [ __ ] oh that's (00:55:33) fire you know so like they're they're a (00:55:36) leader of a movement but what what kind (00:55:38) of movement you leading bro yeah what (00:55:40) kind of movement you leading yeah you (00:55:41) know it's it is yeah you go to an Island (00:55:44) full of [ __ ] and you could become the (00:55:45) there's going to be somebody there just (00:55:46) find out who that head [ __ ] is and say (00:55:50) yeah yeah up those [ __ ] are probably (00:55:52) easier to lead oh yeah for sure they've (00:55:54) been that [ __ ] has been leading them (00:55:57) yeah yeah (00:56:00) yeah yeah just it's like I saw one CNN (00:56:04) after the election they were talking (00:56:05) about us in specific and they were (00:56:08) talking about how there is this network (00:56:11) of podcasts that are inter (00:56:13) interconnected that has been (00:56:15) financed like this this huge Corporate (00:56:19) Finance Network Black Rifle coffee it's (00:56:22) like it's so stupid no it's it's (00:56:25) actually just a bunch of friends [ __ ] (00:56:27) idiots we just to do each other podcast (00:56:29) but they're like trying to sort it out (00:56:32) support each other they go on each (00:56:34) other's shows and they're all in this (00:56:36) together well we need that on the left (00:56:38) like good luck you guys cancel each (00:56:42) other if you're [ __ ] Ukraine flag is (00:56:44) too small (00:56:46) yeah 6 by6 yeah you [ __ ] talk [ __ ] (00:56:50) about each other for not having trans (00:56:52) kids you guys are out of your mind (00:56:54) you're not going to you're not going to (00:56:55) sync up together you're you're in (00:56:57) suicide cult yeah I think that was the (00:57:01) results of the election I don't think (00:57:02) that they would like to believe this but (00:57:04) it was a rejection of what was happening (00:57:06) I think the the assumption is everybody (00:57:08) just loves Trump and he's just this (00:57:10) populous and every person that voted for (00:57:11) him is like I just love everything about (00:57:13) this guy but I actually think that a lot (00:57:15) of people were just like I don't like (00:57:18) what's happening now right and this (00:57:20) current Administration is saying that (00:57:22) they don't want to change much that's (00:57:24) happening now right so I'm voting (00:57:26) against that lack of change right and I (00:57:28) think it's important for them to realize (00:57:30) that I talk about this a lot especially (00:57:33) with charlot on the Pod and it's just (00:57:34) like you have to be reflective of like (00:57:36) what the people are telling you like (00:57:38) when that the Mion thing happened and (00:57:40) the reaction by the people was to laugh (00:57:42) at it yeah they were kind of Pumped but (00:57:45) you got to look at that and you got to (00:57:46) pay very close attention to what people (00:57:49) are feeling don't tell them what they (00:57:51) should feel and you know better and oh (00:57:53) we have to you know lead them to the (00:57:55) water cuz they're too stupid to know how (00:57:56) to find it no no no they are (00:57:59) disillusioned by the medical system and (00:58:02) if you don't meet them there you're (00:58:03) never going to win ever yeah and I feel (00:58:07) like that's at least from talking to (00:58:09) Trump that was something that I got from (00:58:10) him was like it doesn't seem like it (00:58:12) when you see him on the news and [ __ ] (00:58:14) but he's like an acute listener like he (00:58:16) listens to what people are (00:58:18) saying and he listens more importantly (00:58:20) what they're feeling and he can tap into (00:58:22) those feelings and I think that that's (00:58:24) what people have had a lot of success in (00:58:26) politics were able to do Barack did it (00:58:28) Bill Clinton did it probably maybe the (00:58:30) best Bill might have been the best his (00:58:32) AB ability to communicate to people what (00:58:35) they were feeling I know you feel pain I (00:58:39) do feel pain Bill I'm here for you you (00:58:42) are I am I would love that you know it (00:58:45) was I'm going to be your leader yeah it (00:58:48) was uh yeah it's um you need to listen (00:58:52) what I think what Trump's done that's (00:58:53) really brilliant is uh bring in people (00:58:56) like tulsey gabard Robert F Kennedy Jr (00:58:58) cash Patel like bring in those people (00:59:01) and like you you you you kind of really (00:59:04) do get a chance to change things like (00:59:06) legitimately change things think about (00:59:07) that decision right it's like those (00:59:10) people are all echoing sentiments that (00:59:13) the majority of Americans feel they we (00:59:16) do not trust the food here's the guy who (00:59:19) says the food is bad right maybe we (00:59:21) should put him in control of the food (00:59:24) kind of like a simple thing yeah instead (00:59:26) of going well this guy is the food (00:59:28) doctor and we're going to hire the food (00:59:30) doctor because he knows what food is (00:59:31) good for you and you guys should just (00:59:33) shut up and listen and I feel like (00:59:34) there's a lot of this like top down on (00:59:37) the left and I'm not trying to just like (00:59:40) bag on the left I don't care really (00:59:42) about that like I don't even care about (00:59:43) the politics I care more about like what (00:59:44) where the the cultural liquidity is it's (00:59:47) like you can't talk down to people (00:59:50) there's this like ivy league (00:59:51) pretentiousness in the Democratic party (00:59:53) I feel where they're like we know better (00:59:55) and just (00:59:57) you must be stupid if you don't agree (00:59:58) with us and it's like all right well I'm (01:00:00) stupid I'm dumb I'm dumb then so why (01:00:04) doesn't somebody meet me where I'm (01:00:06) stupid and start at least making me feel (01:00:08) like I'm not an [ __ ] for the way that (01:00:10) I you know for my I guess you could say (01:00:12) political leanings now yeah I feel like (01:00:15) they need to meet and it's a very simple (01:00:16) thing make it a class issue and I think (01:00:18) they win and say what you want about (01:00:20) America but like I think it's better if (01:00:22) we have two president or two people (01:00:23) running for president that we're stoked (01:00:24) about and it's a really hard decision (01:00:26) yeah that would be wonderful yeah that's (01:00:29) not what we had um we had one group of (01:00:31) people that legitimately wanted to (01:00:32) change things and then we're going to (01:00:34) see what happens if they do what but (01:00:35) you're seeing weird stuff today that you (01:00:38) never see before which is like a real (01:00:40) adjustment to the age of the internet (01:00:42) one of the things you're seeing is I (01:00:43) don't know if you saw the 22 different (01:00:46) Congress people who were all saying the (01:00:49) exact same line with the word [ __ ] in it (01:00:53) what was the line so it's like it's this (01:00:55) speech (01:00:56) they're reading it verbatim they're all (01:00:58) reading it and doing it to a microphone (01:01:01) as if it's a rant but they're all doing (01:01:04) from the same script and the [ __ ] ain't (01:01:06) right the [ __ ] ain't right is the (01:01:08) beginning of how when in the history of (01:01:11) the United States has a politician (01:01:13) politician said [ __ ] and not just one (01:01:17) but 22 of them in taper can you pull it (01:01:19) up just we can see it because it's so (01:01:21) nuts when you see them all together it's (01:01:24) just like they have it on screens as (01:01:27) tiles and they're all saying the same (01:01:29) words they all have their own little (01:01:30) flare they put on it yeah look at this (01:01:32) put put your headphones on this is (01:01:33) [ __ ] (01:01:34) bananas terrible it's hard to listen (01:01:37) it's (01:01:44) okay you won't be able you can't really (01:01:46) tell it's like a crowd but when they had (01:01:49) three of them when it was the first (01:01:50) first three was like it was Chuck (01:01:52) Schumer and someone else yeah (01:01:56) they they're saying the exact oh (01:01:57) Elizabeth Warren and someone else (01:01:59) they're all saying they're saying the (01:02:00) exact same words in the exact same (01:02:03) subjects in the exact same order you (01:02:05) guys are all reading off a script and (01:02:07) you're trying by putting the word [ __ ] (01:02:09) in there to be authentic well [ __ ] ain't (01:02:12) right to be specifically authentic (01:02:14) they're like we need to speak to (01:02:15) workingclass people to the kids and it (01:02:19) it is kind of like bigoted in a weird (01:02:21) way where like they it feels like (01:02:23) they're almost in a think tank like Hey (01:02:24) listen these poor dummies they like it (01:02:26) when you curse so if you use a few curse (01:02:29) words in your speech they're going to (01:02:30) really relate to you and it's like no no (01:02:32) no we actually need somebody disruptive (01:02:35) we need somebody on the left that is (01:02:37) that might speak like that but (01:02:38) authentically speaks like that and is (01:02:40) willing to disrupt even what's happening (01:02:42) the left because if you look at like (01:02:43) what happened with the Trump and the (01:02:44) movement like he disrupted the right the (01:02:46) right looks very different now than it (01:02:47) did 5 10 years ago right definitely so I (01:02:50) want like like a Maga Democrat yeah like (01:02:53) for real like and and what is that like (01:02:55) what do we at the at our Baseline want (01:02:58) right we like abundance tell me how (01:03:00) great America is going to be in your (01:03:03) version of it you want to Bill Clinton (01:03:05) talk that [ __ ] like come out talking (01:03:07) [ __ ] Bernie was talking [ __ ] and I want (01:03:10) you to come out and if Trump can say (01:03:11) we're going to take Greenland there can (01:03:13) be some Den that goes $1 eggs and (01:03:16) straight up says we're going to (01:03:17) subsidize it do that subid subsidize (01:03:19) corn you subsidize Dairy you subsidize (01:03:22) everything like why can we not subsidize (01:03:23) it but say something that's actually (01:03:24) going to impact people now Trump's not (01:03:26) going to take Greenland so maybe you (01:03:27) don't get the $1 doll eggs but you get (01:03:29) this messaging across that you're (01:03:31) actually trying to help people mhm and (01:03:33) you're going to have to deal with those (01:03:34) lobbies that are bankrolling you and (01:03:36) that might piss them the [ __ ] off but (01:03:38) that's the disruption we need for you (01:03:39) for us to trust you you know what they (01:03:41) really should do what's that they really (01:03:42) should have a strategic plan if we're (01:03:44) spending three what is it $350 billion (01:03:47) went to Ukraine what was the number what (01:03:49) what are they saying it was I don't know (01:03:50) what the number is some insane let's say (01:03:52) just let's just be conservative and say (01:03:54) 200 billion imagine if we spent 200 Bon (01:03:57) in the United States in all of the crime (01:04:00) ridden cities of the country just (01:04:02) completely overhauling them all right so (01:04:05) here's my concern about that is how much (01:04:08) do they spend in California on (01:04:10) homelessness 24 billion and then like (01:04:13) nothing changed right no they got worse (01:04:15) they did a good job awesome they did a (01:04:16) good job maybe we we could spend 36 (01:04:18) billion you know like so there's also (01:04:20) this idea like the current (01:04:22) Administration in these places even with (01:04:25) an abundance money is not going to make (01:04:27) change so you need somebody from inside (01:04:29) from the left to go hey these people are (01:04:31) corrupt on my team we're going to root (01:04:34) out that corruption but we are going to (01:04:36) take care of homelessness we are going (01:04:37) to make eggs cheaper we are going to (01:04:39) build [ __ ] 10,000 affordable housing (01:04:41) housing units so that the price of you (01:04:43) know your rent can go way down there has (01:04:45) to be something disruptive instead of (01:04:48) hey let's just go back to normal let's (01:04:49) not ruffle any feathers like I see what (01:04:52) you're saying I I reject the idea though (01:04:54) that um progress (01:04:56) uh can't be had just because uh people (01:04:59) have been corrupt and they've abused (01:05:02) money before I feel like you could Farm (01:05:04) it off to private corporations the same (01:05:06) way we did with halberton during the (01:05:08) Iraq War what did they do with halberton (01:05:10) got no bid contracts to rebuild Iraq and (01:05:13) they did it they actually buil built all (01:05:15) the power plants they didn't need (01:05:17) there's like a lot of waste and weird (01:05:18) [ __ ] that went on over there yeah you (01:05:20) could do that with the inner cities but (01:05:22) you could have say did a good job no oh (01:05:25) well I'm just saying like they actually (01:05:26) did get paid to rebuild cities so you (01:05:28) can get a private sector that would (01:05:31) would actually make money it would (01:05:32) become an industry instead of it being (01:05:34) bureaucracy so you see what I'm saying (01:05:35) like instead of it being something where (01:05:37) it's like California they're they're (01:05:38) taking the homelessness where nothing (01:05:40) gets done but money keeps pumping into (01:05:41) it yeah no the only way you get paid is (01:05:44) based on results so you have a contract (01:05:47) with incentives based on results yes (01:05:50) that is the problem there is no you have (01:05:51) to lower crime you have to lower crime (01:05:53) you have to lower uh juvenile Det (01:05:56) attention rates you have to improve (01:05:58) education scores you have to um make (01:06:01) food healthy food far more accessible it (01:06:04) would be very easy to open up uh (01:06:07) enormous food pantries in the inner city (01:06:10) and finance it in comparison the amount (01:06:13) of money we spend on other countries (01:06:14) doing transgender monkey studies you or (01:06:17) whatever the [ __ ] we do because you know (01:06:18) the stuff they do is nuts like $20 (01:06:20) million to Sesame treat in Iraq it's (01:06:23) bananas so just if you got enough money (01:06:25) for that you got enough money to set up (01:06:28) food banks in every [ __ ] City where (01:06:30) poor people can get nutritious food just (01:06:32) sign on have a driver's license whatever (01:06:34) the [ __ ] you need to get your food and (01:06:36) what are the downstream effects of that (01:06:37) like you have way less health issues (01:06:39) which takes down the cost of healthare (01:06:41) yeah this is also people aren't (01:06:42) desperate because you can actually (01:06:44) always eat you know which is a real (01:06:46) problem with some people in this country (01:06:48) right what's this about Jamie what are (01:06:49) you pulling this up for him they didn't (01:06:50) do very good job apparently oh well I'm (01:06:53) sure they probably well I said they did (01:06:55) do corruption there was some waste right (01:06:58) cuz I was talking about these power (01:06:59) plants they built that didn't matter but (01:07:01) the point is it was a business so you (01:07:04) got businesses involved and they they (01:07:06) went in and they got contracts to do (01:07:09) things yeah if you got contracts to (01:07:13) re-engineer these communities slowly (01:07:16) over time you'd have to do it where it (01:07:18) didn't shock the community but slowly (01:07:20) over time unfortunately you would have (01:07:22) to ramp up the law enforcement because (01:07:24) there's going to be resistance if you're (01:07:26) going to go to the south side of Chicago (01:07:27) and try to clean it up you got gangs in (01:07:30) there shooting each other every weekend (01:07:31) you got real [ __ ] problems have you (01:07:33) have you um but what's the alternative (01:07:35) let that keep going on forever no you (01:07:37) can't so you have to rip the bandaid off (01:07:39) have you heard of the guy he's the uh (01:07:41) president I think of El Salvador oh the (01:07:44) guy who made all those um the camps for (01:07:46) those people yeah I'm sure there's tons (01:07:47) of I'm sure there's tons of criticism (01:07:49) right 100% but I think El Salvador has (01:07:52) become like the safest country in (01:07:53) Central and South America yeah there's (01:07:55) no criminal (01:07:56) L they're all in jail and and I'm sure (01:07:58) it's some like there might even be like (01:07:59) a little North Korea [ __ ] where it's (01:08:01) like yeah you're not in the gang but (01:08:02) like your cousin is and you hang out (01:08:04) with him and now you're in his prison (01:08:05) and sure of course but what they've done (01:08:08) is completely like revolutionized the (01:08:10) country and if you ask the other people (01:08:11) that are not gang affiliated at all (01:08:13) there's this like undying support I (01:08:15) think he has like a (01:08:17) 91% support rating or whatever that is (01:08:19) and it's like these people feel like (01:08:21) they got their lives back now I'm sure (01:08:23) as I'm saying there's going to be people (01:08:24) going like oh it's are civil rights (01:08:26) violations yeah yeah you know what else (01:08:27) is also civil rights violation when your (01:08:29) like city is completely run by a gang (01:08:31) and you're terrified to let your kid (01:08:32) leave the house yeah so like there is a (01:08:34) version where having more uh punitive (01:08:39) measures for people that are breaking (01:08:40) the law will increase safety and the (01:08:43) prosperity of the people in that region (01:08:45) like in order to get investment into the (01:08:46) south side of Chicago you need to make (01:08:48) it safer Starbucks is an opening if it's (01:08:50) getting broken into every [ __ ] week (01:08:53) so yeah it's um yeah I like that one of (01:08:56) the first things you would Finance is (01:08:58) community centers You' Finance like a (01:09:01) real great Community recck Center where (01:09:04) kids if their mom's working yeah no (01:09:06) one's there to take care of them they (01:09:08) got real good coaches there they got (01:09:10) people that can set them up maybe for (01:09:12) potential athletic scholarships they're (01:09:14) talented maybe you have people that (01:09:16) teach you how to play music that's where (01:09:18) I went when I was a kid you know I went (01:09:20) to the Carmine Street Recreation Center (01:09:21) that's where I played basketball and it (01:09:22) was this beautiful place this amazing (01:09:24) Oasis where like not only you to play (01:09:26) friend you know meet friends and stuff (01:09:27) like that but I'm getting to compete I'm (01:09:29) getting to play against guys way better (01:09:30) than me and there're these I mean even (01:09:33) as I say this right now I'm like I got (01:09:35) to like donate money to like they've (01:09:37) they created this place where there was (01:09:38) a lot of kids in those programs they (01:09:40) might have ended up doing some [ __ ] up (01:09:42) [ __ ] man and they had a place where they (01:09:44) could go there was like a safe haven (01:09:46) yeah and uh look at us talking like some (01:09:49) Libs on this PO man well I think we are (01:09:51) liberal of course we are that's the the (01:09:53) biggest misconception of all this is we (01:09:55) don't want this place to be better but (01:09:57) there have to be certain changes dud I'm (01:09:59) socially about as liberal as it gets and (01:10:01) I'm a firm believer in a social safety (01:10:04) net too I'm a firm believer in welfare (01:10:06) and food stamps I just think there's a (01:10:09) way there's a way to address the root of (01:10:12) the problem which is people with no hope (01:10:15) and you got to the way to do that is you (01:10:17) got to give them hope you have to make (01:10:18) it safer for them to live where they (01:10:19) live you have to make it healthier for (01:10:21) them to live where they live and then I (01:10:23) don't think it would cost that much to (01:10:24) provide guidance for a bunch of kids (01:10:26) that want guidance and if you have good (01:10:29) solid role models that know how to do (01:10:31) that kind of stuff and they can all work (01:10:33) together and build a program and then (01:10:34) what if those kids wind up being like (01:10:36) really talented musicians or really (01:10:38) talented athletes or whatever the [ __ ] (01:10:40) it is what happen at classes like like (01:10:43) what's what's happening there like I (01:10:45) feel like you you've created an (01:10:46) environment where it's like these guys (01:10:48) can make enough money to survive which (01:10:49) is a very hard thing to do as a (01:10:51) fledgling comedian right and some of (01:10:54) these guys who are door guys they're (01:10:55) starting to get spots around even like (01:10:57) some of my guys you know like obviously (01:10:58) Derek Poston is like making real money (01:11:01) right and learning how to flourish as a (01:11:03) comedian instead of working 60 hours at (01:11:05) a job and then doing comedy when he (01:11:08) potentially can right and you hopefully (01:11:11) get to see this Artistry grow like I've (01:11:13) watched Derek explode as a [ __ ] (01:11:14) comedian like this guy's so [ __ ] (01:11:16) funny he's he's so lovable it's he's so (01:11:20) L he's got a he's got a don't tell (01:11:21) coming out April 16th he's and i' I've (01:11:24) watched his [ __ ] amazing everybody go (01:11:26) check that out nice but that's the type (01:11:27) of environment that I imagine that you (01:11:29) can create now you're very benevolent (01:11:31) right but you would hope that the (01:11:32) government can create that same level of (01:11:34) benevolence without leaking too much (01:11:37) money yeah it just it has to be done for (01:11:39) the right reasons the right way with the (01:11:41) right people and that was what we pulled (01:11:43) off with the mothership because I was (01:11:44) able to get everybody from California (01:11:46) but also I knew that that was the (01:11:47) formula because it was kind of like the (01:11:49) heart and soul of the store it was like (01:11:51) the people that were the coolest people (01:11:53) that were running things over there (01:11:55) bring BR them over here and it was just (01:11:58) the whole thing was so nuts dude it was (01:11:59) like the universe wanted it to happen (01:12:02) every light turned green right when we (01:12:04) got to it every light turned it just (01:12:06) none of it makes sense on paper if you (01:12:09) thought about like the idea behind (01:12:11) dumping a ton of money in a club and (01:12:13) your ultimate goal is to break even like (01:12:15) who [ __ ] who [ __ ] does that and then (01:12:18) it also you have to but that's (01:12:20) government government shouldn't make (01:12:21) money so the ultimate goal should be to (01:12:23) break even well you your ultimate goal (01:12:26) shouldn't be everything is a money (01:12:28) Venture right so the club is not a money (01:12:30) Venture right the club is a artistic (01:12:34) it's like a I want it to be like a camp (01:12:37) like camp for Comics like you go there (01:12:40) all your buddies are there everybody's (01:12:41) having a good time we're all trading we (01:12:43) were all last night me and Shane Gillis (01:12:45) were breaking down the me and Shane (01:12:46) Gillis did bottom of the barrel last (01:12:48) night for an hour oh we were on stage (01:12:50) for an hour it was the most fun I've (01:12:52) ever had doing it we were crying good (01:12:55) like tears rolling down my face crying (01:12:58) laughing and then we're hanging out in (01:12:59) the green room we're breaking down this (01:13:01) bit and we're coming up with new Lin (01:13:03) it's like a laboratory it's a hangout we (01:13:06) got you know [ __ ] Gary Clark Jr's (01:13:08) playing on the stereo everybody's vibing (01:13:11) we're all laughing Woody harelson is (01:13:13) hanging out with us we're all having (01:13:15) such a good [ __ ] time man it's like (01:13:17) that's what I wanted to build I didn't (01:13:19) want to build a business I was it wasn't (01:13:20) like well if I do if I sell drinks for x (01:13:23) amount of money and then I charge this (01:13:25) amount for ticket and [ __ ] the comedians (01:13:27) over I do the opposite I pay the (01:13:28) comedians way more than everybody else (01:13:30) pays and looks what happens but that's (01:13:31) that's just to try to facilitate this (01:13:34) artist Colony I just wanted to be a (01:13:36) place where this is like the mothership (01:13:39) even as a name like we came up with the (01:13:41) mothership because the first one was the (01:13:42) Asylum because (01:13:45) uh uh Mitsy Shore God bless her she uh (01:13:49) always used to say oh the inmates are (01:13:51) running the Asylum that was her thing (01:13:54) whenever she would come to the store she (01:13:55) loved that we were crazy she loved like (01:13:57) you know you know Dom Baris like jumping (01:14:01) around backstage and everybody's (01:14:02) laughing and Joey Diaz telling some (01:14:04) crazy story and then mity would pull up (01:14:06) and she'd get out of a car oh the (01:14:08) inmates are running the (01:14:11) Asylum and I was like if we're going to (01:14:13) Branch out we should just call it the (01:14:15) Asylum you know I like Mothership the (01:14:18) mothership was better because the first (01:14:19) of all Asylum was already taken there's (01:14:21) like a couple of different asylums so we (01:14:23) couldn't have Asylum and then it was (01:14:25) like (01:14:26) I'm so fascinated with UFOs I'm so (01:14:28) obsessed with that [ __ ] anyway (01:14:29) mothership is like the place where we (01:14:31) all launch from so when we go all (01:14:34) throughout the rest of the country you (01:14:36) always come back to the Mothership yeah (01:14:38) there's a uh like creating environments (01:14:41) where where art flourishes is uh so I (01:14:44) did Kill Tony the other day and it's (01:14:46) been a while since I've done like the (01:14:47) whole show I came out for MSG that was (01:14:49) fun that was incredible we had such a (01:14:51) good time oh dude it was great oh we had (01:14:52) such a good time your stupid jacket oh (01:14:54) my God oh my God that jacket had to have (01:14:55) it I knew I wanted to wear a fur jacket (01:14:58) yeah I was like um I I told Tony I'm (01:15:00) like I'm getting a fur coat I have to (01:15:01) get a fur coat I think I talked to you (01:15:04) the day before you're like you get (01:15:06) a I got it today of the show yeah you (01:15:09) texted me something you're like yeah I (01:15:10) think I'm wearing this yeah my boy Phil (01:15:12) found this dude who's a a private (01:15:14) Shopper and he found the spot to go he's (01:15:16) like one of them celebrity Shopper dudes (01:15:18) and he found me the spot so and I was on (01:15:20) it and uh so and I'm watching the like (01:15:23) in the interviews the interviews are (01:15:24) really fun like a lot of these Comics (01:15:25) are really green and they're going in (01:15:26) there and trying to find something but (01:15:28) like the interview portion and I'm (01:15:30) probably saying something that everybody (01:15:31) already knows but when I watch kilton (01:15:33) I'm watching it in clip form right so (01:15:34) I'm seeing like these like 60c versions (01:15:36) right but what I thought was really (01:15:39) interesting about the interviews is (01:15:42) there's a real generosity with Tony (01:15:43) right he's I don't know if even the (01:15:45) comics realize this like he's trying to (01:15:47) get you to write your first good (01:15:49) joke he's asking you questions where you (01:15:51) don't have to be funny but they are (01:15:54) funny because you're just speaking (01:15:56) truthfully right and it is generous it's (01:15:59) easy to just like you could bang on (01:16:01) every single one of the people that go (01:16:02) up there right but it's that's not (01:16:04) exactly what's happening sometimes of (01:16:05) course people are going to get jokes but (01:16:07) there's this moment where like you get (01:16:08) to watch some of these guys like (01:16:11) hopefully they're realizing they're like (01:16:12) oh I am oh that is a kind of funny thing (01:16:14) about me and that's like the first (01:16:16) kernel of like where they'll write their (01:16:18) first good joke yeah and it's a really (01:16:21) cool thing to witness and uh yeah (01:16:23) there's a couple guys that went up and (01:16:25) like there's one guy like his joke (01:16:26) sucked but he had something like I just (01:16:29) kept watching him yeah and I was like (01:16:31) you're going to be good like I hope you (01:16:32) keep doing this cuz you're going to be (01:16:34) good and like we started asking him the (01:16:36) questions he was this Mexican guy from (01:16:38) San Antonio and he works at like Office (01:16:39) Depot and there was something funny (01:16:41) about like hold on so like there was (01:16:43) like something about like you know he's (01:16:44) selling like papers and I was like hold (01:16:45) on so there's like a Mexican guy like (01:16:46) people are asking for paper like there's (01:16:48) just like there's all these (01:16:52) like like it seems like a setup you know (01:16:55) so but it was just really cool to see it (01:16:58) happen and like it reminded me of these (01:17:00) early stages of Comedy where you're (01:17:02) putting together these things that you (01:17:03) think are funny and funny is kind of (01:17:05) already existing in you you know and um (01:17:08) yeah it was just it was a cool aspect of (01:17:10) the show that I'm sure the people that (01:17:11) watch it and it's just a massively (01:17:13) successful show so they're familiar but (01:17:15) maybe the people that don't watch it (01:17:17) aren't don't know about the show they (01:17:18) just think Tony's just roasting people (01:17:20) and it's he's he's not it's a very (01:17:22) generous thing to do yeah it is well (01:17:26) Tony loves comedy and loves comedy to (01:17:29) the point where he's always writing (01:17:30) lines for people backstage he's always (01:17:32) like giving people tags and he's always (01:17:35) talking about did you do that bit like I (01:17:37) love that bit like he's super supportive (01:17:40) yeah with comedy and he loves when the (01:17:42) guys who do his show like William (01:17:45) Montgomery when they start to flourish (01:17:47) they start killing it on the road he (01:17:48) loves that he [ __ ] he he's actually (01:17:50) put together a tour now the killers of (01:17:53) kill Tony I've seen it and they're doing (01:17:54) like [ __ ] theaters yeah big and (01:17:56) they're kill these guys are good man Ari (01:17:58) Matty is [ __ ] talking him yesterday (01:18:00) man he's [ __ ] smart he's funny he's (01:18:03) super ambitious he writes he wants to be (01:18:05) an American so bad great he's a fun hang (01:18:07) he's got great perspective on stuff also (01:18:10) like yeah he he he know he's an MMA (01:18:12) fighter I I remember seeing like for (01:18:14) three times wow wow wow yeah he's a big (01:18:17) guy too yeah yeah but like yeah remember (01:18:19) like he even had a joke yesterday I mean (01:18:21) whatever it will come out but like it (01:18:23) was funny like he tapped into something (01:18:24) at the end of the bit that he did when (01:18:26) he does the minute and then in the (01:18:29) interview it really became the thing ah (01:18:34) right right right because what you get (01:18:35) to watch is like he's like he's a (01:18:37) veteran comic like he's probably been (01:18:38) doing it 10 or 12 years right so like (01:18:40) you get into real comedian mode around (01:18:42) 10 right yeah and you got to witness (01:18:46) live what we do backstage which is like (01:18:49) y I like that idea why why did you do (01:18:50) this and he said a line at the end of (01:18:53) when we're just doing the interview (01:18:55) that I think is going to be what this (01:18:57) joke builds out into I don't want to (01:18:58) give it away like obvious people go (01:19:00) watch it but to me like that part of the (01:19:02) process is so fun oh yeah and it is I I (01:19:04) don't know if people know this about it (01:19:05) like it is really fun to like work on (01:19:08) someone else's bit like it there's it's (01:19:11) there's almost like more freedom because (01:19:12) you're less attached to it right you (01:19:14) know like if if you have something and (01:19:15) you're like telling me the idea like I'm (01:19:17) not you have you're attached like a (01:19:18) direction for it and I'm just coming (01:19:20) from all these other places and what if (01:19:21) my tag bombs it doesn't matter it's (01:19:23) you're the one going to do it but it is (01:19:25) this exciting thing when you have a (01:19:26) colonel and yeah that this this moment (01:19:29) happened with it and you could even see (01:19:30) him go oh [ __ ] that's oh yeah yeah yeah (01:19:32) that's the next level of it yeah anyway (01:19:35) yeah they emerge right those the new (01:19:37) chapters in your bits your new (01:19:39) paragraphs they emerge it's the best and (01:19:41) for me it's like I need to talk to get (01:19:43) it out I'm not like a sit at home and (01:19:46) like I write the ideas like I need to I (01:19:49) need to be yeah I got this idea and what (01:19:51) do you think about this and then you (01:19:52) have to like give me push back on it and (01:19:54) then right confronting that push back is (01:19:57) like where the bit develops for me and (01:20:00) that's the beauty of like the audience (01:20:02) not laughing well that's why you like (01:20:04) New York City when you moved to Miami (01:20:05) you were like it's too nice it was like (01:20:08) life was beautiful everybody was caring (01:20:09) about family and everything and it was (01:20:11) just so comfortable and I was like I (01:20:12) didn't have any like resistance I need (01:20:15) so funny like I'm used to that chaos I I (01:20:17) need the opposite what do you mean your (01:20:19) whole life is resistance you're in (01:20:22) resistance with people (01:20:25) I don't I don't want to deal with (01:20:26) people's [ __ ] I got my own [ __ ] (01:20:28) de my ice yeah there it is you just want (01:20:30) to get out there and grind it out I do (01:20:33) 30 minutes on the sixth train right bro (01:20:36) you better have a bulletproof vest yeah (01:20:38) yeah the uh anyway what you were saying (01:20:40) about like hope that it is interesting (01:20:43) and I see like I see that for Comics (01:20:46) especially here there's this idea of (01:20:48) like getting on the show and seeing a (01:20:51) pathway to success it's a real pathway (01:20:53) it's a real Pathway to a career and (01:20:55) you've seen many many many people go (01:20:56) through it like cam Patterson David (01:20:59) Lucas these guys all have careers now (01:21:01) yeah he he had a funny bit too like (01:21:03) Cam's funny man he's funny I think (01:21:05) there's a little bit of a hindrance in (01:21:07) that one minute a week because it's like (01:21:09) you spend so much time working on that (01:21:11) one minute that maybe you don't spend (01:21:12) enough time tightening up your hour (01:21:15) whatever you have when you're on the (01:21:16) road I was like what you give this (01:21:19) minute out and it goes out to the whole (01:21:21) comedy World M and I that's I was ask (01:21:24) saying are I was like can you still do (01:21:26) those bits like cuz some of these aren't (01:21:29) finished they're just the [ __ ] (01:21:30) beginning of it right right don't let (01:21:33) those go like right build on them as (01:21:35) long as you're building on them as long (01:21:36) as you got more to it and it's better (01:21:38) now I think people want it I think it (01:21:40) also there's this understanding those (01:21:42) guys are on the come up and they're (01:21:43) they're putting it all together and I (01:21:46) think there's a certain amount of times (01:21:48) you do it where you got to eventually (01:21:49) leave I say that but then there's (01:21:51) William Montgomery who does it every (01:21:53) [ __ ] week and Williams got this and (01:21:55) even if his jokes suck it's F because (01:21:58) even because he gets angry he gets angry (01:22:00) at himself he gets angry at the crowd (01:22:02) and then he gets funny bro have you been (01:22:04) seeing Brian Holman lately no no no no (01:22:07) oh my God he's the sweetest guy by the (01:22:09) way shout out Brian man he is so (01:22:11) different than his on stage monster the (01:22:13) on stage Brian Holzman he needs a name (01:22:15) in a different thing it's like there's a (01:22:17) different human that comes out when he's (01:22:18) on stage he would you would think that (01:22:20) he's a complete psychopath in real life (01:22:22) and he's just the kindest sweetest guy (01:22:24) wonderful I love him to death he's all (01:22:27) hugs and joy and smiles and he's always (01:22:30) helping people into a detriment like one (01:22:32) of the things about his shows we've had (01:22:33) to like stop some of the people that he (01:22:36) allows open for him cuz it's people that (01:22:38) haven't done comedy in forever and still (01:22:40) know him like you think I could do a set (01:22:42) sure come on bye and then they eat dick (01:22:45) for 10 minutes and the crowd gets (01:22:46) tortured So Adam had to put the breakes (01:22:49) on that but but he himself is on fire (01:22:53) yeah on Shane and I were crying laughing (01:22:56) watching his set last night I mean (01:22:59) crying laughing Shane's so funny he he (01:23:03) he had the aux cord last night at at (01:23:04) bitsy's and like I didn't know who was (01:23:07) putting on the music because it was just (01:23:08) this like random collection of music and (01:23:10) then uh he then this fetty [ __ ] song (01:23:13) comes on right and I want you to be mine (01:23:18) again baby and I look over at the bar (01:23:20) and I just see him kind of mouthing it I (01:23:22) want you to beat my this [ __ ] (01:23:25) got the (01:23:26) ax Ah that's hilarious he was locked in (01:23:30) bro yeah we all have good Green Room (01:23:32) soundtracks oh yeah yeah we that's a big (01:23:34) thing I don't think anybody would guess (01:23:36) your Green Room music like if they (01:23:38) walked into your green room and they (01:23:40) heard the music playing there's nobody (01:23:42) that would go oh yeah Joe picked this (01:23:44) song yeah maybe nobody it might be one (01:23:46) or two songs that pop up '90s like deep (01:23:49) cut rap yeah like deep like krs1 or (01:23:54) something right right Coogi rap in the (01:23:56) Brand New Heavies yeah I remember the (01:23:59) first time I came down here and it was (01:24:00) like blasting and I was like yo who the (01:24:01) f like I'm looking around like nobody's (01:24:03) old enough to even know cool rap in this (01:24:05) in this green room and I just see you (01:24:07) like popping your getting ready to (01:24:09) [ __ ] go on you just yeah man death (01:24:13) threat with Brand New Heavies is my (01:24:15) favorite before I go on stage song (01:24:18) that's interesting I don't know I don't (01:24:19) know oh man you don't know you don't (01:24:21) know that song no I don't think so oh my (01:24:23) God so the Brand New Heavies and I found (01:24:25) out about this song I teared up when I (01:24:26) was talking about Mitsy earlier still a (01:24:28) little teary what what what were you (01:24:30) thinking oh just just her what was it (01:24:33) just her saying um you know all the (01:24:36) inmates run the Asylum it just makes me (01:24:38) cry why cuz that lady was like all the (01:24:43) [ __ ] that I (01:24:44) do at the club like I learned how to do (01:24:48) it from her yeah like you learn how to (01:24:51) like facilitate comedy like to help (01:24:52) comedy grow I learned it all from her (01:24:54) yeah all of it it's kind of cool how (01:24:56) people exist through us you know like (01:24:59) obviously she's passed but well that's (01:25:01) why the bars name mity yeah but the (01:25:03) effects live on I would have named the (01:25:04) whole club msis if I didn't want to get (01:25:06) sued by the family they would I don't (01:25:08) think they would have sued me but no (01:25:10) they let me actually use the name for (01:25:11) the bar yeah uh but and we have a (01:25:14) picture picture of mity in the bar too (01:25:16) what was your guys relationship like (01:25:19) well I mean she was still Lucid when I (01:25:21) met her you know I met her in '94 and (01:25:24) she was like super (01:25:26) supportive she just like you know she (01:25:30) just knew what to do man like she knew (01:25:32) how to set you up and if she liked you (01:25:34) she would put you on after murderers (01:25:37) yeah I had to follow Martin Lawrence in (01:25:39) the main room for like like [ __ ] (01:25:42) weeks and weeks at a time if Martin (01:25:44) Lawrence was going to headline I was (01:25:45) going to go on after him Martin (01:25:48) Lawrence 94 95 okay so you got to (01:25:51) understand Martin Lawrence people forgot (01:25:54) Martin Lawrence let me tell you right (01:25:55) now go watch you so crazy Martin (01:25:58) Lawrence go watch de Comedy Jam the (01:26:00) greatest host of De Comedy Jam ever his (01:26:02) timing but his performan is when it's (01:26:04) his hour his timing his energy (01:26:08) infectious oh he was so good he was so (01:26:12) good and I used to eat [ __ ] going on (01:26:15) after him every night and mity no matter (01:26:18) who was there Dice Clay Rogan you're on (01:26:19) after dice it's like whoever the [ __ ] it (01:26:21) is I'm going on after him that she just (01:26:23) knew how to throw of the Wolves man she (01:26:26) knew how to like show you that your act (01:26:27) is [ __ ] there's there's a couple (01:26:30) guys like atel did that for me and in (01:26:32) New York like I would close the The Late (01:26:35) Show at the Sellar and a would go up and (01:26:37) then I would go up after him and like (01:26:39) that [ __ ] will turn you into a man it'll (01:26:43) humble you it you just realize when (01:26:45) somebody's operating on like every (01:26:47) single cylinder firing and you get up (01:26:50) after it and you're like oh wow I'm (01:26:51) missing something he has something that (01:26:52) I don't have and I need to find that (01:26:54) [ __ ] when you're going up in like the (01:26:56) cushy spot second or third and you're (01:26:58) killing you think you're the funniest in (01:26:59) the world and then when you follow (01:27:00) somebody that like levels the room and (01:27:02) the whole room is kind of unsure if he's (01:27:04) just like inventing these things in the (01:27:06) moment if these are bits like they just (01:27:08) get caught up in this like tornado of (01:27:10) creativity and you got to follow it in (01:27:12) that [ __ ] following him following Mike (01:27:14) Brit following Greer like following (01:27:17) these guys that are just just like (01:27:19) Masters yeah it just turns you into a (01:27:21) man that's why I started taking Joey on (01:27:23) the road with me cuz I couldn't follow (01:27:24) him really yeah yeah you love hard [ __ ] (01:27:27) you [ __ ] love making your life (01:27:29) difficult it's not even making your life (01:27:31) difficult it's realizing like you're (01:27:32) trying to get you're not as good as (01:27:33) you're ever going to get at this right (01:27:34) you have to get better how do you get (01:27:35) better you have to be challenged how do (01:27:37) you get challenged know that you're (01:27:39) going to follow Joey Diaz every night (01:27:41) three nights in a row two shows on (01:27:42) Friday two shows on Saturday this is (01:27:44) this is I feel like a this is something (01:27:46) that (01:27:48) uh there's a lot of importance to this I (01:27:50) don't know if if comedians are doing (01:27:52) this all the time but like your openers (01:27:54) that you take on the road with you like (01:27:55) they should really be pressing you they (01:27:57) should set the tone of the show and (01:27:59) they're going to set the expectation of (01:28:01) the show I think sometimes people want (01:28:02) to save the day that's weak that's that (01:28:06) same [ __ ] feeling like I hope the (01:28:08) guy after me bombs that's the same (01:28:10) [ __ ] feeling yeah I want the (01:28:12) audience to have a great [ __ ] time so (01:28:14) I want everybody to kill I love when I (01:28:16) get the message like or like tagged and (01:28:18) a post on Instagram and it was like all (01:28:20) three of them were [ __ ] great and (01:28:22) it's like and also like I understand (01:28:24) what it means probably for them cuz I've (01:28:25) been in maybe that situation where (01:28:26) you're like holy [ __ ] like yeah they're (01:28:28) bringing me up with the show and they're (01:28:31) they're in a tougher spot than me you (01:28:32) know Derek going up hosting people are (01:28:34) walking into an arena yep so to kill (01:28:36) that room to like command attention (01:28:38) while people are walking down an aisle (01:28:40) and Derek's a perfect guy for something (01:28:42) like that he's got so much energy and (01:28:44) he's so good at [ __ ] around he's so (01:28:46) good creating an energy of fun and Mark (01:28:49) 2 is just [ __ ] like crushing and like (01:28:51) seeing them go up there and like really (01:28:54) lay in like hearing it before I go up (01:28:57) like that's that's the fun thing like (01:28:58) I'll be locked in my room but then when (01:29:00) I come out like a few minutes before (01:29:01) just hearing them light up yeah yeah you (01:29:04) got to take strong eyes man yeah and (01:29:06) it's the people have the weird fear of (01:29:09) being eclipsed that's the thing it's (01:29:11) fear of being eclipsed while you're (01:29:13) opening act but you'll get better get (01:29:15) better you're better like you're (01:29:16) headlining like you're clearly good at (01:29:18) this and it's going to make you better (01:29:20) when these guys bust your [ __ ] ass (01:29:22) sometimes yeah maybe you're not working (01:29:23) as hard as you should be working maybe (01:29:25) you're not at your best and nothing will (01:29:27) make you work hard than being (01:29:28) embarrassed right also I don't know how (01:29:31) you operate but for me I'm funnier if (01:29:34) I'm having fun so if I'm hanging out (01:29:36) with you know Ari and Duncan and Joey (01:29:40) and we're all doing a show together we (01:29:41) are laughing our [ __ ] ass off and (01:29:44) that comes out on stage and you're loose (01:29:45) and you're ready to get Goofy and I'm (01:29:47) laughing at Joey before I even go on (01:29:48) stage I'm sitting there laughing at his (01:29:50) act before I get up there so I go up (01:29:52) there I'm already in a great [ __ ] (01:29:53) mood and the audience feels like they (01:29:56) didn't get robbed you know you didn't (01:29:58) like throw some scrub up there for 20 (01:30:00) minutes just to fill time so you could (01:30:02) look like a superhero that's yeah it's (01:30:04) like they're paying money man I I keep (01:30:06) thinking about that like all these (01:30:07) people that come out to a show it's not (01:30:09) just the ticket price right it's the (01:30:11) babysitter it's everything it's the Uber (01:30:13) it's the dinner like this is an (01:30:15) expensive [ __ ] night for them and (01:30:16) they're looking forward to it you might (01:30:17) only get one date night a week (01:30:19) especially if you have family you bro I (01:30:21) was in uh I was in not Seattle like uh (01:30:24) what's the other one in Washington it's (01:30:26) not Tacoma something more Inland forget (01:30:29) there's a comedy club out there Spokane (01:30:32) Spokane this was years ago and I did a (01:30:35) show and like a couple came up (01:30:36) afterwards and they were like uh this is (01:30:38) our first night out in eight years whoa (01:30:43) and I think about that every single time (01:30:46) before I go on stage that's a good thing (01:30:48) to think about that's a good thing to (01:30:49) think about yeah like those people that (01:30:51) are like really but you don't take (01:30:53) things for granted anyway you know some (01:30:55) some people get a little sloppy you get (01:30:58) a little loose and you take things for (01:30:59) granted I no man we were talking about (01:31:02) that on stage the or in the green room (01:31:04) the other night Woody was backstage like (01:31:05) you guys get nervous I'm like I get (01:31:07) nervous for every show if I don't get (01:31:08) nervous I don't do as good I get nervous (01:31:11) I get nervous for everything important (01:31:13) yeah and every Show's important yeah (01:31:15) like it's not important like my life (01:31:16) depends on it but it's important like (01:31:17) it's important to me it's important to (01:31:19) the audience like I want to do it right (01:31:21) so I want to figure out what I'm working (01:31:23) on I want to sit I'm like I got to be (01:31:25) loose with this cuz this is this thing (01:31:27) is still in development so let's [ __ ] (01:31:29) around with that a little bit but we're (01:31:30) going to bring it back with this and I'm (01:31:31) going over my phone when I'm sitting (01:31:33) back there before I go up there I'm (01:31:34) ready yeah you care if you don't do that (01:31:36) I don't think you ever you achieve what (01:31:38) you're trying to achieve yeah I feel (01:31:40) like sometimes uh people like I don't (01:31:42) know if they pretend to not care or (01:31:43) maybe like they think not caring is cool (01:31:45) that's what it is caring caring is cool (01:31:48) like I I I really care I work really (01:31:49) hard and I I think that you should work (01:31:52) really hard I want to make really great (01:31:53) stuff I'm proud of and I don't want to (01:31:55) just be like oh it's [ __ ] gay to care (01:31:57) it's like no it's not gay to care it's (01:31:58) gay it's not gay to like have people (01:32:00) come out and spend a lot of money and (01:32:01) then you just [ __ ] flop on stage and (01:32:03) don't give a [ __ ] right it's care to (01:32:04) like it's cool to like try to give them (01:32:06) the best possible show yeah you know (01:32:09) that's cool yeah that's cool yeah it's (01:32:11) just is a thing because you do care so (01:32:13) you try to pretend you don't because the (01:32:14) cooler people don't care the co cooler (01:32:17) people just bomb I remember I watched (01:32:18) Bill Hicks bomb once and I was so (01:32:20) goddamn impressed I was so I was so imp (01:32:23) first of all he was very funny but the (01:32:26) stuff that he was talking about was so (01:32:27) out there he went on there was this (01:32:29) comedian very nice guy um who went on (01:32:33) before Bill Hicks yeah uh his his thing (01:32:36) was uh comic on a Harley that was his (01:32:39) name like his thing I forget Larry (01:32:41) something comic on Harley Nice Guy funny (01:32:44) guy but he did like a lot of stuff about (01:32:46) Like Bugs Bunny smoking weed like real (01:32:48) simple stuff like but it like made (01:32:50) people laugh cops and donuts like like (01:32:52) cliche [ __ ] but good (01:32:55) and killed and like just good enough for (01:32:57) this blue collar crowd atck comedy stop (01:33:00) and then Bill Hicks goes on stage and uh (01:33:03) he's smoking a cigarette and he's uh (01:33:05) talking about uh I came here to uh fill (01:33:10) you up with ideas you couldn't possibly (01:33:13) imagine on your (01:33:17) own and then how did the Boston crowd (01:33:20) take that oh they didn't take it good at (01:33:22) all he he didn't just bomb he cleared (01:33:24) the room and he was doing this bit where (01:33:27) uh Satan has sex with uh John Davidson (01:33:32) who is the host of that's incredible (01:33:34) like Satan is uh [ __ ] John Davidson (01:33:38) and then um impregnates him and then he (01:33:42) shits out I forget who he shits out like (01:33:44) different people at different time but (01:33:46) he's like he's sitting on a toilet on (01:33:49) stage pretending he's sitting on a (01:33:50) toilet grunting like and then he looks (01:33:53) up in the middle people are getting up (01:33:54) and Dron go n this generally clears the (01:33:58) room like gets right back to it but I (01:34:01) mean never lost his timing never lost (01:34:05) his composure and it wasn't that it (01:34:07) wasn't funny it was me and Fitz Simmons (01:34:09) were in the back of the room me and Fitz (01:34:11) s was where you knew Greg from back in (01:34:12) Boston Greg and I started a week apart (01:34:14) from each other get out of here we've (01:34:16) been friends since we were like I was 21 (01:34:18) I think he was 22 or 23 yeah yeah we've (01:34:21) been friends from the very very (01:34:22) beginning yeah wow um (01:34:24) so Greg and I were both open micers at (01:34:27) the time and we just knew that hicks was (01:34:29) coming we wanted to watch and we sat in (01:34:31) the back of the room we were [ __ ] (01:34:33) crying crying laughing so there was like (01:34:36) 50 people left 10 comics 40 Savages who (01:34:40) just thought this guy was genius and (01:34:42) then the other 200 plus people they all (01:34:44) left they all left wow 200 is crazy to (01:34:47) leave bro it was a it was a blood bath (01:34:50) like half the crowd more than half the (01:34:52) crowd left yeah no it was like three qu (01:34:54) of the crowd probably that's a large (01:34:56) percentage it was a large percentage (01:34:58) there wasn't much left but Fitz Simmons (01:34:59) and I fondly talk about that day like he (01:35:01) never lost his cool he almost (01:35:03) like he I don't know when he knew he had (01:35:07) pancreatic cancer cuz he died a few (01:35:09) years later but he kind of seemed like a (01:35:12) guy that whatever the fear of bombing (01:35:16) and whatever this thing of failure that (01:35:19) wasn't on his mind it didn't bother him (01:35:22) I was like when you have limited time (01:35:23) that's not wonder if that's what it was (01:35:25) I don't know if he knew already but he (01:35:28) was so calm up there yeah you know but (01:35:32) funny very funny but just he changed the (01:35:35) way people wanted to do comedy cuz (01:35:37) everybody after that wanted to be (01:35:39) profound yes nobody wanted to be (01:35:40) profound before that they just wanted to (01:35:42) get big laughs yeah then all a sudden (01:35:44) everybody wanted to be profound yeah you (01:35:46) know it was interesting like he became (01:35:48) like this poet yeah you know you see (01:35:51) trends like that pop up stylistically (01:35:53) people are so influential that like it (01:35:55) changes the way people do their comedy (01:35:58) and It's tricky because like you can (01:36:01) only be great at the thing you do that's (01:36:04) how I feel at least about it like yeah (01:36:06) if you are profound and then profound (01:36:08) comedy is popular then you will be (01:36:09) really good at it but if you're a silly (01:36:11) goose right it's not worth trying to be (01:36:14) profound right right right because you (01:36:16) being silly is going to be the best (01:36:18) version of you and the people will (01:36:20) appreciate that the most also you can't (01:36:22) trick people they know even even if (01:36:24) they're not aware of it they know they (01:36:25) know something's off yeah something's (01:36:27) off that's the the honesty in it yeah (01:36:30) there's brutal honesty in it like we (01:36:33) could and sometimes they'll even laugh (01:36:34) but they know that you're (01:36:36) lying yeah yeah yeah yeah you know like (01:36:38) they know that it's not real and like it (01:36:40) exists for maybe 10 15 minutes but like (01:36:42) I think it kind of gets exposed once you (01:36:44) get into those hourong sets M it can for (01:36:47) sure you got to be you got to be who you (01:36:49) are right yeah and it has to has to gel (01:36:53) together with you (01:36:54) you have to be into what you're doing if (01:36:56) you're not into what you're doing you (01:36:57) can't say the same words with the same (01:36:59) inflection without the same mindset like (01:37:02) if your mindset is off they [ __ ] know (01:37:04) man it doesn't matter what your timing (01:37:06) is they know they know you're not locked (01:37:09) in so they're not locked in like how (01:37:10) come you didn't bring me in you know (01:37:12) yeah like when someone's K like last (01:37:13) night when hone was killing and me and (01:37:15) Shane were laughing we were locked into (01:37:17) whatever this psychopath was talking (01:37:19) about he's talking about drowning people (01:37:21) I like like he's so out of his [ __ ] (01:37:24) mind it was so funny yeah it was so (01:37:27) funny but you give them that you let (01:37:29) them take your mind for a ride if it's (01:37:31) real to them I me that's the thing about (01:37:32) Joey that I've I've always admired is (01:37:35) like it's it's pure it's authentic like (01:37:37) you can kind of get away with whatever (01:37:39) you want if it's pure yeah and uh when (01:37:42) we know you're faking and and you're (01:37:45) doing something that makes me feel (01:37:46) uncomfortable now I'm double (01:37:47) uncomfortable right I can be (01:37:49) uncomfortable if it's real to you yeah (01:37:51) like I can I can sustain that like you (01:37:53) might be talking about some [ __ ] that (01:37:54) makes me feel a little weird but it's (01:37:55) real to you so I go okay I'm going to (01:37:57) rock with you on this this is this is a (01:37:59) pure version of of your art but yeah you (01:38:02) don't want to lie to people man yeah (01:38:05) also if you do it then you're stuck now (01:38:08) that's how you do art you lie to people (01:38:10) so you're always trying to like concoct (01:38:12) some (01:38:13) new [ __ ] weird version of (01:38:18) yourself what's what's what's what's (01:38:20) going to sell more you're a pop music (01:38:22) star now what you yeah yeah like what do (01:38:25) you that's what you're like you like (01:38:26) doing pop music comedy but there are (01:38:28) yeah there are people that like get (01:38:29) attached to what works and then they (01:38:32) can't run away they're like scared to (01:38:33) run away with and I kind of have empathy (01:38:34) for it because it's like you probably (01:38:35) struggle for so long you find something (01:38:37) that works and you're like okay finally (01:38:39) I'm able to make some money finally I'm (01:38:40) able to have some security but you you (01:38:44) got to keep growing past it you know I (01:38:45) think generally those people are (01:38:46) self-obsessed too um in a bad way where (01:38:49) they thinking about themselves and (01:38:51) success rather than the thing they're (01:38:53) doing like what is the thing I'm doing (01:38:55) the thing I'm doing is I'm trying to (01:38:56) create something that's good that works (01:38:58) I'm trying to make it the best version (01:39:00) of whatever [ __ ] it is so how do I do (01:39:02) that you can't be thinking about (01:39:03) yourself and do that that's why thieves (01:39:06) can't write yeah because the the M (01:39:08) mentality being a thief is I want that (01:39:10) idea for myself it's not like how I want (01:39:13) to create you're not addictive to (01:39:14) creating which is like the coolest part (01:39:17) about this we get to create whatever the (01:39:18) [ __ ] we want and if you get to a point (01:39:21) like luckily where you get a couple (01:39:23) bucks in the bank (01:39:24) those Creations should be even more (01:39:26) specific to you yeah right because (01:39:28) you're not doing it so you can buy (01:39:30) another house right like you're doing it (01:39:31) because you truly spent 20 years of your (01:39:33) life trying to get good at something and (01:39:35) then you can create whatever the [ __ ] (01:39:37) you want and also those those new things (01:39:39) those new things that pop out they feel (01:39:42) like gifts from the universe like a new (01:39:44) bit that's a banger it's like where did (01:39:46) this come from this came from the (01:39:47) universe that [ __ ] exists before you (01:39:49) that's why I always try to say like (01:39:50) comedy is there and then we find it you (01:39:53) got to find not you're not making it and (01:39:55) when you're making it it it feels too (01:39:57) contrived but the comedy exists bro I (01:39:59) got to pee so bad let let's pause pause (01:40:01) real quick we right back and pee are we (01:40:03) back in yeah we're back dog we're back (01:40:06) yeah comedy's great comedy's the best (01:40:10) job on Earth for us for us you know I (01:40:13) was trying to talk Woody into doing it (01:40:14) last night I mean cuz he was thinking (01:40:16) about it because apparently he had I (01:40:18) said I will 100% help you he goes would (01:40:20) you really I go 100% I go if you want to (01:40:22) do comedy I'll get you time I'll I'll (01:40:25) work with you on material I'll get guys (01:40:27) to help you I'll work with you look this (01:40:30) you could totally do it if you could do (01:40:32) that monologue on SNL you could do stand (01:40:34) up yeah you could do stand up brave for (01:40:35) that monologue yeah Brave guy yeah CU he (01:40:38) has a lot to (01:40:41) lose perception wise like maybe he (01:40:43) doesn't care but that's where like (01:40:44) bravery comes in like when you got (01:40:46) nothing to lose it's like yeah you can (01:40:47) kind of say whatever the [ __ ] you want (01:40:48) doesn't really matter he's kind of (01:40:49) grandfathered in oh really he's Woody (01:40:52) harelson but you don't think it could (01:40:53) affect at all like it could but I don't (01:40:55) think anymore I think the world's kind (01:40:57) of woken up the the fact that first of (01:40:59) all he's accurate like you really can't (01:41:01) attack what he's saying yeah you know so (01:41:04) like you you don't think he should be (01:41:06) saying it okay well that's kind of (01:41:07) debatable and that's on you I I think he (01:41:10) can say whatever the [ __ ] he wants in (01:41:12) that regard you know yeah cuz it's like (01:41:14) at this point it's like who who doesn't (01:41:17) think he's accurate yeah like you're in (01:41:19) denial if you don't think he's accurate (01:41:21) this is a problem the Democrats have (01:41:22) right now what's that is that the Trump (01:41:25) Administration what they're uncovering (01:41:27) with Doge like all this waste and Fraud (01:41:30) and Abuse whatever whatever you want to (01:41:32) categorize it as and I'm sure there's a (01:41:33) bunch of things that fall into different (01:41:34) categories yeah but um the the Democrats (01:41:38) aren't acknowledging that it's a problem (01:41:39) at all they're not saying when you find (01:41:41) this building in San Antonio that they (01:41:42) spent $2 billion on it it's completely (01:41:44) empty and it's getting you know a (01:41:46) million dollars a month or whatever the (01:41:48) [ __ ] it's getting and where's that money (01:41:49) going yeah the tricky thing about this (01:41:52) um the do thing is (01:41:55) like like there I don't think there's (01:41:57) any American out there that is (01:41:59) supportive of waste fraud and Corruption (01:42:03) it should be a bipartisan issue right (01:42:06) right like it's a very easy thing to get (01:42:08) on board with right and this is where I (01:42:10) feel (01:42:11) like I feel like elon's being a little (01:42:13) antagonistic I have a lot of respect for (01:42:15) Elon don't get me wrong but like it's (01:42:17) becoming easier to be a bipartisan issue (01:42:20) in the way that it's communicated (01:42:22) whereas like having that like political (01:42:25) decorum like having that ability to pull (01:42:28) everybody into this thing might be a (01:42:30) little bit more effective on an issue (01:42:32) that we can all get behind there is no (01:42:34) American that wants waste fraud and (01:42:35) Corruption I hate that this is becoming (01:42:37) bipartisan it it drives me [ __ ] crazy (01:42:40) because on the surface nobody wants the (01:42:42) waste right like both democrats should (01:42:45) be this shouldn't be they shouldn't be (01:42:47) booing or whatever the [ __ ] was (01:42:48) happening at that like uh hearing last (01:42:50) not even hearing he was like addressing (01:42:51) the Senate this shouldn't should be (01:42:54) everybody going hey we agree this is (01:42:57) [ __ ] up this is happening in some of (01:42:59) our um regions or whatever it is like (01:43:02) where you're responsible for those (01:43:03) constituents what's that called your if (01:43:05) you're a congressman your your District (01:43:08) we need to be better about this we need (01:43:09) to fix this we got to take this on the (01:43:11) chin and we agree and it could be this (01:43:13) great revolution in America that could (01:43:15) really support everybody and it's become (01:43:17) this [ __ ] bipartisan issue and I (01:43:19) understand there's like a lot of (01:43:20) currency in like making the opposition (01:43:22) look radioactive I get that but this is (01:43:25) where you wish that there was like this (01:43:28) uh some sort of masterful communication (01:43:30) version of this instead of a little bit (01:43:32) more of like this like putting the knife (01:43:34) in and twisting a little yeah no I agree (01:43:36) I agree on both sides I think (01:43:39) um the people are really foolish (01:43:42) spending all their time just attacking (01:43:44) the ideas of the other party instead of (01:43:46) promoting really good ideas of your own (01:43:48) amen and um the thing about this whole (01:43:51) Doge thing is it's such a lightning rod (01:43:53) and one of the reason why it's such a (01:43:54) lightning rod is because these (01:43:55) politicians are being pressured to try (01:43:58) to keep a lot of the spending because a (01:44:00) lot of the spending is it's all (01:44:02) Shenanigans it's moving around thousands (01:44:05) of different Nos and you're talking (01:44:08) about billions and billions and billions (01:44:10) of dollars that were going somewhere so (01:44:12) people were profiting people were people (01:44:14) had jobs and they want to keep all those (01:44:16) jobs they want to keep that money (01:44:17) flowing in even the [ __ ] money as (01:44:19) much as they can so there's [ __ ] (01:44:20) court orders and there's lawsuits and (01:44:22) there's Supreme Court just uh stopped a (01:44:24) $1.9 billion freeze on something or (01:44:28) something that just came up it was today (01:44:30) so there's like legal battles about all (01:44:32) this stuff um you're you're going to (01:44:35) have a lot of confusion in that regard (01:44:38) but I think it's important one of the (01:44:40) things they're doing is they're (01:44:41) highlighting the ridiculous things like (01:44:43) they're highlighting the $250 million on (01:44:46) a transgender animal studies 4.7 (01:44:49) trillion that they can't account for the (01:44:51) way that he was saying it did you watch (01:44:53) it I mean is hilarious oh you got to (01:44:55) watch him talk about it it's I'm I'm (01:44:57) sure it's amazing and I will I will (01:44:59) watch I just didn't have I was busy last (01:45:00) night but it's like there's there's also (01:45:04) a way to um to really clearly Express to (01:45:09) people that there's legitimate use for (01:45:12) Aid and that this isn't really us Aid (01:45:14) it's u United States agency for (01:45:16) International Development if you're (01:45:18) worried about foreign aid I fully (01:45:21) completely agree we should spend money (01:45:23) in third world countries building Wells (01:45:25) we should spend money trying to get food (01:45:27) to to poor people and that's not what (01:45:29) this program is that's not what this is (01:45:30) about and if it's about like exercis (01:45:33) care for people and and providing free (01:45:35) clinics for people in impoverished areas (01:45:37) yeah we should spend on that but also (01:45:40) that's not where this money's going a (01:45:41) lot of this is regime overthrowing money (01:45:44) this is regime change money a lot of (01:45:46) this is like money that's being propped (01:45:48) up they're sending money to the Taliban (01:45:50) every [ __ ] week like this is crazy (01:45:52) like you have to understand what really (01:45:53) is so what we have to do I think as (01:45:56) Americans is look you got a president (01:46:00) he's your president whether you like it (01:46:01) or not as your president for four years (01:46:03) let's hope he does a great job yeah (01:46:05) wouldn't you want him to do the great (01:46:06) job he's the captain of the ship I don't (01:46:07) want to hit the Rocks let's hope he gets (01:46:09) us into a beautiful Harbor absolutely so (01:46:12) together that doesn't mean the Democrats (01:46:14) can't win in four years but you can't (01:46:16) win doing this you can't win all saying (01:46:19) this [ __ ] ain't right and then all of (01:46:20) you say the exact same thing well now I (01:46:22) know who's on the take now I know who's (01:46:25) got the script now I know who doesn't (01:46:27) have a [ __ ] mind of their own you (01:46:28) have to read the script that whatever (01:46:30) corporate daddy filed onto your desk (01:46:33) it's Think Tank politics they need a (01:46:35) real leader and those real leaders are (01:46:38) all [ __ ] hounds and they're all going (01:46:39) to that's a (01:46:43) problem they all got (01:46:45) skeletons yeah it's got to come from (01:46:47) outside yeah I wonder like or they got (01:46:49) to be a guy like Trump who could take (01:46:51) the hits that's and and and keep on (01:46:53) trucking you need to have like a very (01:46:55) strong Constitution to do that I don't (01:46:57) understand his Constitution what do you (01:46:58) mean you go through the same [ __ ] yeah (01:46:59) but his is beyond they shot him dude (01:47:02) yeah they haven't shot you yet not only (01:47:03) do they shoot (01:47:04) him yet not only perform inside that's (01:47:08) the problem part of the problem yeah but (01:47:10) not only did they shoot him but um (01:47:13) people forgot about it in two weeks yeah (01:47:15) and to this day moving right along he (01:47:17) didn't get shot enough to this like (01:47:19) people were talking about his ear (01:47:20) they're like oh but it doesn't look that (01:47:22) shot and it's like there's so many (01:47:24) people that think that he rigged it that (01:47:25) he did it on purpose that he staged it (01:47:28) yeah he staged a bullet coming nicking (01:47:30) his ear like they don't understand (01:47:33) accuracy come on especially with iron (01:47:35) sights you know he didn't even have a (01:47:36) scope on the rifle so iron do you know (01:47:39) what iron sights are okay so like say if (01:47:42) you have a pistol and the back of the (01:47:43) pistol where the handle is there's these (01:47:46) oh the little thing that you're supposed (01:47:47) to look through and then there's a (01:47:47) little post at the front and you line (01:47:49) the two of them up like that yeah and (01:47:52) he's shooting 140 yards with iron sights (01:47:54) like you can't just Nick someone's ear (01:47:57) you'll hit their [ __ ] head you'll (01:47:59) blow their brains out accidentally how (01:48:01) much you have to account for Gravity at (01:48:02) that distance you don't you don't that's (01:48:04) really short that's a short distance (01:48:06) that's why you can like put the post on (01:48:08) it if you wanted to go long distance (01:48:10) then you would want a scope you want a (01:48:11) high-powered scope and you would also (01:48:13) use ballistic software so ballistic (01:48:16) software is like you would apply like (01:48:19) there there's like a watch that has it (01:48:20) built in actually the Garmin tactics X (01:48:24) tactics 8 rather um so you um you would (01:48:27) take this ballistic software you (01:48:29) calculate the distance so there's a you (01:48:32) would use a rangefinder the ra which he (01:48:34) had by the way he had a [ __ ] he was (01:48:36) walking around with a rangefinder before (01:48:37) the they saw him with a rangefinder they (01:48:40) didn't even arrest him somebody let him (01:48:41) on that roof they [ __ ] gave him that (01:48:43) gun that's what I think um the (01:48:44) rangefinder would say oh 500 yards so (01:48:47) then you would set your sight for 500 (01:48:51) yards and then it adjust accordingly (01:48:52) when you're right so your your your your (01:48:56) um your application with some Scopes you (01:48:59) can actually sync up your scope with (01:49:02) your app so it'll put the reticle it'll (01:49:04) put the crosshairs exactly where you (01:49:06) need to aim for the bullet to drop (01:49:09) exactly exactly that makes sense so the (01:49:12) reticle does the the X would move up and (01:49:15) down accordingly yeah exactly but at (01:49:17) that distance you're saying that there (01:49:18) isn't too much no there's no and he's (01:49:19) also elevated it's a straight shot it's (01:49:21) a pretty fair I mean maybe a very slight (01:49:23) drop because it's only like a (01:49:25) millisecond before it hits him it's a (01:49:28) very slight drop at that but when you (01:49:29) get to like significant distances like (01:49:31) 400 yards 500 yards it it's a factor (01:49:35) yeah like you hold high like say if you (01:49:38) have so if you're zeroed say if I'm (01:49:40) shooting a deer and my rifle's zeroed at (01:49:43) 100 yards that means at 100 yards it (01:49:45) shoots exactly where that crosshairs is (01:49:47) but but the deer's 300 yards I'll hold (01:49:50) it the top of his back because you know (01:49:52) that's going to come down it's going to (01:49:53) drop this is with bows or this is with a (01:49:55) rifle and then with bows I imagine it's (01:49:57) even more with bows it's you have to be (01:50:00) very very sure because there's so much (01:50:03) drop there's so much drop yeah there's (01:50:05) so much drop like I have um um a (01:50:09) rangefinder that's not just a (01:50:10) rangefinder it's called a full draw it's (01:50:12) a loople full draw five and what it does (01:50:15) is it doesn't just put the reticle and (01:50:17) tell me the exact distance say I'm not (01:50:19) aiming with this this is just giving me (01:50:21) the distance but it also shows being a (01:50:23) line where the peak of the arrow height (01:50:26) is because the arrow arcs right so what (01:50:30) I'm doing is I'm shooting through trees (01:50:32) sometimes like I'm trying to shoot an (01:50:34) animal and I'm shooting through a gap in (01:50:36) the trees so you have to make sure that (01:50:38) on the drop it passes through that Gap (01:50:40) in the tree exactly exactly exactly like (01:50:45) you like there's a video of me hunting (01:50:47) with Cam we were hunting in Utah um and (01:50:51) uh it was for Under Armour back when he (01:50:52) was with Under Armour and I had to shoot (01:50:55) this elk through trees I th shot it (01:50:58) through like it's a video you can see (01:51:00) the arrow (01:51:02) go right through this it's one probably (01:51:04) the most beautiful shots I've ever made (01:51:06) and I made it on camera because I was (01:51:08) kind of freaking out I got have a hunt (01:51:09) on camera like hunting is a big thing (01:51:11) for a celebrity to be doing your hunting (01:51:13) but you're also going to hunt on camera (01:51:15) and you're going to hunt on camera with (01:51:16) a bow and arrow so I was like super (01:51:18) locked in and it was just it was perfect (01:51:21) it was just magical how that Arrow went (01:51:23) right through this Gap yeah just thread (01:51:25) the needle and right in the heart it was (01:51:28) perfect it was perfect shot like exactly (01:51:30) where you run right behind the shoulder (01:51:32) right up here it was like double lungs (01:51:34) in the top of the heart wo (01:51:37) [ __ ] and then you got to carry that (01:51:39) [ __ ] yeah well you got to chop it up (01:51:41) first you're not carrying it that's the (01:51:42) thing that's the thing that like I never (01:51:44) accounted for I was watching I don't (01:51:46) know if it was some video you posted or (01:51:47) maybe it was cam but like I always (01:51:49) thought about the hunting part like okay (01:51:51) let's find it let's track it let's shoot (01:51:53) it but I never thought about getting (01:51:55) home with all the meat oh yeah man that (01:51:58) seems so it's very hard and what what we (01:52:02) do is way easier than what some guys do (01:52:06) some guys do public land solo backpack (01:52:11) elk hunting so they're throwing the [ __ ] (01:52:13) in the backpack they have a pack so (01:52:15) they'll take like a pack like uh great (01:52:18) pack is like EXO Mountain gear a great (01:52:20) company that makes packs and they have (01:52:22) different frame (01:52:23) based on your height it's all made to so (01:52:25) you can carry a lot of weight on your (01:52:27) body a lot of it sits on your hips and (01:52:30) it's all like oh dises the weight so (01:52:32) you're not just genly if you pull up (01:52:34) like EXO Mountain gear uh backpacks like (01:52:38) they have specific packs that are (01:52:40) designed so you can carry 100 lounds on (01:52:42) your back right like as comfortably as (01:52:44) you can but it's [ __ ] brutal so these (01:52:48) guys might hike in I'm not no [ __ ] (01:52:53) so so that's what it looks like so see (01:52:54) all these packs so get the picture of (01:52:57) those guys when they have it on their (01:52:58) back Jamie the one above that yeah that (01:52:59) one right there so that's what it would (01:53:01) look like for two dudes who are carrying (01:53:03) their whole camp on their back so they (01:53:05) probably have their tent in there they (01:53:07) have their sleeping bag in there they (01:53:09) have food in there for a week like you (01:53:12) you got freeze-dried food generally (01:53:13) speaking guys bring like Mount like (01:53:16) there's a bunch of different meals like (01:53:17) Mountain Ops not not Mountain Ops like (01:53:20) there's a bunch of different companies (01:53:21) so like this is a guy like in an L (01:53:23) quarter on his back that [ __ ] (01:53:25) probably has 100 lb on his back right (01:53:27) now because he has his bag and his pack (01:53:29) which is probably 50 lb and then he has (01:53:31) a giant ass elk leg on his back all (01:53:33) right so is there ever like a distance (01:53:35) that they deem too far because walking (01:53:38) back with the elk it wouldn't be worth (01:53:40) it so like I imagine you're tracking for (01:53:42) a while it's not like you just walk in (01:53:43) and there are all the Elks right you (01:53:45) have to find them yeah well you can get (01:53:47) lucky and find him a couple of miles in (01:53:48) and that's that's pretty nice but is (01:53:50) there a point where you go I'm not going (01:53:51) more than five because five back (01:53:53) carrying the elk would be tooo difficult (01:53:54) yeah some guys do that but some guys are (01:53:56) hard [ __ ] core like they'll kill an (01:53:58) elk 25 miles in and spend three days (01:54:01) bringing it back so and now you have elk (01:54:04) carcass mhm you have all the other (01:54:07) animals that (01:54:08) also he string it up in a tree got it so (01:54:11) getting it it's like oh what is that old (01:54:12) man in the sea is that the book where (01:54:14) like he he gets the he finally hunts and (01:54:17) gets this big F but fish but he's got to (01:54:19) bring it back and by the time he brings (01:54:20) it back it's just like a skeleton nobody (01:54:22) believes he got the amazing big fish but (01:54:24) like I can't like you don't ever think (01:54:26) about the journey back yeah that seems (01:54:28) almost more stressful well the the right (01:54:31) the best way to do it the back country (01:54:33) if you have the money is horses they (01:54:36) they they have horses take you back (01:54:38) there and the the horses will pack or (01:54:40) mules yeah so you can pack them up with (01:54:42) they yeah they they'll keep your camp on (01:54:44) their back right and you you'll have (01:54:46) like several like a train of them and (01:54:48) then you could load them up with like El (01:54:49) quarters and and then take them back and (01:54:51) for them it ain't [ __ ] it's thousands of (01:54:53) pounds right like well it's not really (01:54:55) how much is the elk it's about 400 lb of (01:54:59) meat oh cuz you're leaving the bones and (01:55:01) everything you skin it you cut it up and (01:55:03) then yeah but you got to take some of (01:55:05) the bones like you want a rib right like (01:55:07) there's if you could have the ribs most (01:55:08) guys like most guys cut the rib meat out (01:55:11) out of the ribs and you grind it make (01:55:13) hamburger or you know chili out of it or (01:55:16) things like that yeah yeah yeah cam he (01:55:19) he like makes strips and then chops (01:55:21) those strips up like you can there's a (01:55:23) lot of different things you could do (01:55:24) with uh with rib meat it's pretty tender (01:55:27) it's good it's real good when you cook (01:55:29) them like slow over a fire though it's (01:55:31) it's it's not the most tender meat like (01:55:34) when slow over a when you cook them over (01:55:36) a fire it can get pretty tough unless (01:55:38) you do it like real low and slow like (01:55:40) smoking it almost like they do barbecue (01:55:43) yeah but um it makes great hamburger but (01:55:46) like the real the the the the what (01:55:49) everybody really loves is like the back (01:55:51) strap that's that that's like (01:55:53) essentially that' be like the fet The (01:55:55) Tender Loin and and then the quarters (01:55:58) you make great stakes and you can make (01:56:00) what are these guys do when they age out (01:56:02) of this like what yeah you try not to (01:56:06) keep working out but like like an NBA (01:56:09) player eventually reaches the end of his (01:56:11) professional playing ability he might (01:56:12) play in a gym but like what what does a (01:56:15) cam do at like 75 well he he'll still be (01:56:17) bow hunting at 75 hunt a different thing (01:56:20) no no he'll be doing the same thing (01:56:22) physical limitations I imagine there are (01:56:25) but not as much anymore not not with (01:56:27) like hormone replacement and (01:56:30) weightlifting it you you know like guys (01:56:33) like me didn't exist 30 years ago like (01:56:36) 57y old Jack dudes yeah they didn't (01:56:39) exist yeah by the time you get 57 all (01:56:42) that shit's gone yeah and all that [ __ ] (01:56:44) goes (01:56:45) away I still have 30-year-old arms (01:56:49) they're still (01:56:50) legit they were they work real good (01:56:54) everything works real good but you have (01:56:56) to you know maintain yourself take care (01:56:58) of yourself and if there's something (01:56:59) like that that you care about you know (01:57:01) like I have a friend uh Brendan Burns he (01:57:04) runs kuyu it's like a huge um Outdoor (01:57:06) Clothing company he's a hardcore bow (01:57:09) hunter one of the best bow hunters in (01:57:10) the world was a big-time College (01:57:11) wrestler like a great athlete won't even (01:57:15) try jiujitsu because he's the want to (01:57:16) hurt himself for hunting like hunting is (01:57:18) so important him he's like I'm not (01:57:20) skiing I'm not [ __ ] around [ __ ] that (01:57:22) I feel like that's my whole workout (01:57:24) regimen is just so I could play this (01:57:25) sport called paddle it's not pickle ball (01:57:28) it's called paddle what is this what is (01:57:30) this it's a racket sport that I'm (01:57:31) absolutely obsessed with I swear to God (01:57:33) it started in aapco Mexico and then it (01:57:35) goes to Spain and it gets blown blown up (01:57:37) there and it's essentially like squash (01:57:39) and Tennis mixed together so there's (01:57:42) there's there's walls there's like this (01:57:43) glass wall on the back and these like (01:57:45) fences on the side have you heard of (01:57:46) this Jamie yeah I played with them yeah (01:57:48) we played I dragged him out bro it is it (01:57:50) is the most obsessed it's the fastest (01:57:53) growing sport in the world right now it (01:57:54) will take over 10 are you a spokesperson (01:57:56) for paddle is I probably am the only (01:57:58) person that is talking about at this (01:58:00) level this is me yeah this is this is (01:58:02) shout out paddle house in New York they (01:58:04) got one in Williamsburg and one in (01:58:05) Brooklyn amazing this is the game this (01:58:07) is the G I'm so bad believable so you (01:58:09) play with a deflated tennis ball so what (01:58:12) essentially what it is you got to show (01:58:14) highlights cuz I I'm so [ __ ] horrible (01:58:15) that it's not going to do it justice but (01:58:17) the the idea behind it is at least for (01:58:19) me is there's always hope so the ball (01:58:23) gets past you in tennis you're cooked (01:58:24) the ball gets past you in paddle it (01:58:26) bounces off that back wall and you're (01:58:27) playing it off the back wall so you're (01:58:29) never fully out of the game oh and (01:58:32) you're constantly it's my it is the only (01:58:35) thing outside of like surfing and boxing (01:58:38) and then comedy where I'm not look at (01:58:40) this what it is that guy went out the (01:58:43) door oh you're allowed to leave and go (01:58:45) get it yeah I mean it's just dude I was (01:58:48) down in Miami there's a thing called The (01:58:49) Reserve cup shout out Reserve how I not (01:58:51) know about this this is the I'm telling (01:58:53) you this will extend my life by God (01:58:55) bless 10 20 years really also you got to (01:58:57) watch the chicks play because they don't (01:58:59) have the power to smack it out so it's (01:59:00) just pure skill (01:59:03) and and cleverness yeah exactly (01:59:06) everything is placement it's delicate (01:59:08) placement so what they're trying to do (01:59:10) is I'm telling you it's unbelievable and (01:59:12) everybody that's playing tennis and (01:59:13) squashing all these other racket Sports (01:59:15) is starting to convert to this really (01:59:17) tennis everybody from tennis is coming (01:59:19) over no I'm talking the professionals (01:59:20) I'm talking about like people that (01:59:21) played like in college or whatever (01:59:23) really and now they're starting to come (01:59:25) over to this like Miami they're obsessed (01:59:26) in Europe they're completely obsessed (01:59:28) like you go to like Sweden there's like (01:59:30) thousands like all like Cristiano (01:59:32) Ronaldo and all the soccer guys are all (01:59:34) playing it they own the facilities how (01:59:35) the [ __ ] am I just finding out about (01:59:37) this for the first time you guys got one (01:59:38) here what's it called they just built (01:59:40) one yeah the paddle Club Austin or (01:59:43) something something like that but it's (01:59:44) just it is I'm obset it's is never (01:59:48) ending dude I take lessons this guy just (01:59:49) ran outside the arena yeah that is crazy (01:59:53) but the fact that there's hope the fact (01:59:54) is like it's not just brute strength (01:59:56) there's that little guy that was playing (01:59:58) on the right right there choto is this (01:59:59) guy's like 5'3 and he's so skilled and (02:00:03) since it's not uh he's not in this court (02:00:06) but uh that that kopia is the best in (02:00:08) the world you know all the players I'm (02:00:10) obsessed with this in the way that (02:00:12) you're obsessed with jiu-jitsu I can't (02:00:14) believe I'm just finding out I play with (02:00:17) the I got to play with some of these (02:00:18) guys really and they toy with me like (02:00:21) they'll just bring me up to the on Drop (02:00:23) shots and then bring me back to the end (02:00:24) and I'm just running around like a (02:00:26) little [ __ ] but it's like these guys to (02:00:28) me are like Michael Jordan or like (02:00:30) LeBron James like I I get like giddy (02:00:32) around them I'm so excited and like I'm (02:00:35) telling you I I I'm taking lessons once (02:00:37) a week shout out my boy Lucho in New (02:00:39) York the best [ __ ] instructor on the (02:00:41) planet right now he works at paddle (02:00:42) house he incredible wow you're taking (02:00:44) lessons I'm playing three or four times (02:00:46) a week it's like everything yeah this is (02:00:48) my whole workout regimen is built around (02:00:50) making sure that my shoulder is okay so (02:00:52) can (02:00:54) play entire dedication to this the only (02:00:56) thing I've been obsessed like with this (02:00:58) about is is standup comedy wow it's the (02:01:01) only thing and I have no racket sport (02:01:02) background I never played tennis growing (02:01:03) up like I grew up in the city went to (02:01:05) public school it does look fun dude it's (02:01:08) look at you run outside it's just that's (02:01:11) so crazy that you run outside that's the (02:01:14) point isn't over you know what I mean (02:01:16) there's always hope like and that's the (02:01:18) beauty of like you're like a really (02:01:19) competitive person when you play against (02:01:21) someone who's got more strength than you (02:01:22) even like when I would like box and [ __ ] (02:01:24) like that like somebody who was just bet (02:01:26) like he was eventually if they can (02:01:28) connect it's over and like even in this (02:01:30) and power you can mitigate their power (02:01:33) you can move them around the court there (02:01:34) are guys that are way better than me at (02:01:35) tennis squash and all these other things (02:01:37) but strategically in this game if you (02:01:40) don't hit it out I got a chance wow and (02:01:43) it's just you should do commentary dude (02:01:46) I was telling the guys I literally told (02:01:48) the guys dude I was telling Wayne who (02:01:49) who owns Reserve man shout out Wayne and (02:01:51) I was like I know you have your guys (02:01:53) doing it but like dude I am obsessed (02:01:56) with this like Joe is with with uh with (02:01:58) the UFC and MMA like I you don't need to (02:02:00) pay me like I just want to talk about (02:02:01) the sport like I want to build this (02:02:02) [ __ ] thing up how do we build this (02:02:04) thing up and um I literally thought (02:02:06) about you seen you like this before I (02:02:08) get dude it drives my wife crazy like I (02:02:11) go to [ __ ] brunch on a Sunday and me (02:02:12) and my boy Jason are just talking about (02:02:14) our paddle games this week oh no dude (02:02:17) it's my boy Jason just hit me up and (02:02:18) he's like listen I know you got the (02:02:19) special and everything going out but my (02:02:20) calf is feeling better so we got a game (02:02:22) Wednesday and I'm like okay yeah yeah (02:02:24) yeah yeah I'm ready I'm I that's crazy (02:02:27) the coolest it's it's just the coolest (02:02:28) thing wow I know you don't [ __ ] with (02:02:30) team sports but this is looks fun it's (02:02:32) just it definitely looks fun it's great (02:02:34) it's great yeah Jamie's a little sneaky (02:02:36) athlete oh Jam's a good basketball (02:02:39) player Jamie sink threes yeah he's he's (02:02:42) sneaky we had a little fun you see him (02:02:44) play golf he he's a [ __ ] with (02:02:47) the drive he's got that simulator in the (02:02:49) back what's the what's the furthest here (02:02:52) right here we have it in the garage (02:02:54) what's the furthest you ever whacked one (02:02:55) of those on that I mean I don't know far (02:02:57) 300 yard whatever oh wow you're like a (02:02:59) legit dude his swing is legit you should (02:03:03) have seen Brian Callen trying to swing (02:03:05) after Jamie it was comical cuz I'm (02:03:07) behind him talking mad (02:03:12) [ __ ] I just you ain't going to beat (02:03:15) Jamie [ __ ] the the the joy that must (02:03:17) have come to you watching Jamie smoke (02:03:20) Ken oh it was so much fun (02:03:22) it was so much fun anyway yeah I'm so (02:03:26) obsessed with it like that's incredible (02:03:28) even now like just the idea that paddle (02:03:30) is spoken about on the Rogan podcast (02:03:32) it's just crazy how about you told me (02:03:33) about it I never even knew it was a (02:03:34) thing if someone brought it up to me I'd (02:03:36) be like that's [ __ ] that's not real (02:03:38) dude it is real and these guys are (02:03:40) starting to make money now like the pro (02:03:41) the top guys are starting to make like (02:03:43) you know decent amount of money that (02:03:44) looks like ESPN for sure like that looks (02:03:46) like oh look I had kamaro there oh well (02:03:49) doesn't kamaro have really [ __ ] up (02:03:50) knees don't ruin his knees bro (02:03:53) yeah yeah yeah I mean but he played (02:03:55) pickle ball cuz he's down there in Miami (02:03:57) his knees are so [ __ ] up yeah it's (02:03:58) it's uh I hope that um if if stem cell (02:04:03) technology advances if they you know the (02:04:06) FDA finally allows people to have the (02:04:08) same kind of stem cells in America that (02:04:10) they do in Colombia and mexic Norway or (02:04:13) is it Sweden where's like the where's (02:04:15) like the other place that they do it I (02:04:17) don't know if you want to get some (02:04:18) bougie if you want the wh stem (02:04:20) cells um I mean it's like Norway that (02:04:23) they're harvesting them well the places (02:04:25) that I know of are the big one is the (02:04:27) CPI and Tijana that's one of the best in (02:04:29) the world okay and that place is uh they (02:04:31) have a partnership with the UFC they (02:04:33) send a a lot of the athletes to and (02:04:35) there's another place in Colombia bio (02:04:36) accelerator there's an island in the (02:04:38) Caribbean that they do it too that they (02:04:40) like bring a they bring the they like (02:04:43) fly in the medical office essentially (02:04:45) for the week or two we periods oh okay (02:04:49) yeah and then they have like stem cells (02:04:50) that have been harvested in someplace (02:04:51) and my neighbor my neighbor did that so (02:04:54) I forget which island it is but well (02:04:56) there's Panama too Neil re Reen Dr Neil (02:04:59) Reen who's really he's written so many (02:05:01) books and papers on the I've done a (02:05:04) shitload of them yeah and and what is (02:05:06) the like immediate impact oh it it heals (02:05:09) soft tissue way better than anything (02:05:11) else that I've ever used before so like (02:05:13) what for example what injury did you (02:05:15) have that you felt the biggest one I've (02:05:17) talked about it before I apologize if (02:05:18) you heard this before people I had a (02:05:20) rotator cuff tear a full length rotator (02:05:22) cuff tear and went to a doctor went to (02:05:25) uh the UFC's doctor um they sent me to (02:05:27) orthopedic surgeon he looks at my MRI (02:05:30) you can't believe I can do anything he (02:05:31) says I can't believe you can do anything (02:05:32) with this shoulder like this is you have (02:05:34) a full length Ro rotator cuff tear but (02:05:36) he does all the stuff with me like push (02:05:38) down push up and he goes like you're (02:05:40) pretty functional he and uh he goes I (02:05:43) think it's probably because you have a (02:05:44) lot of muscle around the joint but he (02:05:46) goes but you're going to need surgery he (02:05:47) goes you could try to rehab it but (02:05:48) you're going to need surgery I go really (02:05:49) going to need surgery he goes yeah I go (02:05:51) if am I ruining my shoulder by not (02:05:53) having surgery he's like potentially (02:05:55) he's like you know try your best rehab (02:05:57) put it off as much as you want but (02:05:59) you're going to need surgery so then I (02:06:01) go to Dr Rody McGee in Vegas and this (02:06:03) was years ago he's doing stem cells with (02:06:06) UFC athletes he's bunch of different (02:06:08) people he's like well we could try it (02:06:10) and I think the stem cells I got them (02:06:12) actually aren't even available anymore (02:06:14) because they were too good um so they (02:06:16) inject it in my shoulder and then after (02:06:18) a couple weeks it feels pretty [ __ ] (02:06:19) good and then I rehab it I'm doing like (02:06:22) bands and all sorts of different stuff I (02:06:25) get it to the point where it starts (02:06:26) feeling good I start light like light (02:06:28) kettle bells feeling pretty good I go (02:06:30) back to him six months later he does an (02:06:31) MRI he says this is the most astounding (02:06:34) thing I've ever seen in all my years of (02:06:36) being an orthopedic surgeon he goes the (02:06:38) tear is gone like you this Ro this (02:06:41) fulllength rotator cuff tear that was (02:06:43) going to need surgery doesn't exist (02:06:45) anymore like when I say like my shoulder (02:06:47) is better I mean it doesn't bother me at (02:06:50) all like at all (02:06:52) I do everything I hit the bag I I uh do (02:06:57) kettle bells with 70 lbs I do swings and (02:07:00) curls and cleans and presses zero pain (02:07:03) not a not a not a one thing like man (02:07:06) maybe I shouldn't be doing this it like (02:07:08) feels 100% normal yeah and all stem (02:07:12) cells like I should I could have got CAU (02:07:14) with a sling and then you're done didn't (02:07:16) do any of that there's a I have a (02:07:18) shoulder a little bit of a shoulder (02:07:19) issue actually I'm curious if the stem (02:07:20) cells 100% I'll bring you to way to well (02:07:23) that's in Austin listen man they've (02:07:26) they've healed so many people that I'm (02:07:28) friends with so many like like minimal (02:07:31) scapular movement I think that was the (02:07:33) issue so I was making up for the fact (02:07:34) that my scapula doesn't move that much (02:07:37) with just stretching out the muscles (02:07:38) around it does that make sense so like (02:07:41) you I guess that the scapula is this (02:07:43) bone here the scapula is that the one (02:07:46) that kind of like hangs off yeah and (02:07:48) like that's supposed to move up with (02:07:50) your arm when you extend it and it was (02:07:52) staying there but I was still moving my (02:07:54) arm so I'm stretching all I guess the (02:07:56) muscles or tendons or whatever what did (02:07:58) happen to your scapula that made it (02:07:59) freeze like that I don't know like some (02:08:01) I was told that I might have like a (02:08:02) small tear in the rotator cuff like do (02:08:04) you hang do you ever hang from your (02:08:06) hands I mean I would do I do like (02:08:07) pull-ups as part of like a my you know (02:08:10) exercise routine when I'm doing any PS (02:08:11) are great exercise but hanging is great (02:08:14) for shoulder health so what I do every (02:08:17) day uh for at least a minute um usually (02:08:21) more I usually do like a couple of sets (02:08:23) of hangs before I do anything but I'll (02:08:26) do my warm-ups with like push-ups and (02:08:28) body weight squats and then what I do is (02:08:31) I chalk up my hands and I grab a hold of (02:08:33) the bar and I just hang and I just try (02:08:36) and I feel my back popping like it (02:08:38) decompresses your back because your (02:08:40) spine like the weight of your hips and (02:08:42) your legs is pulling on your spine for (02:08:44) the first time normally life is pushing (02:08:46) down on you Gravity the weight of your (02:08:48) body is pushing down wow now you're (02:08:49) using gravity to pull it all out yes so (02:08:51) I do that I hang that way and then I (02:08:53) also do that Dex we have a a machine out (02:08:55) there Teeter the company that makes (02:08:57) those things where you hang by your (02:08:59) ankles yeah I've seen it they have a a (02:09:00) great one where you it's called the (02:09:01) decks I like it better than the ankle (02:09:03) one where you you hinge at the hips and (02:09:05) you fall forward and then you just it's (02:09:07) basically like your lower body and your (02:09:10) hips are carrying um like locking your (02:09:13) weight in place and you're leaning (02:09:15) forward so the full weight of your upper (02:09:17) body is decompressing your back and I'll (02:09:20) feel it going like pop pop pop I'll feel (02:09:22) like little Pops in my back and I (02:09:24) stretch it and I move on that thing and (02:09:26) it's all just about keeping the the (02:09:29) spine pliable and keeping the range of (02:09:31) motion in your spine but also in your (02:09:33) shoulder joints it's one of the best (02:09:35) things for shoulder joints is to just (02:09:37) hang and I'll hang with one arm (02:09:38) sometimes I'll hang with both arms but (02:09:41) I'm just like letting it all stretch out (02:09:44) so it stretches all your your the (02:09:46) mobility of your shoulders and creates (02:09:49) space in there allows everything to move (02:09:51) Freer and then I'll do my chinups so I (02:09:54) do my sets of chinups that's your (02:09:56) stretch essentially yes okay maybe I (02:09:59) have to add that in yeah I also stretch (02:10:01) on a bar where I grab the bar and I turn (02:10:03) like this and I get it like that and I (02:10:04) get like a deep stretch that way and I (02:10:06) get a deep stretch the other way and (02:10:08) I'll do that on my back on the ground (02:10:10) you should also do these things called (02:10:12) it's called crossover symmetry um is (02:10:15) these bands and they have varying uh (02:10:17) resistance like different colors or (02:10:19) different strength of resistance you (02:10:20) don't even need a lot of resistance (02:10:22) the whole idea is just you're working (02:10:23) the tendons and all the connective (02:10:26) tissue and it's you're just doing all (02:10:27) these like different shoulder exercises (02:10:30) and so they they cross like one is (02:10:31) attached to a post over here and the (02:10:33) other one's here so I'm doing these and (02:10:34) I'm doing these and I'm doing I'm (02:10:36) pinning them against my arm and I'm (02:10:37) doing it like that where I'm just (02:10:39) working the rotator cup muscles and just (02:10:41) just to keep everything you're creating (02:10:44) the torque on the joint yeah whereas (02:10:46) like when you're lifting weights you can (02:10:47) kind of manipulate what part of your (02:10:49) body is lifting you can and that's how (02:10:51) you get inj (02:10:52) yeah that's I got to do the cuz that's (02:10:54) my biggest concern right now is I mean (02:10:56) you know to bring it back to your friend (02:10:57) is how do I play that's so crazy like (02:11:01) everything I do I like I do pt twice a (02:11:03) week shout out my boy Mike helon he's (02:11:04) [ __ ] great you do pt twice a week (02:11:06) yeah it's like I'm lifting but I'm with (02:11:07) a guy who is a PT so if there is an (02:11:09) issue we can oh I see I see but he'll (02:11:11) just take me through weightlifting if (02:11:13) I'm feeling good and if I'm not then (02:11:14) we're doing some work and have you been (02:11:16) able to increase the mobility of your SC (02:11:18) dud my yes and my shoulder was [ __ ] (02:11:20) before and he brought it back (02:11:22) him and him and this guy Kyle were like (02:11:24) don't do surgery like they they were (02:11:26) like once you do surgery you're [ __ ] (02:11:28) and so let's try to work this thing out (02:11:30) by building muscle around it getting (02:11:32) Mobility into the joint and like they (02:11:34) brought the shoulder back like this was (02:11:36) before I ever play one thing real clear (02:11:38) that's not always true um I know a lot (02:11:40) of people that have had successful (02:11:41) shoulder surgery and in some cases (02:11:44) that's the only thing you can do save (02:11:46) yourself yeah there's like Yuri prasa (02:11:48) UFC for light heavyweight champion his (02:11:51) shoulder was blown part they had to put (02:11:52) it back together again they had to and (02:11:54) Incredibly effective yeah damn that (02:11:57) Jamal Hill fight un holy [ __ ] (02:11:58) unbelievable holy [ __ ] so for uh a (02:12:01) situation like that shoulder surgery was (02:12:04) necessary his [ __ ] was torn apart yeah (02:12:06) you can't just heal that with stem cells (02:12:08) but there are things you can heal with (02:12:09) stem cells and it it definitely helps (02:12:12) soft tissue injuries in a way like (02:12:14) nothing else I've ever used yeah yeah (02:12:16) it's it's it's legit and brigam buer (02:12:19) who's the CEO of waste to well he's (02:12:22) worked so hard on educ he's been on this (02:12:24) podcast a bunch of times and Tucker's (02:12:26) podcast a bunch of podcasts just talking (02:12:28) about all these different methods that (02:12:30) are available that are being stifled by (02:12:33) the FDA and that's the thing is like (02:12:34) once you get something that you're (02:12:36) addicted to longevity e exercise or (02:12:39) regiments or whatever it is are very (02:12:41) easy to Doh because you're not really (02:12:44) doing them so you can live to 100 you're (02:12:45) like how do I play this thing next week (02:12:48) right and all the motivation comes from (02:12:51) it really simple like I actually can't (02:12:53) wait to go do the PT whatever it is (02:12:55) because I'm like okay I have a game (02:12:56) Wednesday and I want to be good to play (02:12:58) it sounds ridiculous I'm 41 I'm not (02:13:00) going pro at this thing but I love it so (02:13:02) much that I would literally I'm looking (02:13:04) up the [ __ ] bpc 157 I'm like do I (02:13:07) need the yeah the Wolverine [ __ ] that (02:13:09) they say right and it's like do I get (02:13:11) that so I can recover faster yeah get (02:13:13) that is it have you tried that it's (02:13:15) legit super legit I recommend it to a (02:13:17) buddy with no research I was like you (02:13:18) should do this and then a couple weeks (02:13:20) later he's like I'm on it and I was like (02:13:22) did you look up I'm not a doctor or (02:13:24) anything look into this thing but uh but (02:13:27) he said he did it for his uh he he got (02:13:29) an ACL surgery MH and his doctor he (02:13:33) asked about it and his doctor goes I (02:13:35) take it well that's a good doctor (02:13:37) because I've had friends where I tell (02:13:38) them about their doctors say oh you (02:13:40) shouldn't do that there's no studies a (02:13:41) CH that's the thing I feel like there's (02:13:43) like Old Guard guys that are a little (02:13:45) bit hesitant to use some of the maybe (02:13:46) newer technology and I'm sure they have (02:13:48) their Reasons I'm not I don't know more (02:13:49) than them about the science but are (02:13:51) these new technologies that can maybe (02:13:53) extend our playing age again I don't (02:13:56) need to be a pro but I love this thing (02:13:59) and I want to do it as much as I can I (02:14:01) want to get as good as I possibly can (02:14:03) yeah it feels good to be getting better (02:14:05) at something at this age well let me (02:14:07) tell you something there's a reason why (02:14:08) usada uh didn't let people use it in the (02:14:10) UFC and now drug-free sport also doesn't (02:14:12) let people use it in the UFC it's (02:14:14) because it works it's wait a minute why (02:14:16) would they not wouldn't wouldn't it be (02:14:18) advantageous for the athletes recover (02:14:20) exactly it's really stupid but the idea (02:14:22) is that it's performance enhancing (02:14:23) because it it lets you heal quicker so (02:14:26) heal from injuries quicker potentially (02:14:28) heal from recovering from training (02:14:30) quicker and and what would their (02:14:32) argument I mean the only argument I've (02:14:33) heard is like it increases well the idea (02:14:36) is like keep everybody on a completely (02:14:38) Level Playing Field how do you do that (02:14:41) no one's able to take anything you can't (02:14:43) take any performance-enhancing sub (02:14:45) accessible to all athletes well I think (02:14:48) that's the right way to do it but the (02:14:49) problem is that okay what peptides are (02:14:51) we talking about what about things like (02:14:53) HCG which radically increase (02:14:55) testosterone production are you allowed (02:14:56) to do that okay because if you're (02:14:58) allowed to do that like what level is (02:15:00) that steroids only recovery I think any (02:15:02) recovery drug like obviously there's (02:15:05) risk to all this like you increase cell (02:15:06) growth and if you have cancer God (02:15:08) forbidden in your body those cells are (02:15:09) going to grow as well right there's an (02:15:10) argument for that but I think the real (02:15:12) argument is like what's causing cancer (02:15:14) right the re the real argument is like (02:15:16) eliminating environmental toxins and the (02:15:19) issues also there's people that have (02:15:20) genetic predisposition I to cancer (02:15:22) unfortunately but the the real reality (02:15:24) about cancer is unfortunately like what (02:15:26) you take into your body has a (02:15:28) significant effect your diet has a (02:15:31) significant effect exercise has a (02:15:33) significant effect and also do you (02:15:35) participate in any recovery activities (02:15:38) like sauna which is huge they did a (02:15:41) study out of Finland again I apologize (02:15:43) if you've heard this before uh it was uh (02:15:45) 20year study they found people who use (02:15:47) sauna for 4 days a week had a 40% (02:15:50) decrease in all cause mortality all (02:15:54) cause meaning heart attack stroke cancer (02:15:57) you name it yeah 40% decrease just (02:16:00) because of the effects of sauna how do (02:16:02) they how do they test that like where's (02:16:05) the uh what is the what is the term the (02:16:07) something group like the group that well (02:16:09) this is what they did they did this (02:16:10) study randomized control trial right so (02:16:13) they they did this study where they took (02:16:16) these people and sauna use in Finland is (02:16:19) everywhere everybody uses a sauna and so (02:16:21) they did it based on uh these (02:16:24) questionnaires do you do the sauna once (02:16:26) a week do you sauna twice a week what (02:16:28) temperature do you do the sauna and how (02:16:30) long do you do it for and they (02:16:32) determined that the people that did the (02:16:33) sauna four times a week for 20 minutes (02:16:36) at 175 degrees had a 40% decrease in all (02:16:40) cause mortality now when you drop the (02:16:43) number of sessions you also drop the the (02:16:46) all cause mortality survival got it so (02:16:49) like it's like 20% at once a week you (02:16:52) know 30% so it's like that like (02:16:55) measurable differences in the amount of (02:16:58) people that were healthy and robust who (02:17:00) do it four times a week yeah I mean (02:17:04) that's interesting because the easiest (02:17:05) way to discredit would be like well yeah (02:17:07) the people that do saunas want to (02:17:09) increase their life but what you're (02:17:11) saying is there's an increased amount of (02:17:14) assistance if you do it more right the (02:17:17) benefits are legitimate real measurable (02:17:20) it's her stress there's it's heat shock (02:17:23) proteins your body produces to deal with (02:17:25) the fact that you're you're essentially (02:17:27) dying like you can't stay like I do it (02:17:29) at 196 you can't stay there very long I (02:17:32) do 25 minutes at 196 have you ever (02:17:34) passed out in it no okay is that a thing (02:17:38) people do like I don't pass (02:17:41) out get out the smelling salts I stay (02:17:44) awake um no you could though yeah I mean (02:17:48) if you the type of person who passes out (02:17:50) if you've got issues yeah yeah I I think (02:17:53) some people pass out just from stress (02:17:55) yeah I watched a kid uh blackout the (02:17:57) other night one of these school things (02:17:58) that my kid had to go to really some boy (02:18:00) fainted on stage wow yeah sometimes (02:18:03) people just sometimes they just your (02:18:06) your brain goes too much check please i' (02:18:08) I've seen like I not passed out but like (02:18:11) uh I was having like breathing (02:18:13) issues I didn't understand what the [ __ ] (02:18:15) it was and like uh my wife and I were (02:18:17) trying to get pregnant it was like (02:18:19) really difficult cuz my sperm sucks and (02:18:21) and I would I would have like um I guess (02:18:24) it was stress related I didn't know what (02:18:25) the [ __ ] it was like I went to a doctor (02:18:27) and I was like I feel like I can't catch (02:18:28) my breath and I started doing these like (02:18:30) a it's like a Navy SE breathing (02:18:32) technique or whatever breathing box (02:18:34) breathing yeah and I would try to do (02:18:36) that I mean it was so weird it wouldn't (02:18:38) affect me on stage because once I'm on (02:18:40) stage I'm like locked into the (02:18:41) performance and that's how I knew it was (02:18:43) all Psy psychological but like when I (02:18:45) was offstage there were times where I'd (02:18:46) be at the cellar and I have to leave the (02:18:48) cellar and there's this little Park on (02:18:49) Sixth Avenue that's like not even really (02:18:52) a park but there's like benches and I (02:18:53) would just sit there and I would just (02:18:54) [ __ ] box Breathe by myself trying to (02:18:57) get a full breath and I go to this (02:18:59) doctor and I was like what the [ __ ] is (02:19:00) it and it it was a stress induced uh (02:19:03) exfix or something like that wow and I (02:19:06) was just so like what was so stressful (02:19:08) to you at that moment I could we (02:19:10) couldn't get pregnant like I found out (02:19:11) my SP so was that okay yeah yeah and (02:19:14) like not where HCG comes in actually cuz (02:19:17) that's one of those peptides that (02:19:19) actually increases your sperm production (02:19:21) yeah well my I my sperm wasn't swimming (02:19:24) that was the issue got to get those (02:19:26) [ __ ] in the (02:19:27) pool (02:19:30) gold that helps too that's supposed to (02:19:32) be good for your nuts bro I I hit up (02:19:34) worst apparently well that's they said (02:19:36) heat and cold I like hit up hberman I (02:19:37) was like yo what should I do and he's (02:19:38) like all right take these pills and then (02:19:40) the doctors even tell me they're like um (02:19:43) they're like take these pills and then (02:19:44) also uh you got lazy jizz bro dud I got (02:19:47) the laziest [ __ ] jiz bro it's no you (02:19:50) just wait for it I I got take the pills (02:19:52) they're like don't drink I'm like okay (02:19:53) I'm not going to drink they're don't (02:19:53) smoke okay I'm not going to smoke they (02:19:55) go uh wear baggy underwear and they're (02:19:57) like ice your balls once a day holla so (02:20:00) I do that for a month I go get or two (02:20:02) months I go get my sperm tested again it (02:20:04) got worse really yeah and they're like (02:20:07) we haven't even [ __ ] seen this and um (02:20:10) and yeah so like we had to we do IVF and (02:20:12) everything that's what the special is (02:20:13) about like it's just the story of us (02:20:15) trying to try there was a study uh I (02:20:17) think it was out of Japan and what they (02:20:19) were doing was they're getting people to (02:20:23) cold plunge before exercise so you cold (02:20:26) plunge for three minutes and then you (02:20:29) exercise and you force your body to heat (02:20:31) up while you're working (02:20:33) out massive increase in testosterone to (02:20:36) the point where this one guy he had um (02:20:39) he got his uh prostate levels checked (02:20:42) and his doctor was like this is this is (02:20:44) concerning yeah like uh we want to do (02:20:47) this we want to do that we want to put (02:20:49) you on this and put you on that and the (02:20:50) guy says you know there's this this is (02:20:52) an article that's available online this (02:20:53) one guy tried this he goes okay well let (02:20:55) me find out what's available online so (02:20:57) he he finds out po Cal plunging does it (02:21:00) yeah and then so here this is the thing (02:21:03) Japanese Cal plunge study often (02:21:04) referenced discussed about C immersing (02:21:06) the wrist in cold water before exercise (02:21:08) significantly increased testosterone (02:21:10) levels in young Japanese men compared to (02:21:12) immersing it after exercise which (02:21:14) suppress testosterone levels (02:21:16) highlighting the importance of timing (02:21:18) when using cold stimulation for (02:21:19) potential hormonal benefit (02:21:21) so um what this guy did was he he (02:21:24) plunged not just the wrist and then um (02:21:27) went to the doctor months later and the (02:21:29) doctor thought he was on hormones the (02:21:31) doctor's like you have 1,00 testosterone (02:21:34) this is crazy like what's going on and (02:21:36) he tells them I've been cold plunging (02:21:38) before I lift weights and the doctor's (02:21:40) like well keep [ __ ] doing that that (02:21:43) yeah and so I know a lot I do that now (02:21:45) really yeah I know a lot of people that (02:21:46) do that now they this is how they start (02:21:48) their workout my workout starts with a (02:21:50) cold Plunge so my issue wasn't even the (02:21:52) tea they were like yeah your tea levels (02:21:54) are good it's just the swimmers it was (02:21:56) the swimmers and then they were like (02:21:57) shaped weird like I mean it's just like (02:21:59) bro yeah it was bro no dude it was I (02:22:02) mean it was too funny I I told the guy I (02:22:04) mean this is I I don't even do this into (02:22:06) special or anything but like I I they (02:22:08) were like the their the shape is a (02:22:10) little off or whatever and I was you're (02:22:12) so defensive I go well maybe when they (02:22:14) hit the cup so hard yeah so like I'm (02:22:19) still trying to like I got an ego about (02:22:21) it I'm like bro you should have seen the (02:22:22) way they [ __ ] it's a car crash over (02:22:25) here it's it's coming in at 400 PSI but (02:22:29) it was it was crazy once once we got (02:22:30) pregnant it went away and it was like (02:22:33) immediately went away wow I could (02:22:35) breathe again and it wasn't this feeling (02:22:36) like I couldn't breathe it was about (02:22:38) catching a full breath you know when (02:22:41) you're like running and at the end of (02:22:42) your you're doing like a hard cardio (02:22:44) intensive exercise this idea like you (02:22:46) can't get to 100% in your lungs yeah and (02:22:49) I never had experienced in my life life (02:22:51) like I can I can work pretty hard like I (02:22:55) I feel like maybe that's a competitive (02:22:56) advantage of mine like I might not be (02:22:58) the most skilled in certain things but (02:22:59) like I can I can go I I have a good (02:23:01) motor I can [ __ ] push it and it was (02:23:03) the first time in my life where like a (02:23:06) psychological issue affected my body (02:23:09) physically I didn't even know that that (02:23:11) was (02:23:12) possible and uh I know that that's (02:23:15) happened to a lot of people I know that (02:23:16) got cancelled people that got canceled (02:23:18) where they were just overwhelmed where (02:23:20) they didn't couldn't breathe and they (02:23:21) didn't think that they could make it (02:23:23) they were like I can't do this I oh cuz (02:23:24) they were going through that yeah they (02:23:26) were going through it like in the heart (02:23:27) of it and they're like you got to call (02:23:28) up check up on them and make sure (02:23:31) they're okay I remember Tony when I I (02:23:33) remember the fork in the road I remember (02:23:36) the the curve I was driving on when I (02:23:38) was talking on the phone to Tony when he (02:23:40) was going through his first one yeah and (02:23:43) um he's like I just this is not good man (02:23:45) I'm not doing good and I'm like [ __ ] man (02:23:48) and there was like that was the moment (02:23:50) where I was like like please don't kill (02:23:52) yourself oh wow like you're going to get (02:23:53) better you're going to be fine do not I (02:23:55) I didn't say that that's what you're (02:23:57) thinking that's what I was thinking I (02:23:58) remember being in my car going ooh like (02:24:02) hearing him on the phone we were on (02:24:03) speaker phone I was like [ __ ] man well (02:24:05) yeah you dedicate your entire life to (02:24:07) one thing and but it's also it's just (02:24:09) like feeling like it's over everything's (02:24:11) over your career is over your life is (02:24:12) over as you know one stupid thing and (02:24:14) now it's over forever and just the you (02:24:18) can't breathe you can't breathe and you (02:24:20) know Tony's tough he he's resilient he (02:24:23) he got through it pretty quick and he (02:24:24) was back and then you know a couple (02:24:26) weeks later he was laughing about it (02:24:27) yeah but some people it you know they (02:24:30) get wrecked and they're not the same (02:24:32) ever again I think that does happen to (02:24:34) people and then there's a different (02:24:35) version of them afterwards because they (02:24:38) don't want to experience that again it (02:24:40) is it is weird like I'm not as affected (02:24:43) by that kind of stuff now maybe I (02:24:45) haven't gone through on that level but (02:24:48) and I also think there's something about (02:24:49) having a kid like I just care less about (02:24:51) the like I care very very few people I (02:24:53) care what they think about me it's like (02:24:55) really liberating in a lot of ways you (02:24:57) know right but um but yeah there was (02:25:01) something about like like are we not (02:25:03) going to be able to get pregnant and (02:25:04) then like (02:25:05) feeling you feel horrible I also you (02:25:07) start like going why would God not want (02:25:09) me to have a kid like did I do something (02:25:11) bad like you start thinking like if (02:25:12) there's some sort of karmic reason for (02:25:14) that [ __ ] also before I knew it was me I (02:25:17) don't want to share it with anybody it's (02:25:18) really isolating cuz I thought it was my (02:25:20) wife like everybody always thinks it's (02:25:21) the woman who's got a [ __ ] problem (02:25:23) with their eggs or whatever and that's (02:25:25) such a [ __ ] ass dude thing no that's (02:25:28) what we think cuz we don't know it could (02:25:29) be us when did you ever like every time (02:25:32) I looked at my (02:25:33) SP couldn't be me look at look at the (02:25:36) amount of [ __ ] jiz I'm producing yeah (02:25:38) I'm killing it right like literally so (02:25:41) and then and then you think about it and (02:25:43) I will say this though like like finding (02:25:47) out that it was me and being able to I (02:25:49) felt more comfortable talking about on (02:25:50) stage AG because now I'm not talking (02:25:51) about this incredibly embarrassing thing (02:25:53) to this woman who does not want to be in (02:25:55) entertainment at all like the most (02:25:57) private person about me I was like oh I (02:25:59) can talk about this a little bit and (02:26:00) being able to talk about on stage and I (02:26:03) would talk about on stage and like there (02:26:04) would be these dudes that would come up (02:26:05) to me after shows and they wouldn't (02:26:06) admit they were going through it but (02:26:08) they'd be like yo that was really funny (02:26:09) bro like yeah you should keep talking (02:26:11) about that [ __ ] and then I I would like (02:26:14) talk about on tour and I get these (02:26:16) [ __ ] DMS and like all these people (02:26:18) would start telling me that they're (02:26:19) going through IVF and like even close (02:26:22) friends start to be like yo actually (02:26:23) that's how we got pregnant and I didn't (02:26:25) realize it was this this like almost (02:26:28) like last taboo thing where there's this (02:26:31) incredible isolation at because you (02:26:33) don't want to feel the Judgment there's (02:26:34) all this pressure to obviously have a (02:26:35) family you don't want to feel like (02:26:36) you're the person that's like stopping (02:26:38) that but I didn't realize and I'm 40 so (02:26:41) a lot of older people are probably going (02:26:42) through this maybe young people are not (02:26:44) but like everybody in my immediate (02:26:47) circle going through this [ __ ] let me (02:26:48) ask you this like first of all when did (02:26:51) IVF (02:26:53) become available to people and how many (02:26:57) people a year do you think use IVF and (02:27:00) if they didn't how many less people (02:27:02) would there be on earth brother brother (02:27:04) brother this is like there were three (02:27:05) things when I talked to Trump that I (02:27:07) wanted to ask him about specifically and (02:27:09) one of them was securing IVF because I (02:27:12) know a lot of people who are against (02:27:13) abortion also look at IVF and like okay (02:27:16) you're throwing out embryos you're you (02:27:17) know killing people or potential people (02:27:20) and they want to use the (02:27:22) anti-abortion argument to get rid of IVF (02:27:25) and really is that a thing yeah of (02:27:27) course it's happening now and what Trump (02:27:29) said on pod who's trying to ban that um (02:27:33) I guess we could look that up I think (02:27:34) that it was in uh there's a few states (02:27:36) that was happening in that seems insane (02:27:38) yeah why would you not want more people (02:27:40) well they look at it as killing people (02:27:42) because Life Starts a conception and the (02:27:44) embryos is essentially conception which (02:27:46) like I understand your logic I I don't I (02:27:48) don't disagree with the logic behind (02:27:50) that but but at the same time that is (02:27:53) the way that the only way some people (02:27:55) can get pregnant (02:27:57) and I will give it is Senate Republicans (02:28:00) block IVF bill as Democrats Elevate (02:28:02) issue ahead of November election but (02:28:04) what I'll say is Trump said that they're (02:28:06) going to back it with the full power of (02:28:07) the Republican party and that anybody (02:28:09) that goes against it that they would (02:28:10) campaign against and then he even signed (02:28:12) that executive order to expand it he (02:28:14) wants to expand access to it oh that's (02:28:16) great which is [ __ ] yeah it's (02:28:17) incredible well for people that want to (02:28:18) be parents man I know quite a people few (02:28:20) people like yourself they want to be (02:28:22) parents so bad and that gave them the (02:28:24) ability and now they're so happy and (02:28:25) it's the most incredible thing in the (02:28:26) world yeah and if they don't do that (02:28:28) guess what there's no babies it's not (02:28:29) like it's like more life will occur if (02:28:32) you have if you allow this also we got (02:28:33) to deal with the downstream like I'm (02:28:35) sure some of this [ __ ] is probably it (02:28:37) might me it just might be genetic I (02:28:38) don't [ __ ] know but maybe it's (02:28:39) microplastics all in my balls maybe it's (02:28:41) my phone like there's a lot of things (02:28:43) that are not in our control that are (02:28:45) negatively impacting us and then to (02:28:46) restrict our ability to have a family I (02:28:48) feel like it's kind of unfair you like (02:28:51) bestowed this thing upon me that has (02:28:54) affected our ability or some woman's (02:28:56) ability I wonder if it's like more (02:28:57) prevalent the issue or the necessity of (02:29:00) it with people that live in cities oh (02:29:02) dude every time a car breaks yeah the (02:29:05) amount of microplastics that go into the (02:29:07) world are way more than using like a (02:29:08) plastic bottle to drink out of yeah (02:29:10) break dust yeah yeah it's particulate (02:29:13) absolutely that's the [ __ ] that you wipe (02:29:14) off your wheels when you clean your car (02:29:16) stuff in the end you never wash your car (02:29:18) Noe Jesus Christ yeah I mean I didn't (02:29:20) have a car until like a year ago what do (02:29:22) you got now got anything good no nothing (02:29:24) well I got a fun one I got a really I (02:29:26) got a Suzuki Samurai oo it's the coolest (02:29:28) [ __ ] car on the planet those are fun (02:29:30) they're so cool it was yeah it was sick (02:29:32) that's a good car to park in the city (02:29:33) too you don't give a [ __ ] what happens (02:29:34) to that thing well I got it out in the (02:29:35) Hamptons but yeah what year is it it's (02:29:37) uh (02:29:39) 87 that's such a piece of [ __ ] oh it's a (02:29:41) piece of [ __ ] but it is like it's also (02:29:44) just so fun like I don't I'm not trying (02:29:46) to compete with you on like having like (02:29:47) a fancy car or whatever like that I just (02:29:48) love how [ __ ] rug I don't care (02:29:51) I got to turn you on to some [ __ ] F (02:29:53) you you know the good [ __ ] like yeah you (02:29:54) got to learn you got to learn the (02:29:56) appreciation of cars I got my yeah there (02:29:58) it is I there the boys look at that look (02:30:00) at the boys that thing's fun oh yeah (02:30:03) look a cute little car is it adorable I (02:30:05) wouldn't take that thing around the (02:30:06) block but wait you're saying you (02:30:08) wouldn't get in that car with with six (02:30:11) with six guys yeah I'd go with you guys (02:30:12) shouldn't that be on the cover of every (02:30:13) gay magazine it should be I (02:30:15) be like if you take this pill this is (02:30:18) what you'll have you'll have fun with (02:30:20) your on the beach with a Suzuki Samurai (02:30:22) it's so much fun and they're reliable as (02:30:24) [ __ ] that's the thing about them every (02:30:26) Japanese car is reliable they're the (02:30:27) best the thing about Japanese culture is (02:30:29) that like it's refinement culture so (02:30:31) like I feel like there any I there's (02:30:34) this Japanese DJ I saw his name is a (02:30:36) yosui Yuki Matsu okay he had like brain (02:30:40) cancer and then like he thought he was (02:30:42) going to die so he was like [ __ ] I'm (02:30:43) going to be a DJ with the time I got (02:30:44) left and went into remission but he (02:30:46) basically quit his construction job he (02:30:48) just did this Boiler Room set and it is (02:30:50) just like like I could be like putting (02:30:52) this energy on it cuz I want to believe (02:30:54) it or whatever but the intensity of it (02:30:56) is this is my shot and I'm going to be (02:30:59) unrelenting right and the second I saw (02:31:02) that he's Japanese maybe this is my like (02:31:04) this is the guy look at him go but can (02:31:06) you like can you IM look at this (02:31:09) [ __ ] the a Japanese person being (02:31:12) a DJ before I even listen to the set I (02:31:14) was like oh this is going to be the best (02:31:15) set I've ever heard because they would (02:31:18) never put themselves out there be and do (02:31:21) it half ass like every 30-year-old model (02:31:23) in America is like I'll be a DJ now but (02:31:25) in Japan the culture is so like don't (02:31:27) bring shame upon your family don't bring (02:31:30) attention to yourself unless you are the (02:31:32) greatest do you know the term Kaizen do (02:31:34) you know what that means no what is that (02:31:36) Kaizen is uh a Japanese term for taking (02:31:41) a thing and continuing to refine it (02:31:45) until it reaches Perfection yeah yeah so (02:31:48) Japanese first of all (02:31:51) like supercars were always Italian it (02:31:54) was always you know German Porsche (02:31:58) Ferrari that kind of [ __ ] and then uh (02:32:01) Nissan created a car that destroyed (02:32:03) everybody what was it the GTR mhm so the (02:32:06) Nissan GTR they've essentially been (02:32:09) making the same exact car just refining (02:32:13) it for like 20 years I have a (02:32:16) 2024 Nissan GTR Nismo which is their (02:32:21) race package one which is the most (02:32:23) refined version of the GTR they've ever (02:32:26) and it's a [ __ ] Marvel of engineering (02:32:30) and refinement that [ __ ] car is (02:32:33) magical it's just glued to the road you (02:32:36) ever seen one you know show me pull up a (02:32:38) black Nissan (02:32:40) 2024 GTR (02:32:43) Nismo they can't put out [ __ ] it's (02:32:45) shameful to put out [ __ ] right and I (02:32:47) feel like they they're almost like done (02:32:49) refining their culture and now they're (02:32:51) tapping into other things like that's (02:32:52) what it looks like oh wow yeah it looks (02:32:54) like what's the that's not that's a (02:32:57) that's a Nismo 300 that's mine looks my (02:32:59) car what is that Nissan Z was it z300 or (02:33:02) something like (02:33:03) that um this came out when I was College (02:33:06) yeah 340z there's a bunch of those but (02:33:08) that's the that's the GTR yeah that (02:33:11) thing it's just it's just it's just a (02:33:15) you're on a ride you're riding a ride (02:33:17) everywhere wors and clinks and clunks (02:33:19) and (02:33:21) yeah yeah it's so fun that's a different (02:33:24) one that's a 300 z a (02:33:26) 370Z that's pretty sick too though that (02:33:28) looks good but there's like a whole (02:33:30) culture of taking these things like (02:33:31) there's guys that make these things they (02:33:33) Jack them up to 2,000 horsepower and (02:33:35) they spit fire out of the back of them (02:33:37) but they do it with pizza like the best (02:33:39) pizza I've ever had and I'm from New (02:33:40) York city is in Tokyo really the best (02:33:43) pizza you've ever ever had is in Tokyo I (02:33:45) forget the name of the place wow but it (02:33:47) uh my wife and I were in Tokyo and uh (02:33:50) but it's it was the best stake I've ever (02:33:51) had is in Tokyo really and it it's (02:33:54) something about like doing something (02:33:55) half ass I think is shameful and there's (02:33:58) this great honor in like this refinement (02:34:01) process now there is a social cost to (02:34:04) that there's a rigidity meaning like (02:34:07) it's very here's a perfect example like (02:34:09) the oldest hotel in the world I think is (02:34:11) this hotel in Japan it's like starting (02:34:12) in 703 year 7003 whoa and oh I've seen (02:34:16) that yeah and it's been owned by the (02:34:17) same family for 52 Generations right (02:34:20) which is like an unbelievable feat when (02:34:23) you think about like American families (02:34:25) or British families that like have (02:34:26) gotten rich and then three generations (02:34:28) they've squandered it all like really (02:34:30) successful families it's all been (02:34:33) destroyed and there is this thing in I (02:34:35) think Japanese culture which is like (02:34:37) there's this great honor in taking on (02:34:38) the tradition of your family the cost of (02:34:41) that is there was probably a comedian or (02:34:44) a chef or somebody that in that line (02:34:47) that didn't do the thing that they (02:34:48) really were passionate about to honor (02:34:51) their family but the societal benefit is (02:34:54) probably the majority of people don't (02:34:56) have those dreams and having purpose in (02:34:59) this job is probably better for them and (02:35:03) I think there's a middle ground where (02:35:04) you can still go dream and do these (02:35:06) things but also we have some respect for (02:35:09) being a cobbler when your dad was a (02:35:11) cobbler and his dad was a cobbler I feel (02:35:13) like we've lost that a little bit in (02:35:14) like American Dream culture where it's (02:35:16) like if you don't go out and achieve (02:35:18) your craziest dream well some people (02:35:19) don't have that dream but taking over (02:35:20) their dad's business is something that (02:35:22) they can feel good about in honor (02:35:24) instead of like oh yeah so I just took (02:35:26) over the family business well doing a (02:35:28) good job at anything there's a lot of (02:35:30) value in that for everybody if you love (02:35:32) making shoes and you become a cobbler (02:35:34) and you make awesome shoes and you got (02:35:36) like Andrew shows up bro those shoes are (02:35:38) sick I love them I want another pair but (02:35:40) could you make them in crocodile oh (02:35:42) let's go it's exciting like making (02:35:45) things and having relationships with the (02:35:47) people you sell them to that's super (02:35:48) rewarding we we do chase that big dream (02:35:52) over in America and make it seem like (02:35:54) everybody has to have it but the dream (02:35:56) of making cabinets that are awesome is a (02:35:58) pretty [ __ ] cool dream yeah the dream (02:36:00) of being a painter is a pretty cool (02:36:01) dream like there's there's a lot of (02:36:03) dreams that don't get the value added to (02:36:06) them because of Fame like we we we have (02:36:09) this weird thing about Fame above all in (02:36:12) this country Fame above all like moms (02:36:15) being a mom isn't really valued like oh (02:36:18) yeah it's a real I think it's a real (02:36:19) problem (02:36:20) I I think that uh and it's not all (02:36:22) places like I'm sure there are places (02:36:23) that are more like family oriented where (02:36:24) like like being a mom is an honored (02:36:27) respected thing a lot out here man I (02:36:29) love that yeah like I'm in New York it's (02:36:31) not that right nor is it in LA in La a (02:36:33) lot of the moms have jobs too they have (02:36:35) careers they don't want to abandon their (02:36:37) career they might shame those moms that (02:36:38) decide to stay home and take care of (02:36:40) their kids when yeah I don't think that (02:36:43) that's it would be great if there was (02:36:45) less rigidity and there was a lot of (02:36:47) Honor in that and it was something we (02:36:48) really respected because I know in New (02:36:50) York even my wife like my wife is like (02:36:52) you know she got her [ __ ] MBA she was (02:36:53) working for apple and AI projects and (02:36:55) then she goes I that's my dream to be a (02:36:57) mom and I feel societal scrutiny about (02:36:59) it but I don't [ __ ] care because I (02:37:01) want to be a mom you know who really (02:37:03) gets the scrutiny stay- atome dad's that (02:37:06) [ __ ] is (02:37:07) [Laughter] (02:37:18) gay you try to lip pill me Joe what the (02:37:21) [ __ ] I want to see where you would go (02:37:23) with (02:37:24) it I fed you one of them little racket (02:37:27) ball balls yeah the paddle paddle paddle (02:37:29) paddle ball yeah I've P you one of those (02:37:31) half filed tennis balls and you [ __ ] (02:37:33) shoved it down my (02:37:34) [Laughter] (02:37:38) throat but yeah I don't that is the (02:37:40) weird thing it's like I know as well as (02:37:43) a male you feel a real strong pull to be (02:37:45) a provider we do feels very important (02:37:48) and it really like as you become a (02:37:51) father and you raise children it like (02:37:53) really gets instilled on you like I (02:37:55) always had a really good work ethic but (02:37:58) becoming a father maybe have a much (02:37:59) stronger work ethic like there's no I if (02:38:04) I was a single man with no (02:38:05) responsibilities who knows if I would (02:38:07) work as hard who knows if I would take (02:38:08) days off I would [ __ ] off I if my (02:38:10) friends are like hey you know let's go (02:38:12) bow hunting in Argentina like yeah I'll (02:38:14) take the day off [ __ ] it the biggest lie (02:38:17) about having kids is that you won't be (02:38:20) able to provide for them I think a lot (02:38:21) of people go oh I just need to get my (02:38:23) life ready to do it's like no no no no (02:38:25) that's going to put a batter in your (02:38:26) back like you wouldn't [ __ ] believe (02:38:28) hopefully it's very sad when it doesn't (02:38:30) I've met men people shouldn't have kids (02:38:32) yeah I've met men where they they just (02:38:34) they keep doing the same thing even (02:38:36) after they have children and you're like (02:38:37) oh my god dude you can't do this you're (02:38:39) they want to have them who knows you (02:38:42) know who knows what if people want or if (02:38:44) they think they want and then they have (02:38:46) and then they don't change you know (02:38:48) Louis CK said something really cool once (02:38:51) to me he's like when you have children (02:38:53) he's like you just got to let it change (02:38:54) you just let it change you yeah yeah (02:38:57) don't hold on to who you think you are (02:38:59) and what you think your identity is just (02:39:01) let it let it transform you adjust cuz (02:39:05) everybody adjusts the mom adjust you now (02:39:07) it's not your girlfriend anymore it's (02:39:09) not your wife anymore now it's a mother (02:39:11) she has a child she made a human being (02:39:13) in her body and it's very vulnerable and (02:39:15) she loves it more than anything in this (02:39:17) world anything and it's this crazy (02:39:20) experience that if you don't have and (02:39:22) you're on the outside you look at as (02:39:24) like oh all that responsibility oh [ __ ] (02:39:26) that oh you're tied down oh you got kids (02:39:28) now but it's uh it's another level of (02:39:33) understanding what life really is (02:39:35) because it's this constant cycle of new (02:39:37) people entering into the world and (02:39:39) eventually you will leave this world Y (02:39:41) and hopefully you will leave this world (02:39:43) better because you were here amen yeah (02:39:45) that's true yeah it's the it's the (02:39:48) coolest thing that's ever happened to me (02:39:49) and absolutely has transformed me I was (02:39:51) super excited when you were become a dad (02:39:53) man cuz I knew you you all in on (02:39:57) everything you do you know so you'd be (02:39:59) all in I'm being a dad too which is so (02:40:01) important it's just so important like (02:40:04) it's so weird you're making a life a (02:40:07) human being comes into this world that (02:40:09) didn't exist before you and your wife (02:40:11) had sex and now there's a human being (02:40:14) that's talking to you and you're (02:40:15) teaching them stuff they learn things (02:40:17) you get to see them laugh and giggle and (02:40:19) you get to see him open up Christmas (02:40:20) presents and Screech at excitement oh my (02:40:23) God it's it's all the happiness that you (02:40:26) get from other things just doesn't (02:40:28) compare in comparison yeah it's a (02:40:30) different happiness it's a totally (02:40:32) different happiness it's a and it's also (02:40:35) it's like an understanding of life (02:40:37) itself I I have talked about this before (02:40:39) but I changed the way I think about (02:40:41) people you told me this I think about (02:40:43) everybody has a baby now everybody's a (02:40:46) baby that became a 60-year-old man with (02:40:48) big old wio no you know when they get (02:40:50) those big crazy [ __ ] Gin Blossom (02:40:53) faces like priests yep and you know I (02:40:57) realized like oh this is just this is (02:40:59) this entity at this stage of its Journey (02:41:03) it used to be a baby they used to be (02:41:04) someone's cute little baby boy with a (02:41:06) little little bow tie on everybody (02:41:07) thought it was so cute took a picture of (02:41:09) him now here he is bad breath and (02:41:13) farting big old pot belly hating life (02:41:16) smoking Paul muls yeah he had a lot of (02:41:18) Hope at one point that was a baby yeah (02:41:20) and you know what what what is you have (02:41:23) a lot of Hope but like what is the (02:41:24) impediment to you achieving a fulfilled (02:41:26) life and so many people don't even know (02:41:29) where to start or where to begin or what (02:41:30) what to do or what what what which way (02:41:33) to go yeah and if you're having been (02:41:35) trusting your instincts in your life and (02:41:37) you haven't been taking chances then all (02:41:39) of a sudden you have to take one at like (02:41:40) 35 yeah it's hard man it's hard yeah (02:41:44) that's a muscle you build like endurance (02:41:46) you know you build the muscle of being (02:41:48) able to take chances and and do (02:41:50) difficult things you you build that like (02:41:52) all other muscles all other strengths (02:41:55) and virtues that you have it's (02:41:57) reinforced with use yeah every risk you (02:41:59) take that is successful you get a little (02:42:02) bit more confidence in taking those (02:42:04) risks also you understand what's (02:42:05) required to make this Venture successful (02:42:08) you have to do look at it correctly you (02:42:10) can't be delusional you have to be (02:42:12) objective and you have to do what (02:42:14) actually needs to be done yeah and some (02:42:16) people don't like that responsibility (02:42:18) the responsibility of yeah and so they (02:42:21) sabotage themselves they sabotage their (02:42:22) life because it's easier to fail cuz (02:42:25) you're used to it yeah so you fall right (02:42:27) back into it I'll pick myself back up (02:42:28) again but right now I'm on the heroin (02:42:30) again for a little bit yeah that is the (02:42:33) cool thing (02:42:34) about well yeah I mean failure is not an (02:42:38) option once you have a kid no you have (02:42:41) to figure it out yeah you have to figure (02:42:43) it out also you want the world to be a (02:42:44) safer place because you have very (02:42:45) vulnerable little people yeah you relate (02:42:47) it's uh you you just become like a real (02:42:50) human being it's it's interesting when I (02:42:52) hear people that don't have kids kind of (02:42:54) complain about the world and I'm like oh (02:42:56) you actually don't really understand how (02:42:58) high the stakes get right like it the (02:43:01) way that I relate to every bit of (02:43:03) stimulus has completely changed it's (02:43:05) heightened and reduced the little (02:43:07) frivolous [ __ ] I do not give a flying (02:43:09) [ __ ] about yeah like I really don't care (02:43:12) and then the big ticket things I care (02:43:14) deeply about you know how could they (02:43:16) impact my kid like it's very easy for (02:43:19) people to even with like the vaccine (02:43:21) [ __ ] it's very easy people who don't (02:43:23) have kids to tell you like oh just trust (02:43:24) the doctors whatever the second you have (02:43:26) a (02:43:27) kid it is probably the most terrifying (02:43:30) thing you'll ever do in your entire life (02:43:31) is injecting something (02:43:33) into the most perfect thing you've ever (02:43:36) created and then every single day (02:43:38) wondering and seeing if she's still (02:43:40) smiling and seeing if she's still okay (02:43:42) like and feeling responsible if anything (02:43:44) negative happens and then if you don't (02:43:46) do it feeling responsible if she got (02:43:49) [ __ ] and the measles or Ms or whatever (02:43:51) the [ __ ] it is it I have so much more (02:43:54) empathy and it's something that people (02:43:56) just can't understand because they're (02:43:58) not put in that position and every new (02:44:00) parent that I talk to is concerned about (02:44:02) this [ __ ] every single one so it's like (02:44:05) you have to have a little empathy like (02:44:07) you've created the most perfect thing (02:44:08) you've ever could ever imagine like (02:44:10) nothing comes as close to that and every (02:44:12) decision you make could greatly impact (02:44:14) that person's life so yeah we're going (02:44:16) to be scared if we watch a [ __ ] video (02:44:18) on on the internet that says this thing (02:44:19) is bad for them and don't call us some (02:44:21) [ __ ] quacks just call us like parents (02:44:23) who care for our [ __ ] kids well the (02:44:25) reason the what there's a lot of people (02:44:27) that want to cover up for their (02:44:29) own actions like what they've done or (02:44:32) the the the people that want to say like (02:44:34) all this is exaggerated there are no (02:44:35) vaccine injuries this could have (02:44:36) happened to my child it probably was it (02:44:38) was going to happen anyway it was going (02:44:39) to happen anyway and you want to really (02:44:41) believe that too of course you do (02:44:42) because you don't want to feel like it's (02:44:43) your responsibility also you don't want (02:44:45) to believe that pharmaceutical drug (02:44:46) companies are willing to sell you things (02:44:48) that are going to harm your child and (02:44:51) they are they are they always have been (02:44:53) they always will be they're publicly (02:44:55) traded companies have a responsibility (02:44:56) to their shareholders to make as much (02:44:58) money as possible and the money people (02:45:00) are going to push a bunch of [ __ ] (02:45:02) through that probably shouldn't go (02:45:03) through and they'll tell you you needed (02:45:05) like like when they were vaccinating (02:45:07) kids with covid there is no reason to do (02:45:10) that they knew there was no reason to do (02:45:11) that but they wanted everybody to take (02:45:12) it because that's where the money is and (02:45:14) that's a scary thought that we live in a (02:45:16) world that there's people out there that (02:45:17) would literally sacrifice the health of (02:45:19) children for profit But ultimately (02:45:22) that's that's what they do that's I mean (02:45:24) that's a thing that's been done it will (02:45:26) continue to be done unless something (02:45:27) happens who are the people that do that (02:45:29) why are they not named look at the (02:45:30) Sackler family look at those people so (02:45:32) it's like we know one name we know the (02:45:33) sackers and we don't even know their (02:45:35) first name well you might but like the (02:45:36) average person doesn't like I think that (02:45:38) it'd be a lot different if these (02:45:40) people's names were public record it (02:45:42) would be a lot different if they went to (02:45:43) jail that's the thing they just get (02:45:45) fined they'll get mioni yeah that would (02:45:48) happen right that would happen (02:45:50) immediately they going to get the they (02:45:52) get that Luigi treatment immediately it (02:45:55) it will be that way people don't [ __ ] (02:45:56) around with their kids man it's a (02:45:58) different Luigi was wearing loafers with (02:46:00) his ankle handcuffs and uh he was like (02:46:03) in a in a trial and he he looks so (02:46:05) beautiful he's a handsome guy my wife (02:46:07) and my daughters like he's adorable like (02:46:09) look at him here he's so beautiful he's (02:46:12) so handsome super model yeah I think he (02:46:14) did porn or maybe that was just a (02:46:16) headline that I saw but whatever (02:46:23) but it's is it crazy though that the (02:46:24) Assassin is a good-look guy and becomes (02:46:26) a hero like if he was an ugly fat guy (02:46:28) with a Maga hat on everybody would want (02:46:30) him dead look at him look at him wow (02:46:32) look at those brows beautiful well he's (02:46:34) wearing a bulletproof vest too isn't (02:46:35) that wild (02:46:37) yeah but he's got like a mental health (02:46:40) problem yeah apparently and someone said (02:46:42) that he took acid and cracked yeah I I (02:46:45) heard that but who knows how much of (02:46:47) that well we'll find out when the trial (02:46:49) happens what what the lore is but you (02:46:51) know a broken clock is right two times a (02:46:54) day though it was real weird when people (02:46:57) were like yeah more of that please to me (02:47:00) that's just desperation and you get to (02:47:02) see it manifested it's like if you're (02:47:05) like a really really really really (02:47:07) really rich person with (02:47:08) power you want to make sure the poorest (02:47:10) people have enough to survive the second (02:47:14) they don't feel like they have hope and (02:47:16) they don't feel like they have enough to (02:47:17) survive they start storming your estate (02:47:20) well especially when it talk when you (02:47:22) talk about health care because there's (02:47:24) people whose job is to deny people (02:47:27) Healthcare that deserve it that's (02:47:29) because that's how they save money which (02:47:30) is that's crazy to think of but that's I (02:47:34) mean what is the alternative socialized (02:47:36) medicine the problem with that is it (02:47:37) doesn't incentivize doctors to be the (02:47:39) best I want my doctor to drive a [ __ ] (02:47:41) Porsche I want my doctor to have a 911 (02:47:44) turbo and a nice watch it's no you're (02:47:46) right cuz you want the smartest people (02:47:47) to be the doctors you don't want them (02:47:48) running hedphones (02:47:49) like there's a lot of probably smart (02:47:51) people running hedge funds I don't want (02:47:52) them doing that [ __ ] like I want them (02:47:54) fixing diseases you know I and if (02:47:56) there's not enough money in it yeah (02:47:57) they're going to go to the Head hedge (02:47:58) fund [ __ ] which is meaningless yeah so (02:48:01) it's like I it is a tricky problem how (02:48:04) do you create a you know a system that (02:48:06) incentivizes the most brilliant people (02:48:08) to be in positions where they help us (02:48:10) all but how do you make sure that the (02:48:11) nefarious actors are not finding ways to (02:48:14) squeeze probably the most vulnerable how (02:48:16) do we eliminate nefarious actors from (02:48:18) the world or do we ever you can't (02:48:21) they're there and they will pop into (02:48:24) these positions and I think they're (02:48:27) there also to help you appreciate non- (02:48:29) nefarious people yeah like we wouldn't (02:48:31) know good right unless there is bad yeah (02:48:35) that's real that's a good perspective to (02:48:36) have on bad that's a that's the good and (02:48:38) evil struggle forever that's the yin and (02:48:41) the Yang that's it all it's like that's (02:48:43) how the world moves forward that's how (02:48:45) it advances it protects itself against (02:48:47) evil then evil tries to find ways (02:48:49) through the [ __ ] cracks and you (02:48:50) develop better antivirus (02:48:55) software it's a simulation a little bit (02:48:58) man it might be it's going to be so (02:49:01) maybe it already is and maybe it always (02:49:03) was maybe it always was and if it's a (02:49:06) simulation once it can be a simulation (02:49:08) twice so if we can create the simulation (02:49:12) and we were created as a simulation that (02:49:14) means that we could be like the 20th (02:49:17) version of it and we're probably about (02:49:20) to create a way better one with AI (02:49:22) that's probably what AI is AI is (02:49:24) probably the god of the simulation we (02:49:26) probably lock that [ __ ] in turn (02:49:29) it on then it figures out how to do (02:49:30) everything do you have any concern about (02:49:32) AI oh yeah yeah yeah Elon says there's a (02:49:35) 20% chance everything goes sideways but (02:49:36) an 80% chance it's an overall net good (02:49:38) for Humanity but 20% chance like we're (02:49:41) [ __ ] that's a high number that's not a (02:49:43) good number I don't like that if I'm (02:49:45) playing rushing roulette I got 10 (02:49:47) Chambers and I spin that [ __ ] I don't (02:49:49) like there's two bullets in there yeah I (02:49:51) don't like that that makes me nervous (02:49:54) but uh I also think you've got a lot of (02:49:56) like really good smart people trying to (02:50:00) make sure that at the very least the (02:50:03) people here invented before the people (02:50:05) in China which I think is probably (02:50:07) important like whoever whoever launches (02:50:10) the God first is going to be in charge (02:50:12) of a lot of stuff yeah it's gonna get (02:50:14) [ __ ] very strange Andrew Schultz it's (02:50:17) already very strange it's going to get (02:50:19) even (02:50:20) stranger we'll be here to enjoy it yes (02:50:23) sir we'll be make fun of it my brother (02:50:25) it's always a good time to sit with you (02:50:26) I love you dog I love you to death (02:50:27) you're the best you um tell everybody (02:50:30) what's going on oh life is on Netflix (02:50:33) right now so go check it out man and uh (02:50:36) yeah go check it out also go check out (02:50:37) Derek poon's uh look at that stash son (02:50:41) yeah so I think we're I think we're (02:50:43) today we're number two you know maybe (02:50:45) after this we beat Kate Hudson and we (02:50:47) get Kate h got me man what day does um (02:50:51) dck come out April 19 April I think 16th (02:50:54) yeah yeah so make sure you check that (02:50:55) out I got to get him in here oh yeah (02:50:57) he's just the [ __ ] bro he was killing us (02:50:58) last night he said that uh the greatest (02:51:01) art ever created is uh Harry (02:51:04) Potter and we go like better than he's (02:51:07) like he goes yes if it's the most (02:51:09) consumed it's the best and we're like (02:51:10) what about the Bible he goes ain't (02:51:12) nobody read that (02:51:15) [ __ ] he goes he goes he goes ain't (02:51:18) nobody read that [ __ ] hey go he goes you (02:51:20) might have read like part of it but you (02:51:22) didn't read the whole Bible he goes (02:51:23) Nobody stopping at book three for bro he (02:51:27) was cooking last night but yo go check (02:51:29) out his don't tell comedy he's very (02:51:31) funny and and a great person absolutely (02:51:33) all right I love you brother love you (02:51:35) everybody (02:51:39) [Music] (02:51:39) [Applause] (02:51:44) [Music]

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