The Charlie Kirk Interview | EP. 70 (YouTube Video Transcript)

(00:00:00) Your YouTube transcript will appear here (00:00:00) it's far more important to have your (00:00:02) children have self-control than (00:00:04) self-esteem oh my do you ever feel (00:00:06) guilty when you're just annihilating (00:00:07) some child in college life we as (00:00:09) Christians are called to go into the (00:00:11) public Arena to correct error with truth (00:00:14) what is the worst case scenario in your (00:00:16) mind this could God forbid go here (00:00:17) nuclear war with Russia really yes well (00:00:20) you guys did do your research are you (00:00:21) trying to run for presiden you know what (00:00:23) I would love I would love to be a very (00:00:24) popular radio host podcast host great (00:00:27) father great husband and live a very (00:00:28) happy life where I can run a major (00:00:30) organization influences the country and (00:00:31) I could pick up the phone the president (00:00:33) answers in the first ring that would be (00:00:34) awesome but I feel like you're doing (00:00:35) that right now so maybe I'm living the (00:00:37) life (00:00:42) I'm it's not often I sit down with (00:00:44) somebody and they say something that (00:00:44) makes me (00:00:48) think you give me something to think DN (00:00:51) I had a lot of fun on this (00:00:53) interview hey before we get into today's (00:00:55) episode I just want to let you guys know (00:00:56) Phoenix August 1st the show's almost (00:00:59) sold out so if you're in a and you want (00:01:00) to come see me the George jeno Show (00:01:02) podcast please please please hit the (00:01:04) link in the description get your tickets (00:01:05) now it's my first time performing in (00:01:07) Arizona and I'm so excited to say that I (00:01:09) think this is going to be my first (00:01:10) soldout show so please do not wait go (00:01:13) get your uh tickets now I just want to (00:01:15) say right before you even start you are (00:01:16) so much taller I have heard that before (00:01:18) dude you are tall you're you play (00:01:20) basketball yeah I used too okay good are (00:01:22) you good I I mean I'm not like Colgate (00:01:24) good but I was okay in high school what (00:01:26) does collegate mean collegate so like to (00:01:28) play at the Collegiate level so you have (00:01:30) a fantastic vocabulary oh is that right (00:01:32) yeah because when you argue with people (00:01:34) I have to pause and then Google some of (00:01:35) the words I'm being honest I'm being (00:01:37) honest I can't lie I just go wow I not (00:01:40) only do I learn from your perspective (00:01:41) but I learn that's very sweet thank you (00:01:43) well I I love the work you do as well (00:01:45) it's very very important appr watching (00:01:46) you for years so thank you thank you so (00:01:48) much it's such an honor um well you know (00:01:50) thanks for coming on the show I'm very (00:01:51) excited this is shaa jelica my co-host (00:01:54) yes welcome thank you for and uh today (00:01:56) we have Charlie Kirk welcome back to the (00:01:58) George jenko show uh I love I love (00:02:02) podcasts where I know I'm going to walk (00:02:04) away learning like a great load of (00:02:06) information that I probably didn't know (00:02:08) and from the looks of it doing the (00:02:10) research that I did to to learn where (00:02:12) you came from from making sure a cookie (00:02:14) goes from 25 cents to 50 going back to (00:02:17) 25 good that's deep research there I go (00:02:19) deep man that is that is really deep I (00:02:22) just want to make sure I just want to (00:02:23) make sure you just going all the way (00:02:26) back I I could tell that I haven't told (00:02:28) that story in a long time yeah I would (00:02:29) love actually my first question because (00:02:32) my first question is is that where your (00:02:34) your hunger of everything came from (00:02:35) you're like oh I could actually make a (00:02:36) difference here well that I'll tell you (00:02:39) the story but it was it predated that (00:02:41) but I've always loved politics I've (00:02:42) loved the country uh so what you're (00:02:43) talking about is a rather silly um but (00:02:47) very serious thing I got involved in (00:02:49) where when I was a senior in high school (00:02:51) they would I went to Wheeling High (00:02:53) School and one of the most favorite (00:02:55) things everyone loved was the they had (00:02:56) these warm chocolate chip cookies that (00:02:58) they would make and they were 2 cents Al (00:03:00) at high school and all of a sudden (00:03:01) senior year they go to 50 cents and who (00:03:04) can't have that doubling they big (00:03:05) cookies yeah they're they're gooey and (00:03:08) you know what I'm talking about yeah and (00:03:10) were you a fan of the cookies or I love (00:03:11) them just want make sure now to be clear (00:03:13) I also have like a gluten intolerance so (00:03:15) I shouldn't be eating them but like but (00:03:16) it's still it's you know it's my hands I (00:03:19) can't even close if I was in France I (00:03:20) probably could have them because they (00:03:21) they don't Poison the Well exactly and (00:03:23) they don't spray like we do pesticides (00:03:25) all that nonsense so I doubling from 25 (00:03:28) cents to 50 cents like we've grown a (00:03:29) custom that under Joe Biden with (00:03:31) inflation and stuff but this is way (00:03:34) before and so I I I was outraged about (00:03:38) this and so I got a group of friends (00:03:40) together and it turns out another school (00:03:41) across the way at Buffalo gr Grove High (00:03:43) School also had the same thing so we (00:03:44) started this Facebook group that was a (00:03:46) total joke called students against (00:03:48) cookie (00:03:49) inflation nice and it kind of took on a (00:03:52) life of its own it was bipartisan it got (00:03:54) written up in all the local papers and (00:03:55) stuff and in some ways that was like a (00:03:57) precursor to your big door well yeah to (00:04:00) now this thing to actually try to save (00:04:02) the civilization I I love that because (00:04:05) okay so I actually I just want to take a (00:04:07) just even a step before that where did (00:04:09) you in your life in your character (00:04:11) development were like I'm very good at (00:04:16) explaining my portion of the POV and I (00:04:20) could help other people understand what (00:04:21) they're missing out from their (00:04:23) perspective at what age were you like (00:04:25) I'm really good at doing this that (00:04:26) that's a great question I so you grow up (00:04:28) you don't always know your skills that's (00:04:30) one of the things why I hate about our (00:04:31) education system is that almost everyone (00:04:33) has a skill rarely do we a good do a (00:04:35) good job of identifying it and telling a (00:04:37) young person you're actually good at (00:04:38) that thing and instead we try to put (00:04:41) them in different boxes widgets and (00:04:43) boxes exactly so I I never I thought (00:04:46) everyone was good at explaining stuff I (00:04:47) thought that just like public speaking (00:04:48) was just part of the human norm and I (00:04:51) was never in speech or debate I was too (00:04:53) busy playing football or basketball I (00:04:55) did everything you possibly could I was (00:04:56) involved in everything played (00:04:57) instruments you know marching band Eagle (00:04:59) Scout and and all of a sudden I'd be in (00:05:01) class my teachers would be like you kind (00:05:03) of have a gift for this thing I was like (00:05:04) what are you talking about they're like (00:05:05) explaining and talking off the cuff and (00:05:07) in class what age if you know I me it (00:05:09) would be like freshman in high school (00:05:10) sophomore in high school and I I always (00:05:13) gravitated towards politics gravitated (00:05:14) towards dialogue and gravitated towards (00:05:17) debate or anything that was mildly (00:05:20) controversial or required explaining or (00:05:22) in-depth super hard dating you huh cuz (00:05:24) you could just win every argument oh (00:05:25) yeah exactly (00:05:26) well my my wife wins every argument for (00:05:29) the record okay good for she happy life (00:05:32) that's right um happy spouse happy house (00:05:34) is what we say so um yeah so then I I (00:05:37) realized that I had a gift for it and a (00:05:39) skill I started to then speak locally (00:05:41) when I was still in high school at a lot (00:05:43) of different uh Conservative Republican (00:05:46) political outfits and they kept on (00:05:47) inviting me back and uh now passed away (00:05:50) individual who really was one of my (00:05:52) first mentors Bill Montgomery he was 72 (00:05:54) at the time I was 18 he was the one that (00:05:55) was like hey you have a gift you should (00:05:57) go speak across the country and not go (00:05:59) to college I was like yeah that's (00:06:00) hilarious okay and actually I would love (00:06:02) to just highlight that cuz when I did (00:06:04) see this it was kind of fun to watch (00:06:08) another person in your shoes try to pour (00:06:11) his wisdom into you and you were in the (00:06:13) same shoes of the people that you talk (00:06:15) to on campus nah buddy you're being (00:06:17) weird I'm going to college yeah no of (00:06:19) course because I mean I grew up in the (00:06:21) suburbs of Chicago and like only drug (00:06:23) addicts didn't go to college everyone (00:06:25) went to college and I mean it it's like (00:06:27) the mark of failure if you don't go to (00:06:29) four year University at upper middle (00:06:31) class white Suburban Society is that or (00:06:34) or or Union work right yes and no I (00:06:37) where I grew up like that again what I (00:06:39) mean by that is that you as a parent (00:06:42) culturally you are considered to be a (00:06:44) failure if your kid does not go to Fore (00:06:46) College I feel like up until a few years (00:06:48) ago I mean some parents still might see (00:06:51) that to be the cas of course no and I (00:06:52) I've become a Pioneer in the opposite (00:06:54) direction and so it just the idea of not (00:06:57) going to college was so foreign to me (00:06:59) and Bill's like no I I think you (00:07:01) shouldn't go to college you could go (00:07:03) start this amazing movement this whole (00:07:04) thing and I had some ideas to do that (00:07:06) and he really poured into me and he's (00:07:07) like you should just go speak and I just (00:07:09) not only am do I have a gift for (00:07:11) communicating if I may say so but I also (00:07:14) love it and so that's kind of like the (00:07:16) intersection I love explaining stuff I (00:07:19) love teaching and I love learning even (00:07:20) more than that so teaching what I then (00:07:23) learn is I think really fulfilling so (00:07:25) did you already have the fundamental (00:07:28) idea for Turning Point USA before you (00:07:30) met him or did you kind of develop that (00:07:32) together yes and no I mean I had a I I (00:07:35) saw a problem and the problem was that I (00:07:38) grew up my political Journey was in the (00:07:41) midst of the Obama craze in Chicago (00:07:45) where his campaign was headquartered it (00:07:46) was his home state he was the senator (00:07:48) from Illinois his it was all of the the (00:07:52) pandemonium was headquartered there and (00:07:54) I even got caught up in some of it when (00:07:56) I was you know late 8th grade early 9th (00:07:58) grade when he really was coming to (00:07:59) political (00:08:00) Fame and at that moment it was like a (00:08:03) fever pitch where as someone who was (00:08:06) generally conservative I realized this (00:08:08) generation Millennials is going to be (00:08:10) the most Progressive generation in (00:08:11) history if we don't do something about (00:08:13) this and I was completely underwhelmed (00:08:15) by the conservative movement's lack of (00:08:18) reaching out to young people explaining (00:08:19) these ideas organizing them making it (00:08:21) fun making it exciting making it (00:08:23) uplifting and so I saw a great need and (00:08:26) then um I had an idea to do something (00:08:28) but I I didn't know what an organiz (00:08:30) ation was I didn't know how to deposit (00:08:32) checks or do payroll or any of that (00:08:34) stuff uh so I needed to get help and (00:08:36) guidance and wisdom in that regard did (00:08:38) you have a mentor yeah bill was one of (00:08:40) them and um some other you know Mike (00:08:42) Miller who's still around and he's uh a (00:08:44) board member of mine and my parents were (00:08:46) very supportive don't get me wrong it's (00:08:47) just it was a foreign concept for them (00:08:50) to hear that you wouldn't go immediately (00:08:52) to four-year college and mind you it (00:08:53) wasn't that I just wanted to go to (00:08:54) four-year College I wanted to go to West (00:08:56) Point so my whole life was trying to get (00:08:57) to one of the hardest schools to get to (00:08:59) and didn't didn't work out you know and (00:09:00) God has a plan for all of us amen and uh (00:09:03) praise God that I didn't get in it was (00:09:04) the best thing ever and I just was left (00:09:06) with lackluster options of colleges that (00:09:09) I wasn't that crazy about I decided to (00:09:10) take a gap year and it's been 11 Gap (00:09:12) years you know as a (00:09:14) communicator it's you represent more (00:09:17) than just what your opinion is you (00:09:19) represent Christ and that could be (00:09:21) daunting it's a big word I wanted to use (00:09:24) it for this thank you uh and it it could (00:09:27) be daunting right and so what do you do (00:09:30) to make sure that you're representing (00:09:32) Christ but you sometimes you have to (00:09:33) like roll up your sleeve and get into (00:09:34) these brawls or dog fights mentally do (00:09:37) you ever feel guilty when you're just (00:09:39) annihilating some child on in college (00:09:41) like I I have but I only feel guilty if (00:09:45) they ask for the well if I believe if (00:09:46) I'm being unjust Fair because God loves (00:09:50) justice so you so you grow right and (00:09:52) does it ever like does your past (00:09:54) mistakes help you like you're about to (00:09:56) and then you remember somebody's face (00:09:58) and how you felt afterwards so it (00:09:59) changes the way you you talk to them so (00:10:02) there's a couple components to this the (00:10:03) first is when I was more of their peer (00:10:06) when I was 22 or 23 I I felt No Remorse (00:10:08) because I was talking peer-to peer got (00:10:10) it now that I'm 30 with two kids and a (00:10:13) wife and run a major organization and (00:10:15) all this I try to be more like a teacher (00:10:17) than a peer and so that's a different (00:10:20) role however if somebody comes up and (00:10:22) they are guns of Blazing insulting my (00:10:24) intelligence as you've seen the videos (00:10:26) or trying to and they'll say you're rude (00:10:29) correct so funny then I I that is I I (00:10:33) find more um more justification to be (00:10:36) able to engage in that combat however I (00:10:39) think it's important that Christ is all (00:10:42) Grace and all truth and so if I'm (00:10:44) contesting in the public arena for truth (00:10:46) and it really ticks somebody off then (00:10:49) I'm in no way defying the wants or (00:10:51) wishes of Christ or his word and (00:10:55) understand that we as Christians are (00:10:58) called to go into the public Arena to (00:11:00) correct error with truth yep so I go to (00:11:04) college campuses and there's a lot of (00:11:05) error we're all Sinners we all live in (00:11:07) error the problem with college campuses (00:11:09) though is that it calls error truth so (00:11:12) the entire institution is is absent and (00:11:16) outside of and is in contradiction with (00:11:19) God's law and God's perfect commands for (00:11:21) our life so I go into these environments (00:11:24) and I will say things that are (00:11:25) completely heterodox to how they view (00:11:28) the world for example I believe that (00:11:30) people should save themselves from (00:11:31) marriage and I believe that marriage is (00:11:33) a beautiful thing and I believe that (00:11:34) having children is a moral good for (00:11:36) society and I believe that biggest (00:11:38) blessing oh without a doubt and I (00:11:39) believe all these different I go through (00:11:41) my beliefs and it's off it's usually met (00:11:43) with criticism but no I mean I I not (00:11:45) here my friend no but I I I have of (00:11:47) course made plenty of mistakes and I (00:11:49) have handled situations in ways that I (00:11:51) wish I wouldn't have but the fruits of (00:11:54) the spirit are love joy love joy peace (00:11:56) patience kindness goodness gentleness (00:11:58) patience and selfcontrol the last of (00:11:59) which is self-control which is the (00:12:00) hardest for me and so without the fruits (00:12:03) of the spirit being born new and being (00:12:05) transformed as Christ as king and as our (00:12:07) Lord and savior I would have no (00:12:08) self-control which is hilarious because (00:12:11) it's one of the top compliments I (00:12:12) receive like wow Charlie how do you (00:12:14) control yourself I I don't actually it's (00:12:16) the Holy Spirit if it was just me it (00:12:18) would be it was my (00:12:20) flesh that wouldn't be an enjoyable (00:12:22) video to watch it'd be your emotions (00:12:23) right be that's deep Bro that's deep I (00:12:26) actually I consider myself a man to be (00:12:28) in the lobby like feel like you're out (00:12:30) in the front line and you're fighting (00:12:31) for your POV I've noticed through (00:12:34) conversations with uh people like (00:12:36) yourselves or Candace Owens or even (00:12:38) Patrick B David I realized that there's (00:12:40) a growth place in their career and I am (00:12:43) growing right now so I will I I hold a (00:12:46) lot of my perspective back right now (00:12:49) because I'm still growing my knowledge (00:12:51) to make sure because I have a platform I (00:12:52) can't just go out and speak but the (00:12:54) things I am confident about I do (00:12:56) speak that being said when you go out (00:12:59) and speak your truth it's overwhelming (00:13:02) how do you deal with when people twist (00:13:04) your words and they take your character (00:13:07) that you're trying so hard to walk in (00:13:09) and they display you as this piece of (00:13:11) [ __ ] and now you're like oh dude now I (00:13:13) have to every day go ahead and try to (00:13:15) show these people who I truly am and (00:13:17) then I'll be able to because I the truth (00:13:20) is you can never convince somebody Your (00:13:22) Truth until you could convince them that (00:13:23) you love them yeah and so just one thing (00:13:26) and I totally agree with all that I (00:13:28) don't believe I have a truth I just (00:13:29) believe there is the truth and so it's (00:13:31) not Charlie Kirk's truth and you have (00:13:33) Charlie Kirk's experiences but there's (00:13:35) only one truth right and so that that's (00:13:38) that's a very important thing we could (00:13:39) go into that deeper if you'd like but (00:13:42) I'm I'm merely a communicator and a (00:13:44) vessel for so that's why you're learning (00:13:45) how to like your hey it's not me go take (00:13:48) it up I mean I'm just I'm just flesh and (00:13:50) Bone but more importantly I'm a soul and (00:13:54) that soul is accountable to one being (00:13:57) one being yep and really two temporarily (00:14:00) cuz I also your wife but you know one (00:14:02) what you should be accountable to your (00:14:03) spouse because that is a spiritual union (00:14:05) like your church exactly like like the (00:14:07) bride of Christ and Christ come together (00:14:09) that is what marriage is supposed to be (00:14:11) but I I mean this in the most it used to (00:14:14) it used to impact me I mean this in the (00:14:15) most serious way I literally don't care (00:14:18) about what people say about me I I (00:14:19) couldn't care how long did it take you (00:14:21) to get to that point years y it takes (00:14:23) years and you you grow a thicker skin (00:14:27) and or you start to realize what really (00:14:29) matters in life I mean I've had an (00:14:31) unbelievably blessed life uh been doing (00:14:33) this now it'll be 12 years on June 5th (00:14:35) such a young man to do it so young yeah (00:14:37) so praise God I mean I've been all (00:14:39) across the world I've met with world (00:14:40) leaders I've flown in Air Force One got (00:14:42) to know a president hopefully he becomes (00:14:44) president again we get you know I I have (00:14:46) amazing family the podcast Turning Point (00:14:48) USA is all that stuff and so you you (00:14:50) experience that and you're like what (00:14:52) actually matters what matters is your (00:14:53) relationship with the Divine your (00:14:56) relationship with your family your kids (00:14:57) and maybe a close collection of friends (00:14:59) and your relationship with the truth and (00:15:02) you could decide to lie all the time (00:15:04) then you become a tortured individual (00:15:06) and you know those people you just turn (00:15:07) on television they're constantly lying (00:15:10) and they just become like disfigured (00:15:11) either emotionally spiritually or (00:15:13) physically CU When you lie I believe (00:15:15) you're actually committing suicide of (00:15:16) the soul I really believe that and so (00:15:19) you tell the truth it's awfully (00:15:20) liberating it doesn't matter what people (00:15:21) say about you 100% because you're living (00:15:23) in your truth and so at any moment in (00:15:25) any given time there isn't anything that (00:15:28) anybody can say that's going to throw (00:15:29) Off Your Rocker or it's going to make (00:15:31) you feel like you need to fight for (00:15:32) something that you know might not be (00:15:34) true inside you know what I mean like (00:15:36) you have peace every day yes and and I (00:15:39) believe peace that transcends all (00:15:40) understanding which is exactly what the (00:15:41) scriptures say I was just (00:15:44) wow very well very well done I honestly (00:15:47) am very proud of you that was exactly (00:15:49) where I was going to go I said it seemed (00:15:50) to me that you fell upon a verse where (00:15:52) your peace relies on an understanding (00:15:56) let's dissect that verse right so it's (00:15:58) Christ because that is peace Shalom that (00:16:01) transcends all understand that means (00:16:02) it's beyond our reason so that reason is (00:16:04) not the highest faculty of man and this (00:16:07) is why Christianity is a little bit at (00:16:08) odds with modernity and postmodernism (00:16:11) which is that we think that everything (00:16:13) must be able to be explained through (00:16:15) equations and data and science I love (00:16:16) all those things I use them a lot but (00:16:18) actually our spiritual life at times (00:16:20) supersedes reason that's why we need (00:16:22) Faith exactly and without fa Faith (00:16:25) really quite honestly is the true Mark (00:16:27) of a Christian life because (00:16:29) it requires requires a little bit of a (00:16:31) leap it requires a belief in something (00:16:34) that cannot always be necessarily proven (00:16:36) through the quantitative scientific (00:16:37) method now part of it can be God has (00:16:39) given us crumbs and pieces of evidence (00:16:41) he's given us his word which is perfect (00:16:43) and complete so yeah and you can you can (00:16:46) be completely nourished and satisfied (00:16:50) spiritually just with Jesus amen I agree (00:16:53) if we take that light that's hanging (00:16:54) above you away from this room it gets (00:16:56) darker I think this country got darker (00:16:58) when we took God away from this schools (00:16:59) and we took God away from the country a (00:17:01) lot of people might not agree with me (00:17:03) but if you want to look at what's going (00:17:06) on I would assume that there's less love (00:17:08) and if you read the scripture God is (00:17:10) love correct yeah I mean but let's just (00:17:12) I mean even if they don't agree with you (00:17:13) well if they don't agree with you then (00:17:14) they're wrong because it's a fact that (00:17:17) as America has become more secular which (00:17:20) literally means without God or away from (00:17:23) ethical monotheism at least right so the (00:17:25) belief that there is one God and that (00:17:26) there's a way for you to live and that (00:17:28) we are all descendant from the same God (00:17:30) yeah so you think about a couple things (00:17:32) about monotheism which is different than (00:17:34) Pagan polytheism different than Hinduism (00:17:36) different than uh Native American (00:17:38) paganism is that the first contention of (00:17:41) monotheism is that all of us from (00:17:43) different walks of life descend from the (00:17:45) same being that is human equality in a (00:17:48) nutshell that's where you get natural (00:17:49) human rights that's where you get the (00:17:51) idea that it's not okay to kill babies (00:17:53) and that everyone gets Free Speech (00:17:54) rights and that you can't just take (00:17:55) other people's stuff so that's an (00:17:57) amazing Proclamation but secondly this (00:17:59) idea as we have become more secular (00:18:02) remove prayer from our schools we remove (00:18:03) the Ten Commandments from our schools (00:18:05) then something replaces that there is no (00:18:08) such thing as an atheist I think atheism (00:18:10) is a SC up put forward by the Satan (00:18:12) literally which is that everybody has a (00:18:15) god they worship and that is why you go (00:18:17) through the decalog The Ten Commandments (00:18:19) the first of which the Commandments it (00:18:20) goes with I am the Lord your God who has (00:18:21) delivered you from the house of bondage (00:18:22) of Egypt not have idols and then well (00:18:24) yeah exactly so the first one you have (00:18:25) no other gods before me have no Idols so (00:18:28) let's think about that no other God (00:18:29) before me you might think oh what an (00:18:30) outdated commandment doesn't matter (00:18:33) everybody has something you worship are (00:18:35) made to worship yeah exactly and so what (00:18:37) are you worshiping you might be (00:18:38) worshiping the god of self the god of (00:18:40) narcissism the God of Sex the God of (00:18:42) Pleasure the god of Tik Tok likes the (00:18:43) god of follows the god of the bank (00:18:45) account the god of environmentalism the (00:18:47) god of wokeism the god of cidian (00:18:50) fanaticism the god of you must get your (00:18:51) booster there is something that you (00:18:53) prioritize above all and what that thing (00:18:55) is is what you call God and so what we (00:18:57) have done is we removed the idea of (00:18:59) biblical God a God that loves you and a (00:19:01) God that judges you and a God that tells (00:19:02) you how to live with all these (00:19:04) counterfeit pagan gods and we see what's (00:19:06) happened to the west and the West is (00:19:07) committing suicide because of it when (00:19:09) you're standing in colleges and you're (00:19:11) talking to these children the same way (00:19:12) that Peter and Paul would talk against (00:19:15) people and some would agree and some (00:19:17) would not agree I stumbled upon this in (00:19:20) the scripture and I want have to discuss (00:19:22) this with you the disciples turned to (00:19:24) them uh turned to Jesus and says why do (00:19:25) you speak to them in Parables and he (00:19:27) says because you were given access to (00:19:29) understand and then through uh another (00:19:31) scripture when he breaks bread and the (00:19:33) disciples realize that Jesus came back (00:19:34) and that it's him it was the Daily Bread (00:19:36) so I connected this that the gospel is (00:19:39) hard to read sometimes and it's almost (00:19:41) impossible unless I have the Holy Spirit (00:19:43) help me understand this yeah that is the (00:19:44) advocate that's correct so when I know (00:19:47) that I'm not smart enough to understand (00:19:48) this and I need the wisdom of God to (00:19:50) pour into me and have the Holy Spirit (00:19:52) pour more for me to even open up my eyes (00:19:54) and ears I go into conversations asking (00:19:57) God to open up my ears my eyes so I (00:20:00) could have a better conversation with (00:20:01) Charlie do you do this with the students (00:20:03) around you do you pray that well I pray (00:20:05) for wisdom right and so in the Book of (00:20:07) James it says pray for wisdom and God (00:20:09) will give it to you generously that's (00:20:10) James 1 15 and look it's very important (00:20:13) what you're saying is that remember (00:20:14) Christ said at the end of The Book of (00:20:15) Matthew I will depart you but I will (00:20:17) leave you with the advocate amen I will (00:20:19) leave you and and what we just (00:20:21) celebrated in Pentecost which again is (00:20:24) it well not again but in Jewish (00:20:25) tradition is 50 50 days post Passover (00:20:28) that's where we get Pentecost from is (00:20:31) all of a sudden we saw the completion of (00:20:34) the Tower of Babel when God scattered (00:20:36) and Confused the nations in Genesis 11 (00:20:38) my people sorry about that sorry about (00:20:39) that in in Babylonia yes yeah thanks for (00:20:42) that you're you're you're a descendant (00:20:44) of nimrod uh in Genesis 11 I will make a (00:20:47) make a name to myself it's actually the (00:20:49) city of Babel but that's an interesting (00:20:51) Babel means god confuses in Hebrew so (00:20:53) Babel God confuses so in in then the (00:20:56) book of Acts we get the Holy Spirit and (00:20:58) the Holy Spirit is the advocate the Holy (00:21:00) Spirit guides you to contextualize the (00:21:03) scriptures to it is that nudge it's that (00:21:05) wink it's that thing where all of a (00:21:07) sudden you're like I don't have a good (00:21:08) feeling about this now uh there's (00:21:10) unclean spirits they say it's a gut (00:21:12) feeling just like it like makes sense (00:21:14) like literally for me for years you know (00:21:16) following Christ following God's path (00:21:18) doing what I felt like he deemed right (00:21:20) for me but it wasn't until I asked him (00:21:23) to give me the understanding and the (00:21:24) wisdom to really open my eyes it wasn't (00:21:27) until I had that prayer that then it (00:21:29) finally clicked and then I went wait (00:21:31) Jesus did what because he gave me the (00:21:33) wisdom to understand you got you got you (00:21:35) got granted access but it's an (00:21:37) invitation and this is why it's called (00:21:38) the good news you could ask that's why (00:21:40) he says if you have eyes and want to see (00:21:43) and ears and want to hear amen sorry I (00:21:45) didn't mean to interrupt you no no (00:21:46) you're you're perfect so the answer is (00:21:48) your question you asked me is yes before (00:21:50) I go on a college campus I my prayer is (00:21:52) very simple God used me for your will (00:21:54) amen because there's a plan above us all (00:21:56) God is Sovereign above all and the (00:21:59) capacity and ability of our agency or (00:22:00) action is very debatable so what is (00:22:03) God's plan when I go on a college campus (00:22:04) I just believe I will only tell truth I (00:22:06) will not compromise and I'll love on the (00:22:10) Lost how does your heart feel when (00:22:14) people ask you about war and they ask (00:22:16) you about the struggles of man but then (00:22:20) if you're knowledgeable about the gospel (00:22:22) you read that this it it says it shall (00:22:24) happen like what does it do something to (00:22:26) your heart knowing that you want to (00:22:27) stand and make a difference but then you (00:22:29) read the gospel and you're like well I (00:22:30) just I don't know what to do cuz it says (00:22:32) this has to be done for the prophecy to (00:22:34) be fulfilled so like is are we going to (00:22:37) be able to make a difference or is this (00:22:38) a spiritual war that we're just here on (00:22:41) this ride I I believe all I mean it (00:22:42) depends on what God's will is for your (00:22:44) life but here I the answers I don't know (00:22:46) and I don't really care for the answer (00:22:48) all I care about is what I do and what I (00:22:50) do is I fight and I know what God calls (00:22:52) of us so the specific teachings of (00:22:54) Christ is Go Make Disciples of all (00:22:55) Nations I'm trying my best to do that (00:22:58) and I'm trying to do it first on This (00:22:59) Nation CU this nation impacts Every (00:23:01) Other Nation on the planet you cannot (00:23:03) impact the world without impacting (00:23:04) America period that's the way that God (00:23:06) has designed the universe in this (00:23:08) particular being that as America Goes (00:23:10) the World goes uh Jesus called us to (00:23:12) love children go Jesus called us to tell (00:23:14) truth God Jesus called us um to contest (00:23:17) in the Public Square for his purposes so (00:23:21) I I care about what God thinks of me (00:23:23) it's a very important distinction though (00:23:25) because it is tempting when you see the (00:23:29) and the Miracles of God both in your (00:23:30) life and in the scriptures and this is (00:23:33) Dennis Prager who has said this I always (00:23:34) try to give attribution where it's due (00:23:36) to look at God as a Celestial Butler to (00:23:39) say God uh I could really use an extra (00:23:41) bonus at work can you please make that (00:23:43) work my current belief and I think it's (00:23:47) the right way of looking is I'm far more (00:23:48) interested in what God wants of me than (00:23:51) what I want of from God and what God (00:23:54) wants from me is a life Fighting For (00:23:55) Truth John F Kennedy said don't ask what (00:23:57) your country could do for you but what (00:23:59) you could do for very similar but so (00:24:01) you're doing that with god well I think (00:24:02) we should all do that with God Amen I (00:24:04) agree his will is greater than ours yes (00:24:06) and but also he gives us certain ways to (00:24:09) live he gives us for example he to to (00:24:12) the first commandment is to be fruitful (00:24:14) and multiply if you just follow the ten (00:24:16) commandments which Jesus repeated every (00:24:18) single one of the Ten Commandments (00:24:19) outside of honoring the Shabbat which I (00:24:20) still think we should do but that's a (00:24:22) separate topic if you just follow the (00:24:23) ten commandments it's a lot harder than (00:24:25) you might think not coveting alone can (00:24:27) you flip through Instagram with without (00:24:29) coveting I bet most people can't I can't (00:24:31) I can't go to the entire portal of (00:24:34) social media is designed to violate the (00:24:36) final commandment Thou shalt not covet (00:24:38) your whole existence online Thou shalt (00:24:41) not commit adultery Thou shalt not steal (00:24:42) might say oh I never steal never steal (00:24:44) somebody's ideas without attribution (00:24:46) that's why I'm so careful to mention (00:24:48) Dennis prager's idea so if I would have (00:24:49) just said oh I have this idea of a (00:24:51) Celestial Butler I would have just (00:24:52) stolen his idea he he worked for years (00:24:54) to come up with that concept or Thou (00:24:57) shalt not give false testimony against (00:24:59) your neighbor people do that to get rid (00:25:00) of their opponents like you well right (00:25:03) and so we never tell a lie I mean they (00:25:05) say average a human being will tell 20 (00:25:07) White Lies a day oh yeah I'll be there (00:25:09) in 5 minutes you know it's 10 minutes or (00:25:11) oh yeah I'm going to go pick that up so (00:25:13) just the Ten Commandments alone God (00:25:15) gives us clear instructions and here's (00:25:17) the kicker why the first commandment as (00:25:20) I mentioned is that God says I'm the (00:25:21) Lord your God who delivered you out of (00:25:23) the house of bondage of Egypt God wants (00:25:25) us to live free and you can only live (00:25:28) freely in the state of liberty if you (00:25:30) have order and God's law specifically (00:25:34) The Ten Commandments is the order that I (00:25:36) think that we have forgotten in the west (00:25:38) it's what built the West what's built (00:25:40) the most free prosperous happy generous (00:25:43) benevolent Society we're watching the (00:25:45) decline because we decided to turn our (00:25:48) back on our Birthright and our (00:25:49) foundation history repeats itself this (00:25:52) is King David's Kingdom all over again (00:25:54) or worse I mean yeah go ahead oh sorry (00:25:58) have you ever spoken to uh Cliff Nel I'm (00:26:00) familiar with him yeah he's he's (00:26:02) terrific I would love to have you guys (00:26:03) on a show together I just think it's (00:26:04) interesting you guys are both fighting (00:26:06) on campuses and it would be interesting (00:26:07) to see the both of you you know team up (00:26:09) on a campus he knows the word far better (00:26:11) than I do that's for sure so cool it's (00:26:13) so nice to have him on a speed dial like (00:26:15) I'll be talking to somebody like I don't (00:26:16) I don't know and I'll just like get on (00:26:17) the phone and he'll just I've passed the (00:26:19) phone off to so many people is right and (00:26:22) he and it's so I love it cuz every time (00:26:24) we're done we pray on the phone so if (00:26:26) I'm talking to some we all just he's on (00:26:28) speaker and I just find that moment (00:26:29) alone that is just the best when you see (00:26:32) somebody like that okay let's I want to (00:26:34) actually talk about partnership uh (00:26:36) Candace s we had her on the show Candace (00:26:38) is the best and uh her new Venture (00:26:40) partnered with yours but you guys used (00:26:42) to work together yeah and we've again (00:26:44) we've known each other boy it'll be (00:26:46) seven years in uh November dude you made (00:26:49) it he's so young that his back in the (00:26:51) day is seven years right of course I (00:26:53) mean I've only been doing this for 12 (00:26:54) years I know I love that bro but it's (00:26:56) just does that overwhelm you ever or do (00:26:57) you get excited that you're so young and (00:26:59) you're with these I I don't think I'm (00:27:00) young and that's that I've never thought (00:27:02) I was young really yeah no I mean I've (00:27:03) lived a very full life and I I don't say (00:27:05) that you know as a joke I I want you to (00:27:08) understand I've traveled 3,300 days in (00:27:10) the last (00:27:13) decade where I'm just kidding every (00:27:15) state every I mean so when you were 18 (00:27:18) right and it's like it's 2012 you're 18 (00:27:20) years old 300 Days on the Road 300 Days (00:27:22) on the Road yes you're 18 mhm wow so did (00:27:25) you just you felt like you always had an (00:27:26) old soul and it didn't feel overwhel to (00:27:28) you when you were 18 starting this big (00:27:30) you know Enterprise well I did I didn't (00:27:32) start a big Enterprise I started a small (00:27:34) thing and I again it's anyone if you (00:27:37) talk to Jeff Bezos Steve Jobs anyone who (00:27:39) started something big again I I hate to (00:27:40) even put myself in that category but no (00:27:43) one started something big you're just (00:27:44) all about survival the first couple (00:27:46) years yeah and that's basically what it (00:27:47) was I was basically marketing an idea (00:27:50) for the first four or five years which (00:27:51) is give money give support give energy (00:27:54) to this thing turning point to help save (00:27:56) the civilization so so let's go back to (00:27:58) Candace so where did you guys meet how (00:28:00) did the relationship grow did you guys (00:28:01) bump heads in the beginning or did you (00:28:03) guys like each other I she'll tell you (00:28:05) the story exactly the same I met her at (00:28:06) the David horz Freedom Center David horz (00:28:08) is amazing he's a legend in the (00:28:09) conservative movement and I heard her (00:28:11) speak and I offered her a job right (00:28:13) right when I met her I was like come (00:28:14) work for us attorney Point USA and she (00:28:15) was relatively unknown she had about (00:28:17) 45,000 Twitter followers she was red (00:28:19) pill black at the time at YouTube and I (00:28:23) basically said if we work together for a (00:28:25) couple years you're goingon to be the (00:28:25) biggest thing in the conservative (00:28:26) movement like I've never seen Talent (00:28:28) like this you've avoid I mean I I have a (00:28:30) few gifts one of them is also spotting (00:28:32) Talent Anna Paulina Luna started with us (00:28:34) Brandon Tatum spent a couple years with (00:28:36) us Candace Owens will wit Isabelle Brown (00:28:38) I mean starting like a little record (00:28:39) label either that or it's like you know (00:28:41) I I I I'm like an NFL scout of (00:28:43) conservative talent I uh and I I love it (00:28:46) I want to see them all flourish Benny (00:28:47) Johnson not that he started with us but (00:28:49) he definitely really got a start with us (00:28:51) in the in his new influencer uh capacity (00:28:54) and I love seeing them all succeed it's (00:28:56) one of the coolest things ever I love it (00:28:58) liked watching you and Candace debate (00:29:00) there was this I I wanted to cut it up (00:29:02) to show you cuz I rewinded it and (00:29:03) laughed so hard were we was I wearing (00:29:05) the Le the leas yeah okay that was you (00:29:08) like you're like and then she was like (00:29:09) talking and you're like Whispering like (00:29:10) your ideas too while she's going off (00:29:12) you're like let me get the mic I want to (00:29:13) talk she's like no not right now and (00:29:14) you're like okay wait like but like it's (00:29:16) like two best friends that are like no (00:29:17) I'll all of you right now all of you and (00:29:20) it was just so funny to watch it looked (00:29:22) like a modern family skit episode it was (00:29:24) it was really really fun um is there any (00:29:27) uh there's a lot of um headache that (00:29:30) comes with a heartache right like when (00:29:31) you especially when you're arguing when (00:29:33) you're discussing uh to me I don't love (00:29:36) this it's not my strong suit I feel like (00:29:38) God like builds certain people for their (00:29:41) job right and mine is more storytelling (00:29:44) and making people laugh and then I could (00:29:46) I could tell you something while it's (00:29:48) it's a little light and easier to digest (00:29:50) your skill set is like no I got to tell (00:29:52) you and basically surgically get in (00:29:54) there and get out does that ever get (00:29:56) taxing on you does it ever get tiring (00:29:59) yes and no but I mean I find purpose in (00:30:01) it I mean everyone's built for something (00:30:02) different right and so I I don't mind (00:30:04) the combat got it and uh I don't do (00:30:07) really well when things just kind of (00:30:10) seem Serene I'm built for the Warfare (00:30:12) nice I felt it I felt it and I also love (00:30:15) to build and so I don't love to manage (00:30:17) but so I have a great team that manages (00:30:19) stuff but I I build I mean we built (00:30:20) Turning Point USA we've built Turning (00:30:22) Point Academy built we have 600 (00:30:23) full-time people now across all the (00:30:25) vectors uh at Turning Point action and (00:30:27) turning point USA so I love to build um (00:30:29) I love to inspire I love to teach uh but (00:30:33) yeah I'm I'm not I'm not good at sitting (00:30:35) still are you trying to run for (00:30:37) president no never I have no interest in (00:30:40) running for anything I would I you know (00:30:42) what I would love I would love to be a (00:30:44) very popular radio host podcast host (00:30:46) great father great husband and live a (00:30:49) very happy life where I can run a major (00:30:51) organization influences the country and (00:30:53) I could pick up the phone the president (00:30:54) answers in the first ring that would be (00:30:56) awesome but I feel like you're doing (00:30:57) that right now so maybe I'm living the (00:30:59) life let's go nice nice it's good I mean (00:31:02) it seems like not the first ring maybe (00:31:03) the second or third right now he do it (00:31:05) right now no do it right now come on you (00:31:10) won't well it seems like you uh you (00:31:12) figured out the good things in life and (00:31:14) you're hanging on to them you know what (00:31:15) I mean why complicate things and you can (00:31:17) enjoy the fruits that God has given you (00:31:18) you're not in want it's good that's what (00:31:20) you know Cliff taught me that he taught (00:31:22) me that you could be where you're at and (00:31:23) not be in want and that's where I find (00:31:25) peace um being very grateful (00:31:29) and I I say this all the time I harp on (00:31:30) it but you can't be anxious and grateful (00:31:32) at the same time so whenever I start (00:31:33) getting anxious I realize now that I (00:31:35) know that I'm like oh man I'm being (00:31:37) ungrateful and that really harms me so (00:31:39) like it puts me back into a grateful (00:31:41) spot that's exactly in gratitude is the (00:31:42) root of of much sin yeah um has there (00:31:45) been a campus that you've gone to maybe (00:31:47) you've gone to it a few times and you've (00:31:49) noticed a change since having these like (00:31:51) these conversations with students it's a (00:31:53) terrific question I've been doing this (00:31:55) now for 12 years it'll be 12 in June and (00:31:58) I I've personally visited over 160 (00:31:59) campuses and I've spoken over boy I (00:32:02) think almost like 140 so I've visited (00:32:04) campus some without speaking so I I've (00:32:05) probably visited more than anybody else (00:32:07) in the last 12 years Shapiro's visit a (00:32:08) lot I think I finally have him beat but (00:32:11) who cares uh We've definitely organized (00:32:12) more and I I love Shapiro he's great and (00:32:14) I love all of them I get along with them (00:32:16) all and so do you guys have the same uh (00:32:18) like point of view or there some type of (00:32:19) we have we have differences for sure (00:32:21) yeah and we don't need to get into that (00:32:22) but he's great and he's done a great uh (00:32:24) service to to the conservative Mo but we (00:32:26) definitely see things differently (00:32:27) especially foreign policy however to (00:32:30) your point when I used to do these (00:32:31) campus stuff there we never used to draw (00:32:33) the crowds like we're drawing now now (00:32:34) part of it is increased popularity but (00:32:37) the amount of energy enthusiasm that we (00:32:40) are now seeing especially from young men (00:32:42) on campuses is palpable I'll go do these (00:32:46) outdoor campus events well thousands of (00:32:47) kids show up to them no exaggeration (00:32:49) when I do these evening campus events we (00:32:51) cannot find rooms big enough to fit all (00:32:53) the students that want to attend our (00:32:55) evening campus lectures wow we cannot (00:32:58) whether whether it be at uh C University (00:33:01) of Kansas or Arizona State University or (00:33:03) Northern Arizona University all across (00:33:06) the country we cannot literally find (00:33:07) spaces big enough and so praise God for (00:33:10) that and I mean I have a upcoming book (00:33:12) called right-wing Revolution where I (00:33:13) talk about this where I especially see (00:33:16) it with young men that young men are (00:33:17) becoming increasingly conservative (00:33:19) increasingly patriotic and very much (00:33:22) anti-left (00:33:23) anti-marxist and the young ladies not as (00:33:25) much but still still a little bit so but (00:33:28) it was not the case five or six years (00:33:29) ago at all and we are the most popular (00:33:32) thing on campus when we show up we are (00:33:34) the most vocal we are by far I think the (00:33:36) most persuasive where the Liberals and (00:33:39) the leftists at most University campuses (00:33:41) are increasingly radical they're not (00:33:43) good at defending their ideas as you can (00:33:44) see on these videos I just went to the (00:33:47) University of Washington Seattle which (00:33:48) is one of the most liberal City liberal (00:33:50) campuses on the plan in the country we (00:33:53) had 1,500 students attend we had to turn (00:33:56) away another 1,200 students well (00:33:58) students that's that means if we had a (00:34:00) room big enough we could have had almost (00:34:01) 3,000 students at University of (00:34:03) Washington Seattle unheard of and I'm (00:34:06) not there as a rapper I'm not there to (00:34:08) tell jokes right I am there to talk (00:34:10) about very meaty philosophy history (00:34:15) conservative values they're thirsty for (00:34:17) knowledge and they're also thirsty for (00:34:19) meaning and purpose that's exactly right (00:34:21) because again I believe we are living (00:34:22) through the suicide of the West and (00:34:24) young people especially they see it they (00:34:27) feel it (00:34:28) they know that something unjust has (00:34:30) happened to them they know that they are (00:34:31) being plundered by the elites and by (00:34:33) their elders and right now the (00:34:35) conservative movement is really a (00:34:38) meeting point of a lot of those concerns (00:34:40) and our agenda is one that actually (00:34:43) resonates at a deep fundamental level (00:34:45) because a lot of problems with the (00:34:46) conservative movement but at least we (00:34:48) are still more in tune with the natural (00:34:51) law and how we as human beings should (00:34:54) live the left is at war with that when (00:34:56) you're on campus (00:34:58) do you ever feel unsafe when it gets to (00:35:01) this amount of numbers has there ever (00:35:03) been any scare well we have great (00:35:04) security uh there was one time when (00:35:06) Candace and I were eating breakfast in (00:35:08) Philadelphia it went very viral this is (00:35:10) well known and about 50 antifa came up (00:35:13) to us while we're eating breakfast at (00:35:14) 6:00 a.m. they were up all night in an (00:35:15) anti-cop protest a couple blocks away (00:35:17) they noticed us storm the restaurant (00:35:19) people can look it up that'll be 6 years (00:35:21) ago actually in July uh and so that was (00:35:23) probably the closest that I've ever felt (00:35:25) we get death threats all the time you (00:35:27) know they come uh they send stuff to our (00:35:29) homes and all that and yeah that's (00:35:31) that's just part for the course I mean (00:35:32) if you are not getting active death (00:35:34) threats you're not really doing much for (00:35:35) the (00:35:36) country you're not shaking things up if (00:35:39) people sry I mean Ian kind I I always (00:35:43) laugh on people like oh my goodness I'm (00:35:44) a politician I got death threats I'm (00:35:45) like okay get in line like we but okay (00:35:48) like we could make jokes a guy just got (00:35:50) sentenced to jail just you you can fact (00:35:52) check a guy just just got sentenced to (00:35:53) jail uh for three or four years because (00:35:55) he wanted to come and shoot up a turning (00:35:56) point you say event (00:35:59) wait how do they know before you well (00:36:00) the FBI actually did their job amazingly (00:36:02) and I'm very critical of the FBI but he (00:36:04) posts on social media said board in this (00:36:06) flight XYZ going to go to this student (00:36:08) action Sumit in Tampa Florida and shoot (00:36:09) them all up oh he announced it 17 years (00:36:12) old when he did it yeah obviously deeps (00:36:14) mental problems but that doesn't mean he (00:36:15) wasn't going to do it right right so he (00:36:18) got arrested and well when you just you (00:36:20) you recently in May you just had a a (00:36:22) child yeah two weeks ago second second (00:36:25) baby praise God am conratulations and (00:36:27) congratulations thank you but these (00:36:28) moments where you're fighting for your (00:36:30) your country and you're getting these (00:36:32) threats does it does it alarm and (00:36:34) concern you for your children I mean yes (00:36:36) and no we we take proper precautions (00:36:38) that's all I'll say and uh we're we feel (00:36:41) confident in that but also I mean my (00:36:43) wife is the best person ever and she's a (00:36:44) patriot and she's a Believer and we (00:36:47) don't want to have to be accountable to (00:36:48) God when this life passes and he asks (00:36:51) why did you not trust in me and not (00:36:53) fight evil because we as Christians are (00:36:55) called to fight evil it's one of the (00:36:56) less lesser known script Psalm 9710 for (00:36:59) those of you that love God you must hate (00:37:00) evil yep amen and again everyone is (00:37:03) called to something different in the (00:37:04) body of Christ some people are called to (00:37:06) heal the sick some people are called to (00:37:09) mend broken marriages some people are (00:37:11) called to do outright hot gospel (00:37:12) teaching my call is to fight evil and to (00:37:16) Proclaim truth that's it and again some (00:37:18) people criticize me for that it's just (00:37:20) my role in this diverse Body of Christ (00:37:23) and everyone some people do Mission work (00:37:25) in the jungles of the Amazon I'm not (00:37:27) called to that yeah but other people are (00:37:29) right you're called to do an amazingly (00:37:30) popular podcast and Proclaim truth to (00:37:32) millions of people amazing so I I don't (00:37:36) do I do I worry for my safety or my (00:37:38) family's safety no and we take proper (00:37:40) precautions we own lots of weapons and (00:37:42) we constantly have them on us I got to (00:37:44) thank you man because I don't think you (00:37:46) probably get thanked enough to be in a (00:37:50) place where they don't understand how (00:37:54) much slack comes with what you're doing (00:37:56) and I know you have that thick skin on (00:37:58) you're like no I'm ready for it but I (00:38:00) also do know what it probably took for (00:38:02) you to get there so if you know only God (00:38:05) knows your true heart and if if you're (00:38:07) doing that I praise you I should have (00:38:09) answered that differently it's not a (00:38:10) thick skin it's the it's the full it's (00:38:12) the armor of Christ as it says in (00:38:13) Ephesians right the breastplate of (00:38:15) righteousness the sword of truth that (00:38:17) that is what protects you so are you in (00:38:19) your gospel I mean I I study the word (00:38:22) intimately daily I love that changed my (00:38:25) life I love the word and you start your (00:38:26) day like that oh I start my day (00:38:28) throughout the day I listen to lectures (00:38:30) commentaries again it's not a (00:38:31) competition people know it better than I (00:38:33) do I just I love it it's infinitely deep (00:38:36) but also immediately accessible so you (00:38:40) could spend for I just did a whole study (00:38:42) on Leviticus which I don't recommend (00:38:44) that's very difficult in in the original (00:38:46) Hebrew but also I probably got I (00:38:49) probably get more out of just reading (00:38:50) the Psalms than like a 90day deep dive (00:38:53) in Leviticus but that was still really (00:38:55) great and wonderful and I and I learned (00:38:56) a lot but look the word built the west (00:38:59) and the word is the it's a gift (00:39:02) obviously it is the instruction manual (00:39:04) it's a comforter the word is our (00:39:06) navigational compass basic instructions (00:39:09) before leaving (00:39:10) Earth I'm going to use that and I will (00:39:13) give you attribution oh is that yours I (00:39:15) don't know where I got it from okay I'm (00:39:17) going to be honest with you George jenko (00:39:19) basic instructions before leaving Earth (00:39:20) Bible I got that yeah and I if you want (00:39:23) to give like an actual technically my (00:39:26) mother gave it to me okay no I would say (00:39:27) Geor (00:39:29) CU Thou shalt notse right or steal right (00:39:33) so you can't Ste again I challenge (00:39:35) people in public life it is one of the (00:39:37) hardest things no she knows I do this (00:39:38) it's hard you must always give (00:39:40) attribution or else you are stealing (00:39:42) from another person you know what they (00:39:44) say different than walk Ste like an (00:39:46) artist I go still stealing no you must (00:39:48) always give credit now if you can give (00:39:50) your own spin on it or it can jog you to (00:39:52) another thing y but you must always give (00:39:54) credit I'm I'm a stickler you're a good (00:39:56) you're a good guy no I'm no I'm I'm a (00:39:58) I'm a sinner and the fact that you say (00:40:00) that makes me believe you're you're a (00:40:02) good (00:40:03) guy has there been um a specific maybe (00:40:06) story with a specific person you can (00:40:08) think of where you know you had an (00:40:10) interaction with them they were on the (00:40:12) opposite side of things with you and (00:40:13) then maybe down the road later on they (00:40:16) came back to you and said you know what (00:40:17) you made me think and I've changed my (00:40:19) mind happens all the time it the (00:40:20) immediate conversion is rare because (00:40:23) pride gets in the way the long-term (00:40:25) conversions are remarkable mhm the (00:40:27) amount of people that come up to me that (00:40:30) are now Turning Point USA chapter (00:40:32) leaders Turning Point USA staff that (00:40:34) were Bernie bro socialist atheists (00:40:36) really is in the thousands now and (00:40:39) they'll come up they like Charlie I was (00:40:40) on the left I saw your videos Charlie (00:40:41) was on the left or even Charlie I used (00:40:43) to come up and debate one of these (00:40:45) tables and now I'm no longer that way (00:40:48) and this is why I'm such a big Free (00:40:49) Speech Advocate is that I believe the (00:40:51) truth when allowed to be heard and (00:40:54) spread will be able to defend itself and (00:40:57) it does something to your soul and (00:40:59) that's why sometimes people have (00:41:00) cognitive dissonance because they've (00:41:01) been fed this left-wing secular atheist (00:41:04) Marxist nonsense repeatedly and all of a (00:41:07) sudden they hear something and they're (00:41:08) like I'm supposed to hate what he's (00:41:10) saying but it kind of right makes sense (00:41:13) it's a seed it's a seed ex and that seed (00:41:16) grows and so again great credit to the (00:41:19) warrior you've had them on Patrick B (00:41:21) David and Jordan Peterson and Candace (00:41:22) Owens and Matt Walsh and Shapiro and (00:41:24) Michael nolles this community about (00:41:27) there's 30 or 40 of us that again (00:41:30) there's probably more but that really do (00:41:31) this on a daily basis that speak in (00:41:34) adversarial environments and do social (00:41:36) media content this is the buried lead of (00:41:39) the right-wing Revolution happening in (00:41:41) the country because people are trying to (00:41:42) figure out why are gen Z becoming more (00:41:44) conservative what's going on it's not (00:41:46) social media it's not the people talking (00:41:48) just in cable news it Tucker is on that (00:41:50) list for sure right it is people that go (00:41:53) on podcasts like this that go on Rogan (00:41:55) it is 30 or 40 or 50 or whatever ever (00:41:57) number you want to put that have every (00:41:59) day been putting out this heterodox (00:42:02) content this contrarian content that all (00:42:04) of a sudden a generation that thought (00:42:06) they're very far to the left that (00:42:08) thought they believ these things they've (00:42:09) had conversions and they've been turned (00:42:11) around and the one thing you'll notice (00:42:13) and you should come to one of our events (00:42:14) they're super fun we have a ton coming (00:42:15) up this fall give me a date on there you (00:42:17) have an open invite I mean that um as an (00:42:19) attendee a speaker whatever I think it (00:42:21) be super cool is that we say we have a (00:42:23) rule at Turning Point USA if you (00:42:26) disagree you go to the front of the line (00:42:28) and we will not put up with the crowd (00:42:29) booing or jering opposition (00:42:33) questions so we try to become what (00:42:36) college campuses should be equal like (00:42:38) let you speak it should be an Open (00:42:40) Marketplace of ideas and you could see (00:42:41) again we have hundreds of hours to (00:42:43) demonstrate this and prove this so at (00:42:45) Washington Seattle I say if you disagree (00:42:47) go to the front of the line 30 people (00:42:48) who disagreed immediately came to the (00:42:49) front of the line and they all have (00:42:51) different objections and I do my best to (00:42:53) try to respond or to clarify or agree or (00:42:57) find Clarity over agreement which is (00:42:59) another Prager uh quote and so I think (00:43:03) that's super healthy and not only that (00:43:06) it allows people to find out what they (00:43:09) really believe and it (00:43:10) challenges it it challenges lies that (00:43:13) they might be living (00:43:14) under one of those you know seeds that (00:43:16) you speaking of you know things that (00:43:18) start things it's actually something you (00:43:19) wrote an essay when you were a senior on (00:43:22) textbooks (00:43:23) being.com that's right well you guys did (00:43:25) do your research she's very good at 12 (00:43:28) years ago wow but so an (00:43:30) eternity right back in my day I've lived (00:43:34) a full life very blessed you're old you (00:43:36) have an old soul it feels that way what (00:43:40) no don't be sorry uh what is something (00:43:42) that you saw in those TCH what was (00:43:43) something that woke you up when you were (00:43:44) in class you read these textbooks you're (00:43:47) like wow this is so one-sided and how do (00:43:50) you think that it we can fix this in (00:43:52) high schools in order to kind of fix (00:43:53) these textbooks well to be honest it's (00:43:55) so funny the the it was a bright .c (00:43:58) article that said liberal bias starts in (00:44:01) AP economics textbooks and I was like (00:44:04) super upset because it was written by (00:44:06) Paul Krugman who's a very far- leftwing (00:44:08) Economist and he got a couple things (00:44:10) wrong one of which was so silly silly (00:44:12) because it shouldn't have like demanded (00:44:13) National outrage versus what we now live (00:44:15) under it said the Reagan tax cuts did (00:44:17) not accelerate economic growth okay (00:44:19) whatever not exact now in our textbooks (00:44:21) are literally outright pornography being (00:44:24) like force-fed to eight or nyear olds (00:44:26) just to think of how far our country has (00:44:28) fallen in 12 years 12 years ago I used (00:44:30) to write articles about you know they (00:44:32) got economic data wrong in the 1980s and (00:44:35) and now we're like okay um here's how to (00:44:38) put on a condom when you're 10 years old (00:44:40) right and so that's a whole another (00:44:43) topic you want to get into it but the in (00:44:45) the indoctrination and dare I say (00:44:47) grooming of our children which is (00:44:50) happening in the public education system (00:44:52) it's intentional and again I'm going to (00:44:54) keep on going back to the scriptures the (00:44:56) only scripture the only ten command one (00:44:58) of the Ten Commandments that involves a (00:45:00) promise and your country is honor your (00:45:02) mother and father so that you may live (00:45:04) long in the land of which you are in wow (00:45:07) and so the quick teaching you not to (00:45:08) respect your parents of course and they (00:45:10) want to break that Bond every Tyrant and (00:45:13) you can go house that's divided go (00:45:16) exactly there is not an example in (00:45:17) recorded history of a tyrant or a (00:45:20) dictator or a totalitarian successfully (00:45:22) coming and maintaining power without (00:45:25) destroying the parent child Bond it does (00:45:27) not exist and so therefore this outright (00:45:31) graphic pornographic curriculum that we (00:45:33) now see is about trying to break that (00:45:35) parent child Bond why what what happens (00:45:38) okay so if a 10-year-old sees graphic (00:45:41) material of sex acts they don't (00:45:43) understand they're going to go to the (00:45:44) teacher and the teacher all of a sudden (00:45:46) becomes more of a parent than the parent (00:45:48) and the parent doesn't realize that (00:45:50) their Authority has been usurped it's a (00:45:51) way of strengthening the state and (00:45:53) weakening the family can I ask you (00:45:55) though is it more of the family's fault (00:45:56) than the teacher it's both you know (00:45:58) that's a smart point I I totally agree (00:45:59) with that because at the end of the day (00:46:01) the the school taught a lot of stuff (00:46:02) that my parents didn't agree with but (00:46:03) they sat my ass down they're like hey we (00:46:05) don't do that [ __ ] and you have great (00:46:07) parents and I guar I bet you have a very (00:46:09) strong father I would imagine and a (00:46:11) strong freaking backhand if I ever went (00:46:13) the wrong way yes no and but let me ask (00:46:14) you a qu this is a very very important (00:46:17) Point did you ever fear that if you did (00:46:19) something wrong your mother would quote (00:46:20) kill you my mom would beat the brakes (00:46:22) off of me that that's that's biblical (00:46:25) now think about don't spare the rod no (00:46:26) this is very important that par kids (00:46:29) that do not fear the retribution of (00:46:30) their parents are wild boys exactly (00:46:33) they're wild and and the scriptures say (00:46:35) this repeatedly which is that if you do (00:46:39) not fear the justice of your (00:46:42) parents then for for example if you talk (00:46:44) to kids who didn't do drugs growing up (00:46:45) you say why not oh my mom would kill me (00:46:48) who are you going to fear if you don't (00:46:49) fear your parents who are you going to (00:46:49) fear yeah you should fear God and your (00:46:51) parents and by the way they're (00:46:52) substitutes for each other in the sense (00:46:53) that the the the commandment to honor (00:46:55) your mother and father so belong the (00:46:56) land to which you in is the test if you (00:46:59) cannot honor your Earthly parents you (00:47:01) cannot honor your heavenly father and so (00:47:05) the the your your question or is it your (00:47:07) parents yes and because they're not on (00:47:10) their guard because they're naive (00:47:11) because they are trusting of (00:47:13) Institutions they should be distrusting (00:47:15) of it's sloppy uh we had a neighborhood (00:47:18) and it was an ongoing joke when I was a (00:47:20) kid we laughed about it I never saw the (00:47:22) sincerity behind it but when I grew up I (00:47:24) was like oh this is not good uh my (00:47:26) neighborhood friend all of them would (00:47:28) hate and love me because we were the (00:47:30) household that uh had people over had (00:47:32) the dinners had the pool parties had all (00:47:34) that stuff uh so the other parents would (00:47:36) always say to the kids cuz they knew (00:47:37) that my mom was the most strict yes they (00:47:39) would say what did Mrs jenko say so they (00:47:42) would literally all the kids would have (00:47:43) to and they would hate me they like dude (00:47:45) your mom is getting us we have to be (00:47:47) here we have to do this because my mom (00:47:48) would set the law of the community kids (00:47:51) and all the parents would literally just (00:47:52) be like what did Mrs jenko say do what (00:47:54) she said and they would just put it off (00:47:55) on her we laughed about this but then I (00:47:57) realize I'm like oh [ __ ] like they have (00:48:00) no control in their home that's exactly (00:48:02) right and how did they develop and if (00:48:04) you realize the kids that didn't fear (00:48:06) their parents never grew up to respect (00:48:07) their parents Bingo and this is very (00:48:09) important parents you should obviously (00:48:11) love your again I'm a new parent so but (00:48:12) I can only speak from Biblical and from (00:48:15) short standpoint it's far more important (00:48:18) to have your (00:48:20) children have self-control than (00:48:23) self-esteem oh my what could you say (00:48:25) that one more time and that is a Prager (00:48:26) ISM just one more time again I keep on (00:48:28) it's far more important for your (00:48:30) children to have self-control than (00:48:32) self-esteem and the only way to teach (00:48:35) self-control is to say (00:48:37) no instead parents want to be loved by (00:48:40) their children not respected by their (00:48:42) children and they want to be more like (00:48:45) their child's friend than their parent (00:48:49) and we are seeing now the consequences (00:48:51) of that you could do both and I think (00:48:54) this is why a lot of friendship comes (00:48:56) later (00:48:57) I just going to say it comes once they (00:49:00) are a can I just say one thing I think (00:49:03) that if you start the same way that you (00:49:05) give a baby milk before you give them (00:49:06) meat if you teach them we have a loving (00:49:09) relationship but there are rules and (00:49:12) boundaries you cannot cross you cross (00:49:15) you will see that other version of me (00:49:17) that you don't like to see I think this (00:49:19) is the household that I grew up me and (00:49:20) my parents were our best friends and we (00:49:22) were best friends all the way since (00:49:24) before even high school but what what (00:49:27) happened was that they established (00:49:29) dominance but there's a hierarchy yes (00:49:30) well then that's that's parenting I I (00:49:32) completely agree with that cuz their (00:49:33) teachings were embellished in love and (00:49:35) then your friendship came cuz my mom (00:49:36) would always tell me when I was younger (00:49:38) she'd be like I'm not your friend cuz (00:49:40) she she you have no friends no she put (00:49:42) down on the law she like you and I we're (00:49:43) not friends we'll be friends later on (00:49:45) when you're you know when you're 18 and (00:49:47) all those things and when a relationship (00:49:49) develops differently but she's like I'm (00:49:51) not your friend right now it was always (00:49:53) embellished in so much love but I feared (00:49:55) my mom and then it wasn't until I was (00:49:57) like became older and then we started (00:49:59) becoming on the same page and I became (00:50:01) started having more responsibilities (00:50:03) that then her and I could see eye to eye (00:50:05) and now we have a friendship this is (00:50:06) this is against everything popular (00:50:08) culture believes you understand that I I (00:50:10) think like your book coming out which I (00:50:13) want to get into this there is a (00:50:14) revolution going on right now I I I pray (00:50:17) and I see parts of it too I really agree (00:50:20) I think there's a (00:50:21) recentering which is why I wrote the (00:50:23) book so the book is called right-wing (00:50:24) Revolution people can pre-order right (00:50:25) now and the argument is actually a (00:50:28) right-wing Revolution is back to the (00:50:30) center and so my argument is actually to (00:50:33) get us back to homeostasis to (00:50:35) equilibrium or balance that we've gone (00:50:37) so far off kilter in a secular atheist (00:50:40) Marxist direction that you have to turn (00:50:42) right to get back to homeostasis so (00:50:44) people think that oh you're going to go (00:50:45) super rightwing you're going to get into (00:50:47) like goofy weird you know totalitarian (00:50:49) fascist stuff it's like no actually we (00:50:51) want to get back to a free Society away (00:50:53) from the unfree society and this is the (00:50:56) core component (00:50:57) that without order without a belief in a (00:51:00) Transcendent being without parenting (00:51:03) nuclear family the society becomes (00:51:06) unfree and that's what's so profound is (00:51:08) that you need more laws more Customs for (00:51:11) example if you had a society with ext (00:51:15) like hypothetically with extremely (00:51:18) strong parents extremely strong (00:51:20) neighborhoods would you need 10,000 laws (00:51:24) to monitor every part of human behavior (00:51:26) no we used to have that (00:51:30) country it's not a hypothetical it was (00:51:32) the 1950s 60s 7s and early 80s we had (00:51:35) very strong families we had High (00:51:37) marriage rates 50% of marriages did not (00:51:40) result in divorce and we were a Freer (00:51:42) Society every person if you talk to your (00:51:44) parents say what how did your parents (00:51:47) parent you in the 1960 they said go out (00:51:49) and play at night and come back uh (00:51:51) before dark basically at dusk and come (00:51:53) back before dark did they lock their (00:51:55) doors no that's a Freer way of living (00:51:57) you didn't worry about walking the (00:51:58) streets and someone was going to come (00:51:59) mug you instead the the deterioration of (00:52:03) the morality of the West has made us (00:52:06) less free a lot of Muslim countries are (00:52:08) like that are they are they high trust (00:52:10) or low trust High trust and and praise (00:52:12) God because they they have um their (00:52:15) they'd say so true their religious views (00:52:18) that there is nobody like a woman could (00:52:21) walk in uh in Dubai or in Sai without a (00:52:23) doubt that's ex Abu Dhabi and it's very (00:52:25) safe very safe and now I will say I'm (00:52:27) not a fan of Theocratic Islamic (00:52:29) totalitarianism but something they have (00:52:31) right is they don't put up with the (00:52:33) small crimes yeah but you know what I (00:52:35) love that we're doing right now is we (00:52:36) don't maybe we don't agree with their (00:52:38) belief but there's nothing wrong with (00:52:40) taking good things that another person (00:52:43) has this is where we're having a problem (00:52:44) with this country this is very profound (00:52:46) we don't want to even if we know Reeds (00:52:48) right about this 10% we're like freak is (00:52:50) 10% now he's all wrong so there's a (00:52:52) balance again I would say that parts of (00:52:56) the United Arab Emirates goes too far in (00:52:59) like not restricting certain Free Speech (00:53:02) rights for example I think it's a good (00:53:03) thing we can petition the government (00:53:04) okay for how long man it's it's we're (00:53:06) getting to a place where we might we're (00:53:08) losing that however there's (00:53:11) also you go through the academy they'll (00:53:13) say you look at the Middle East and it's (00:53:15) so unfree and we never want to be like (00:53:17) that okay but are there elements for (00:53:20) example you walk the streets of Abu (00:53:21) Dhabi or Dubai or you walk the streets (00:53:24) of Doha or you walk the streets of any (00:53:27) middle eastern city do you feel as if (00:53:29) you're going to get mugged they won't (00:53:30) put up with that number one number two (00:53:33) there's there's something where we have (00:53:34) become so far liberal and so egalitarian (00:53:38) I think it's a good thing that in Dubai (00:53:40) they don't have a bunch of homeless on (00:53:41) the side of the street they don't have a (00:53:42) bunch of open air drug addicts that kids (00:53:43) have to look at all the time I think (00:53:45) that's actually something that we can (00:53:46) get back to but we say oh no no we must (00:53:48) not go in that direction because that's (00:53:51) that's Theocratic fascism no that's (00:53:53) orderly streets that actually keep you (00:53:55) free now the the other component of this (00:53:58) though is in these Islamic countries you (00:54:01) know in the United Arab Emirates for (00:54:03) example there are things that they're (00:54:05) deeply missing that we have that we (00:54:07) should try to nourish and that we that (00:54:09) we should try to cherish which is free (00:54:10) enterprise capitalism entrepreneurialism (00:54:13) so the the blend between certain (00:54:14) elements of a free society and an (00:54:17) ordered society which is definitely more (00:54:19) the middle east is incredibly important (00:54:21) but here's the final kicker which is (00:54:24) would you rather and I I would (00:54:27) think of somebody you love your mom okay (00:54:30) would you feel safer with her at 2 a.m. (00:54:32) walking the streets of San Francisco or (00:54:34) Dubai (00:54:35) Dubai San Francis or how about Los (00:54:38) Angeles or Abu Dhabi Abu Dhabi what does (00:54:42) that say about our country those are two (00:54:44) of the biggest cities hey man I wouldn't (00:54:45) let my dude you think I'm joking B what (00:54:47) do you laugh about with your (00:54:49) Mom watch this is a true story cuz we (00:54:51) live part-time in LA and when I'm in La (00:54:53) I have to be home by Sunset she's not (00:54:55) allowed to be outside my mom on the (00:54:57) phone I don't care if anybody thinks (00:54:58) it's wrong go have a girlfriend like M (00:55:00) or a fiance I'm so sorry fiance like (00:55:02) mine and not worry bro I worry about my (00:55:04) life when I go out on La you think I'm (00:55:05) not going to be worried about pounds (00:55:07) hold on this is very important we are (00:55:09) told we're the most free amazing country (00:55:11) I think we've lost part of that and now (00:55:13) we are talking about Middle Eastern (00:55:15) countries that have been so vilified (00:55:17) again I'm not a fan of Islam to be clear (00:55:19) however you have just said you would (00:55:21) rather have your fiance I totally agree (00:55:23) you say Charlie would you rather have (00:55:25) let me go a step further would you (00:55:26) rather have your fiance walk the streets (00:55:28) of Moscow or New York at night (00:55:32) Moscow and she could eat food that's not (00:55:34) poisoned well there you go it looks like (00:55:37) I don't love this country I love this (00:55:39) country I love this country with all my (00:55:40) heart no I love it but we must be very (00:55:42) we got to point out rebuking is a very (00:55:44) very very powerful tool but you have to (00:55:46) rebuke with righteousness you can't just (00:55:48) be like no you're wrong because of this (00:55:50) and you're stupid no it's just like (00:55:51) first of all if you love that person you (00:55:53) got to have respect for that person or (00:55:54) tell us why we're wrong so tell us what (00:55:56) is Dubai and Abu Dhabi doing okay (00:55:58) Muhammad bin zad is the like king or the (00:56:01) prime minister or Prince of the United (00:56:04) Arab Emirates yes they have less certain (00:56:07) Freedom so let's get into one that is (00:56:08) super controversial they don't allow (00:56:11) drinking I'm okay with that I don't (00:56:12) drink so uh but like there riots with (00:56:15) that do they have a better Society this (00:56:19) is a good this is good I want to get (00:56:21) into this I don't know exactly how I (00:56:24) feel about limiting people's wills and (00:56:26) I'll tell you why (00:56:27) because I think it's not necessary okay (00:56:30) let me give you an example there's two (00:56:31) households right my mom was like hey (00:56:34) just be honest with me if you're going (00:56:35) to if you're going to get drunk you got (00:56:37) to call me I'll pick you up right but (00:56:39) then I was like well you know I (00:56:41) obviously saw my mom's fa and this is (00:56:43) worrying her I don't want to disappoint (00:56:44) her I don't want to do that to her but (00:56:45) my options were still there and then (00:56:47) another kid's home was like hey you (00:56:49) better not drink if I even catch you're (00:56:50) going to drink I am going to lose my (00:56:53) that kid as soon as he gets that (00:56:54) opportunity he's going to want to (00:56:56) because because he was don't touch that (00:56:58) do not touch that I don't think we (00:57:00) necessarily tell people what they can (00:57:02) and cannot do and make it hey you cannot (00:57:03) do that I think the the the best (00:57:06) approach is educating them why they (00:57:07) shouldn't and then if they want to touch (00:57:09) the fire brother that's your will I I I (00:57:11) totally sympathize I'm just simply (00:57:13) asking a provocative question and I (00:57:15) think it's a good one got it got it (00:57:17) right which is when you have let's just (00:57:20) say a culture that glor at the very (00:57:22) least allows and then celebrates (00:57:26) generative Behavior okay and I think we (00:57:29) can agree excess drinking yep yep (00:57:31) marijuana smoke smoking right drugs (00:57:34) ecstasy is degenerative Behavior free (00:57:36) and open sex is no consequences and I (00:57:38) smoke weed and I agree with them there (00:57:40) it slows me down I'm not kidding we got (00:57:42) to get you off weed yeah yeah it's bad (00:57:44) it's bad for you you've never smoked (00:57:45) never never me neither no no by the way (00:57:49) I'm not moral this is not me I'm a (00:57:50) better person I want to be very clear we (00:57:53) all have our vices and and that that is (00:57:55) not one of mine yeah I just smoke and do (00:57:56) Coke that's it I'm so kidding about the (00:57:59) coke D I swear I've never done that (00:58:01) that's fine I don't even drink I just (00:58:02) smoke just it started out to help me (00:58:04) sleep I SAR that's fine again I if it (00:58:06) tell (00:58:07) him however I it is an important (00:58:10) question that if you allow Andor (00:58:13) celebrate those things over time does it (00:58:16) make the society sicker yeah and I think (00:58:19) it does it does and so the question is (00:58:22) where do the laws come in what do you (00:58:24) allow what do you not allow to each (00:58:26) their own I totally sympathize with that (00:58:28) oh that's a great approach cuz I would (00:58:29) have never touched it if it didn't make (00:58:30) it illegal I mean if they didn't make it (00:58:32) legal I would have never touched it you (00:58:33) never would have had marijuana if it was (00:58:35) illegal [ __ ] no so when did you start (00:58:37) when as soon as it was legal okay you're (00:58:39) making my point no I know and I'm (00:58:40) agreeing with you and I'm stuck in that (00:58:42) hole right now do you you want to you (00:58:44) want to get off of it I want to get on (00:58:46) it as soon as possible that's the (00:58:47) problem yeah no I do you feel addicted (00:58:49) to it uh yes I am and you know what it (00:58:52) is it's it's I wish I was never (00:58:53) introduced to it I love it and it (00:58:56) doesn't here's the problem and this is (00:58:57) the bigger problem it does not affect my (00:59:00) life right now but I'm not dumb to know (00:59:02) that it's not going to not affect my (00:59:04) life smoke it or is edible or I smoke (00:59:06) like like a little bit at night before I (00:59:08) go to bed it's not like I'm working and (00:59:10) I'm smoking and like and you know what (00:59:12) also breaks my heart if we're just going (00:59:13) to be open and honest about this I my (00:59:16) biggest problem and my biggest strength (00:59:18) is that I reflect a lot and so when I (00:59:21) reflect a lot and you hang out with (00:59:22) people that don't reflect a lot it it (00:59:24) kind of like it it it destroys the (00:59:26) relationship a little bit so when me and (00:59:28) all my friends started smoking weed we (00:59:30) all were like oh this is what we do now (00:59:32) and now when I go to people's houses (00:59:34) even though I'm indulging with them it (00:59:36) does break my heart that I'm like we (00:59:37) could be riding bikes outside right now (00:59:39) we could be going and and Hiking we (00:59:41) could be doing this this and that but (00:59:42) everybody's so content with it just (00:59:43) smoking and just sitting in their house (00:59:45) and watching a screen I can't help but (00:59:48) to think that one day when I'm older God (00:59:49) forbid if I died and I meet God and (00:59:51) God's like dude you sat in one box of a (00:59:53) room yeah and got high and watched a (00:59:55) screen every night when you could have (00:59:58) been doing this and that and that so (01:00:01) what I like to do is that I like to (01:00:02) admit my sins because I can't run away (01:00:04) from them I'm not I'm I'm not moralizing (01:00:06) do you feel your anxiety gotten better (01:00:08) or worse since you started doing uh I (01:00:10) never had anxiety before I started (01:00:11) smoking and then I I got them when I (01:00:14) started smoking well that's why yeah (01:00:15) yeah you know it increases anxiety in (01:00:17) almost every person yeah but they they (01:00:18) told me that it would (01:00:20) help they lied to me almost almost every (01:00:23) independent study shows that long-term (01:00:25) THC use is is an awful pharmacological (01:00:28) agent on the the basil ganglia part of (01:00:32) the brain anyway that's a separate issue (01:00:34) I'm just Cur I'm legitimately curious so (01:00:36) you say that if it was illegal there's (01:00:37) no way you'd touch it I would have me (01:00:39) like bro like you know it's so funny (01:00:42) like I see people they cut corners and (01:00:45) to me the cutting of the corners in life (01:00:48) it you're just I feel like you take away (01:00:50) from your sleep you're always looking (01:00:51) over your shoulder so like if the law (01:00:53) was like Hey we're we can't have (01:00:55) utensils anymore in my mind I'm like all (01:00:57) right dude I'll figure out a way to eat (01:00:58) with my hands like I'm not going to go (01:01:00) against my government and and cause (01:01:02) myself stressed to look over my shoulder (01:01:04) make sure I don't get caught but when it (01:01:05) became legal it it piqu my curiosity and (01:01:08) then I did my research on it and I was (01:01:10) like oh I don't think this is bad and (01:01:12) also I had great examples of Fighters uh (01:01:15) athletes and really really good (01:01:17) businessmen that uh that uh smoke and (01:01:20) they get their job done so in my mind (01:01:22) I'm like oh this is not like drinking (01:01:23) drinking if you drink too much you can't (01:01:24) work and stuff so when I did it I (01:01:26) realize that oh I'm stuck in that stupid (01:01:28) hole I'm going to get myself out of this (01:01:30) but I'm stuck in the hole where they're (01:01:32) they're just added weight to them and (01:01:33) lied to themselves and said oh no I (01:01:35) could keep doing this but you lied you (01:01:36) you're adding weight to yourself and uh (01:01:39) also and this is just the last thing I'm (01:01:42) going to say I I like I never had that (01:01:44) college experience when I went out and (01:01:45) party and all that stuff and I just got (01:01:47) engaged I know that God will one day (01:01:49) when we (01:01:50) getri we we have to choose a date we've (01:01:53) beening with the show no this long (01:01:55) engagement thing doesn't work yeah no no (01:01:57) no we just got engage we just got engage (01:01:58) in January I just want good weather so (01:02:00) by time we get the V you got to get it (01:02:01) done by the end of theend he's right (01:02:02) babe we got to figure it out no you got (01:02:03) to go quick this long engagement don't (01:02:05) work there not a long engagement we got (01:02:07) to find the venue and a long engagement (01:02:09) bab it's it's a long engagement we don't (01:02:10) have a date that's crazy do you even (01:02:11) want to marry me B but please he turns (01:02:15) us against each other jeez quick trust (01:02:17) me I find the perfect venue and so then (01:02:20) it's available on the right day the best (01:02:22) thing ever I'm very pleased you guys are (01:02:23) getting married no I actually I it (01:02:26) really is and I and I can't wait to have (01:02:28) a kid cuz I grew up in a in a I grew up (01:02:31) in a in a culture it was like what (01:02:34) you're not having sex you're not doing (01:02:36) that and then I can't wait to teach my (01:02:37) kids like dog don't listen to those lies (01:02:39) just just wait find the person you love (01:02:42) and then yes it's a gross behavior that (01:02:44) I was a part of well no I'm just I'm (01:02:46) fascinated by all this and I love your (01:02:47) honesty and um back to the kind of macro (01:02:50) point no back to your book I want to (01:02:51) talk about your book this is your sixth (01:02:53) book I'm more interested in you than the (01:02:55) book but yes it is this is my sixth book (01:02:57) um if you guys want to buy it rightwing (01:02:59) Revolution uh I'll put the link in the (01:03:00) description yeah it'll be when does it (01:03:01) come out uh June 14th right right Mike (01:03:04) 14th June 14th um and uh so yeah June (01:03:08) 14th and so what made you write this (01:03:10) book and then like how did you get into (01:03:12) these uh you're doing so much like what (01:03:14) made you think like oh I got to write a (01:03:16) book yeah I don't sit still well uh I (01:03:17) got books I got podcasts radio shows (01:03:19) live streams um and you say you don't (01:03:21) like to manage so it's it's really hard (01:03:23) to like understand how grow versus (01:03:24) manage are two different things me about (01:03:26) this cuz I think what I'm doing is too (01:03:28) many things I can help we'll talk about (01:03:31) that outside but let's go right back to (01:03:32) the book yes so uh yeah so it's an (01:03:34) election year uh happy to talk about (01:03:37) that if you want so I wanted to do (01:03:38) something that I felt spoke to where the (01:03:40) country was at I am hoping for a (01:03:43) reentering so the way I word a (01:03:45) reentering is a right-wing Revolution as (01:03:47) I mentioned so imagine if you have a (01:03:49) destination point you want to get the (01:03:51) Flag Staff so we're here in Phoenix (01:03:52) right now you want to get the Flag Staff (01:03:54) do north and all of a sudden you look at (01:03:56) your navigational map and you're like (01:03:58) wait a second we're close to Yuma we're (01:04:00) going west and so you have to adjust and (01:04:02) be like no no we want to take a right (01:04:04) turn and they'll go North to actually (01:04:06) get back to our destination that's the (01:04:07) argument I make in the book and it goes (01:04:09) through a political Revival a spiritual (01:04:11) Revival and a personal Revival and I (01:04:14) really challenge the reader to First the (01:04:16) revolution starts with you with stop (01:04:19) doing drugs and stop you know drinking (01:04:20) up I'm not meaning to you but but I I (01:04:22) would love for you to stop doing that (01:04:24) cuz I think you actually will live a (01:04:25) better half ofier life and I mean out of (01:04:27) like concern for you I appreciate your (01:04:28) reing no and I I'm not rebuking I'm I'm (01:04:30) challenging right I I think and I want (01:04:32) to see that because I think that you (01:04:34) have a great life and you're doing (01:04:35) amazing things and so that that the (01:04:37) argument around that is we have to (01:04:38) become better physically we have to (01:04:40) become prepared for what is coming next (01:04:42) and I go through exactly what we are up (01:04:44) against we call it the woke but really (01:04:46) what are these forces are I believe they (01:04:48) are demonic and I believe they're (01:04:49) unclean spirits in nature and I say that (01:04:52) in the book it's filled with scripture (01:04:54) and my argument is that Americans Victor (01:04:57) Frankl in one of my most favorite books (01:04:59) uh man search for meaning says there's (01:05:01) only two types of people there's the (01:05:02) indecent and the decent this is a guy (01:05:03) who was a holocaust Survivor came up (01:05:05) with an amazing way of viewing the world (01:05:07) that everything can have purpose if you (01:05:08) choose that it has purpose it's very (01:05:10) biblical it's terrific and he says (01:05:12) there's only two two types of people the (01:05:13) decent and the indecent and I believe (01:05:14) they are more decent Americans than (01:05:15) indecent Americans so what I do in the (01:05:17) book is I try to put out a road map or a (01:05:20) navigational tool of where we are how (01:05:22) we've gotten off course and how we can (01:05:24) try to reenter ourselves what you saying (01:05:26) to prepare us for what is about to (01:05:28) happen in your in your mind what do you (01:05:29) feel like is about to (01:05:31) happen I I mean I I got out of the the (01:05:34) specific prediction business uh even (01:05:36) though I host a show for three hours a (01:05:37) day but um and if you don't mind me (01:05:39) asking why did you get out of the uh (01:05:41) well because you're guessing I I mean so (01:05:43) I can guess but you're feeling it gets (01:05:47) taking away from your truth yeah I just (01:05:49) again I don't I'm not a prophet y right (01:05:52) I'm an explainer uh I see certain things (01:05:55) where they happen and when I I say see (01:05:56) that I really try to go all in on them (01:05:59) but yeah I mean we have a choice we the (01:06:02) likelihood of the West is we're going to (01:06:04) see (01:06:05) unprecedented once in a generation (01:06:07) instability and that's where we're (01:06:09) headed the dollar is about to collapse (01:06:11) we have four looming Wars on the horizon (01:06:13) we have an economic catastrophe right in (01:06:16) front of us we have a generational (01:06:17) crisis where you have a younger (01:06:19) generation ages 18 to 30 that is the (01:06:22) most suicidal alcohol addicted drug (01:06:25) addicted least married least having (01:06:27) children we have a fertility crisis in (01:06:28) the west all those Spell stability this (01:06:32) is not a Pax Romana time so likely (01:06:35) you're going to see a cultural (01:06:36) earthquake I don't know what that looks (01:06:37) like is one of the reasons why I'm (01:06:39) dedicating every fiber my being to try (01:06:41) to get Donald Trump re-elected I believe (01:06:43) that he can actually reenter the country (01:06:45) and get us back to the country I don't (01:06:46) know of 2018 where we thought things (01:06:48) were really crazy but actually they were (01:06:49) rather stable versus what we living (01:06:51) through and my contention and my (01:06:53) argument is that this country is not (01:06:55) healed postco is that from 15 days to (01:06:59) saw the spread when Mike Pence took that (01:07:00) Podium we have been in a constant state (01:07:03) of neuroticism of fear chaos of fissures (01:07:08) and I believe the country is deeply sick (01:07:11) have we ever been in this type of (01:07:12) situation in this country before so is (01:07:14) it like history repeating itself is it (01:07:15) not I I history Rhymes more than it (01:07:17) repeats itself I didn't come up with (01:07:18) that somebody did I don't know who I (01:07:20) really appreciate that you do that could (01:07:21) you elaborate what that means yeah I (01:07:22) mean we have not had I believe this many (01:07:25) looming domestic crisis since the 1860s (01:07:27) since the American Civil War now I'm not (01:07:29) saying we're going to a civil war that's (01:07:30) not what I'm saying but we have never (01:07:33) we've never seen this many simultaneous (01:07:35) existential problems and also what makes (01:07:38) it different and we've never had this (01:07:39) before is the people who are tasked with (01:07:42) running the (01:07:43) society they hate the people that (01:07:45) they're governing they have a top- down (01:07:48) Revolution against us and they are doing (01:07:51) methodical daily policy decisions that (01:07:54) weaken the country that they are (01:07:56) supposed to be caretakers of from an (01:07:58) economic standpoint from a geopolitical (01:08:00) standpoint from a foreign policy (01:08:01) standpoint so we have a ruling class (01:08:03) that is at war with its (01:08:05) people and that's an oligarchy and you (01:08:09) get (01:08:10) really do you think is a techn unstable (01:08:12) stuff after that let me just put it that (01:08:14) way do you think it's because technology (01:08:15) has gotten so Advanced that uh the (01:08:17) people at the top are like oh these (01:08:19) people are like kind of meaningless now (01:08:21) we could get AI in 20 30 years to (01:08:24) replace you're giving them way too much (01:08:26) credit no no they're they're not that (01:08:27) some of them are that sophisticated but (01:08:28) not all of them no these are largely (01:08:30) ideological zealots that believe that (01:08:33) they are part of the managerial class (01:08:36) and that they run the society and they (01:08:38) do not believe in representative (01:08:40) government they do not believe in (01:08:41) consent to the Govern they do not (01:08:43) believe in the traditional American (01:08:44) systems of how we solve our problems and (01:08:47) I can just I can give you pieces of (01:08:48) evidence after piece of evidence from (01:08:49) how they interfere with our elections (01:08:51) how they are orchestrating trying to put (01:08:53) Donald Trump in prison instead of (01:08:54) allowing an election actually (01:08:56) to happen without such out outsized and (01:09:00) outward influences so yeah we have major (01:09:04) issues here but the biggest of all of (01:09:05) them and I'll repeat it is the people (01:09:08) who have the most are abusing the (01:09:11) society and to much is given much is (01:09:14) expected they are breaking the biblical (01:09:16) principle and it is the parable of the (01:09:18) talents and right now the billionaire (01:09:22) oligarchs in both political parties but (01:09:24) mostly the Democrat Party they seem (01:09:26) completely not concerned that they are (01:09:28) sewing the seeds of a domestic (01:09:29) Revolution against them and I don't mean (01:09:31) a right-wing Revolution I mean something (01:09:33) that could go very nasty very quickly (01:09:34) and I pray that's not the case but the (01:09:38) seeds and the prerequisite to that sort (01:09:40) of tumult is certainly being being (01:09:43) laid what is the worst case scenario in (01:09:46) your mind you're like if we don't figure (01:09:48) this out this could God forbid go here (01:09:49) nuclear war with Russia really yes well (01:09:53) that is not going to help me sleep at (01:09:54) night well might want to keep doing this (01:09:57) sub you know keep how far are we from (01:09:59) that I mean probably still pretty far (01:10:03) but I (01:10:04) mean I'm going to say something (01:10:06) controversial but I don't care you (01:10:08) should be very thankful that Russia has (01:10:10) been able to take a lot of ground cu the (01:10:12) worst possible situation would have been (01:10:14) Russia with their back against the wall (01:10:16) embarrassed with the West looking as if (01:10:18) they were about to do regime (01:10:21) change CU then why wouldn't they use one (01:10:23) of those 6,000 nuclear warheads that (01:10:24) they have Russia is a major proud (01:10:27) country that I do not like they're not a (01:10:29) free Society I don't think very highly (01:10:30) of Russia I don't like Putin however (01:10:32) they it's a very very complicated (01:10:34) country to govern with 10 time zones (01:10:36) they have a strong national identity (01:10:38) they're 110 million people with the most (01:10:40) natural resources and oil deposits of (01:10:41) any country in the world and our ruling (01:10:43) class is like we're going to go give a (01:10:45) bunch of weapons to this up Foreigner (01:10:46) gangster called zalinsky and try to push (01:10:48) back Russia to embarrass them what (01:10:50) happens when people are embarrassed they (01:10:52) kind of give you two they give you the (01:10:54) bird and they have 6,000 warhe (01:10:56) right cuz their pride is like shot and (01:10:58) they need to do something to prove (01:10:59) themselves but if we go to war like that (01:11:01) then nothing would stand well yeah again (01:11:03) I'm I'm talking this is why I don't do (01:11:04) like predictions too much no no I'm (01:11:06) asking I'm saying nuclear war with (01:11:08) Russia is in the cards and no but I'm (01:11:10) saying like if they did do that right (01:11:12) like wouldn't that be like the last Cas (01:11:14) it would be mutually assured destruction (01:11:16) but you think that the proud Russian (01:11:20) people are going to just allow their (01:11:22) country to disintegrate from the West in (01:11:25) a iation show (01:11:27) trial they they're going to use one of (01:11:30) their they might use one of their (01:11:31) nuclear warheads and if we think that's (01:11:33) not even in the cards we are being (01:11:35) recklessly governed by the current (01:11:38) ruling class you know what that is (01:11:39) that's the kid that doesn't fear his (01:11:40) parents and they don't see a consequence (01:11:44) when okay so I grew up with some like (01:11:47) maybe not the most intelligent friends (01:11:49) but if somebody on the street would do (01:11:50) something they would immediately punch (01:11:52) them in the face and I would be like yo (01:11:55) you can't do you're going to get (01:11:55) arrested Justice and he would say n (01:11:58) he'll think next time he does that to (01:11:59) somebody else and that always stuck with (01:12:01) me cuz I was like I wonder if that guy (01:12:02) ever did do that again you know what I (01:12:03) mean like if you mouth off to somebody (01:12:05) and you get punched in the face uh I did (01:12:08) mix martial arts growing up so I'll be (01:12:10) the first one to be like I don't want (01:12:11) any smoke with anybody on the street (01:12:12) because like you you won't even know (01:12:14) what this guy could possibly do to you (01:12:16) because I've been punched and kicked (01:12:18) around and and beat up so many times in (01:12:20) the ring it humbles you to be like wow I (01:12:23) really could get my ass kicked in front (01:12:24) of my fiance right now I not going to (01:12:26) yell at this guy who's yelling at the (01:12:27) car it corrects you and I I think as (01:12:30) America we we got to a place where we (01:12:33) really haven't seen that really heavy (01:12:35) hand yet and that's what scares me I (01:12:37) feel like there has to be something I (01:12:39) feel like every country puts them in a (01:12:42) position to feel that like we got to go (01:12:44) to a fight again and I'm just worried (01:12:45) about that that's what scares me that is (01:12:48) a big concern yeah I mean look there's (01:12:50) there's major looming domestic crises (01:12:52) right now the dollar could collapse (01:12:54) that's less likely but we are going to (01:12:55) see a debt crisis and you could also (01:12:58) just see massive domestic political (01:13:00) turmoil of a generation that owns (01:13:02) nothing and they're not happy that gen Z (01:13:04) and Millennials so yeah I mean you could (01:13:06) you also the Chinese Communist part is (01:13:09) developing incredibly Advanced a AI (01:13:11) weaponry and that could be used against (01:13:13) the West uh we are we are at The Verge (01:13:15) and the precipice of major robot wars (01:13:18) Terminator style which might sound good (01:13:20) but you're going to get more war if (01:13:21) human beings aren't involved not less if (01:13:23) human beings aren't involved the war (01:13:25) machine will only be cooked up even more (01:13:27) not less because then they can justify (01:13:29) their Wars by not having to say oh yeah (01:13:30) we lost th troops oh we lost th000 (01:13:32) robots whatever give us more money so (01:13:33) you're going to actually have more (01:13:34) conflict not less conflict with robot (01:13:36) wars and that's coming very soon so yeah (01:13:39) you need a state you need a steady hand (01:13:40) all of these things are corrective (01:13:43) another thing that could happen I (01:13:44) guarantee there's sleeper cells in the (01:13:45) country right now guarantee it we have a (01:13:47) wide open border 3.5 million people are (01:13:48) coming across the border every single (01:13:50) year we know that some of them are on (01:13:51) the domestic Terror watch list if I (01:13:52) hited a country I'd put a couple my (01:13:54) sleeper cells across the border say that (01:13:55) I'm claiming Asylum embed them in (01:13:57) Phoenix in Dallas in Lincoln Nebraska (01:14:00) get them to know the critical (01:14:01) infrastructure do an EMP attack (01:14:03) electromagnetic pulse attack Turn Off (01:14:05) the Grid bomb a couple schools what's to (01:14:08) prevent them from doing that we've been (01:14:09) attack before well they're already said (01:14:12) Somebody's just like watching them (01:14:13) they're like pretty good pretty good I I (01:14:16) I hope that uh I hope me saying it (01:14:18) publicly puts law enforcement into gear (01:14:21) to try to prevent it but look when have (01:14:22) you ever talked about that before oh (01:14:23) yeah okay good I'm not by one it's in (01:14:26) right-wing media it's talked about a lot (01:14:28) cuz we see what's happening when you (01:14:29) have 3 and a half million people and (01:14:30) they're interviewing people on the (01:14:31) border this the other day guy from (01:14:33) Turkey says I'm from Turkey I'm coming (01:14:35) across the border for a better life but (01:14:36) I just saw some guys they're really bad (01:14:38) guys and I just spent a couple days with (01:14:40) them and no one knows who they are and (01:14:41) now they're gone they're warning us (01:14:44) about who's coming across the border (01:14:45) Bill maluan interview with Fox News a (01:14:46) couple days ago in California (01:14:48) interviewed this uh guy coming from (01:14:49) Turkey so look I mean I can go through (01:14:51) all the concerns of what's happening cuz (01:14:53) I bet it was him though yeah they went (01:14:55) that way yeah exactly I'm from (01:14:58) Turkey uh okay so if we go down the (01:15:00) political party like we had V ramas (01:15:02) Swami's great yeah so I want to get to (01:15:04) okay I'm happy to be I'm trying to learn (01:15:06) from your as possible so tell me about (01:15:08) the candidates that could possibly like (01:15:10) you know we had robbert Kennedy Jr (01:15:12) sitting right where you're sitting what (01:15:13) are your thoughts on somebody like him (01:15:15) uh and Donald Trump and Biden like I (01:15:17) want to I want to understand the policy (01:15:19) cuz I go on the streets right and you (01:15:21) hear a guy on the bus oh you believe in (01:15:23) blah blah blah well he talks this he (01:15:24) does that but I want to hear about (01:15:27) things that they're actually doing that (01:15:28) you agree with and you disagree with I (01:15:30) actually want to hear some of the things (01:15:31) you agree with them too okay so boy uh (01:15:35) which one do you want to start with you (01:15:36) want to start with Biden I do want to (01:15:37) start with Biden yeah okay I think he's (01:15:39) a traiter to the country and a craven (01:15:40) evil Maniac wow that was a pretty that (01:15:43) was went right there a nice guy no I (01:15:46) mean has he done anything that you're (01:15:48) you're excited (01:15:51) about he hasn't he's act the fact that (01:15:54) he hasn't (01:15:56) given the green light to bomb targets (01:15:58) inside of Russia recently is probably (01:16:00) the best thing he's done he's actually (01:16:02) like slowed down some of the maniac (01:16:04) neocons in (01:16:06) DC that's really nice I'm very nice (01:16:10) thing about them the fact that Biden (01:16:11) actually said recently we don't want to (01:16:13) escalate this further against Russia is (01:16:15) like the most responsible thing I've (01:16:16) seen from him and he's been incredibly (01:16:18) Reckless on this issue but cool was (01:16:20) actually (01:16:21) surprising he has this raving lunatic (01:16:23) Victoria nuland going on TV saying we (01:16:25) have to go bomb the interior of Russia (01:16:27) like literally she just said that and (01:16:29) that's how again that's how you get the (01:16:31) unthinkable that I said previously so no (01:16:33) look Biden has been a disaster to the (01:16:34) country I I don't want to spend too much (01:16:35) time on Biden but RFK so RFK I think (01:16:38) he's great on the vaccine stuff he's (01:16:39) great I'm a big medical Freedom guy like (01:16:41) very big on medical freedom I think (01:16:42) we're being poisoned actively by (01:16:44) corporations uh first of all he's not (01:16:46) going to be president he's not going to (01:16:47) win but secondly he's liberal on almost (01:16:48) every major issue so you're writing him (01:16:50) off complet he's not going to win no (01:16:52) there there's there's no there's zero (01:16:53) chance so why is he getting up every day (01:16:55) trying so hard well CU maybe he's trying (01:16:57) to run for the Democrat nominee next (01:16:58) time I mean think about this RFK Jr is a (01:17:01) major winner of this campaign he was (01:17:04) relegated to like political obscurity as (01:17:06) being labeled as just an antia guy for (01:17:08) years no one would interview him no one (01:17:10) would take him seriously now he's in (01:17:12) popular dialogue and discourse he is the (01:17:14) most talked about living Kennedy got it (01:17:16) yes right and there's a lot of living (01:17:18) kennedies you turn over a rock in (01:17:19) Massachusetts there's a Kennedy right (01:17:21) he's the most talked about living (01:17:22) Kennedy and he's getting his ideas out (01:17:24) there and I think he's a True Believer (01:17:25) in certain stuff but he's far leftwing (01:17:27) on the environment on abortion he says (01:17:29) no restrictions at all whatsoever even (01:17:31) if it's up to the point of gestation (01:17:33) which is insane it's evil it's cruel (01:17:35) elaborate on that what does that mean he (01:17:36) sat down with Sage Steel uh who is a (01:17:38) former ESPN anchor and she's terrific (01:17:40) she's uh black Patriot and she asked do (01:17:43) you believe in any restrictions when it (01:17:45) comes to abortion and he says I believe (01:17:47) in allowing the woman's right to choose (01:17:48) and not getting within doctors same (01:17:50) thing she said just be clear even at (01:17:51) nine months so woman is fully pregnant (01:17:54) mons nine months even France doesn't (01:17:56) allow this just to be clear okay and (01:17:59) pick her hometown nice yeah but no and (01:18:01) France has just enshrined abortion in (01:18:03) the Constitution they don't even allow (01:18:04) this kind of late term crap and he says (01:18:07) I I no restrictions I'm not going to lie (01:18:09) which which is so which means he is so (01:18:11) held hostage by (01:18:13) the child sacrificing base of the (01:18:15) Democrat Party I just have to say it (01:18:17) right because there I love how you took (01:18:18) a second to see if you were going to say (01:18:20) it and then you're like I'm I'm just (01:18:21) going to say which which it's just it's (01:18:23) just you know sacrificing at the alter (01:18:25) of moak which is what it is it's a (01:18:26) million abortions a year and like oh (01:18:28) yeah at 9 months babies fully developed (01:18:30) can survive outside of the womb boom we (01:18:32) can do it so he offered no moral Clarity (01:18:34) at that point of time he's come on my (01:18:36) program again I have a lot of respect (01:18:38) for him on the co stuff because I think (01:18:39) he deserves credit for that however he's (01:18:41) not going a be president B he's super (01:18:43) liberal C I think he's disguising how (01:18:45) radical he really is to try to win votes (01:18:47) from both sides and then uh my man (01:18:50) Donald Trump I mean I'm very biased I've (01:18:51) got to know him really well he's been (01:18:52) incredibly good and gracious to me um (01:18:55) but here here's how I want people to (01:18:57) think about this election because (01:18:57) there's so much noise okay for the first (01:19:01) time since the 1892 election we now have (01:19:05) two independent presidential terms that (01:19:07) we can compare so in 1892 we had (01:19:09) Benjamin Harrison versus Grover (01:19:11) Cleveland and Grover Cleveland served as (01:19:14) president prior Benjamin Harrison beat (01:19:16) him and the Grover Cleveland ran again (01:19:17) so in 1892 voters were like okay which (01:19:20) president was better was it Benjamin (01:19:21) Harrison or Grover Cleveland they chose (01:19:23) Grover Cleveland who like Trump won (01:19:27) didn't win and then ran again so the (01:19:29) question is this on three issues that I (01:19:32) believe are the most important issues (01:19:34) who has the better record number one on (01:19:36) the economy where where did you feel (01:19:38) more comfortable financially inflation (01:19:40) purchasing power more stability four (01:19:42) years of trump four years of Biden over (01:19:44) 75% of Voters agree it was Donald Trump (01:19:46) it's not even close second issue War (01:19:49) under Joe Biden we have new Wars in (01:19:51) almost every single theater potential (01:19:53) war with Iran we have is with China (01:19:55) obviously Israel Gaza Israel Hamas (01:19:58) Ukraine Russia Donald Trump was the (01:20:00) first American President in 40 years (01:20:02) where there were no new Wars started no (01:20:05) new Wars period blessed are the (01:20:07) peacemakers there was no Putin in (01:20:09) Ukraine there was no Israel Gaza it was (01:20:13) stability like we've never seen in fact (01:20:14) there was an Israel peace deal called (01:20:16) the Abraham Accords that Donald Trump (01:20:17) brokered and the final is the border and (01:20:19) just this idea of mass indifference to (01:20:22) crime in this country crime is like my (01:20:24) number one issue to be perfectly honest (01:20:25) I think that if you allow the small (01:20:27) stuff you get the big stuff is excused (01:20:29) I'm talking about theft arson and of (01:20:31) course entrance into the country 3 and (01:20:32) half million people breaking in and (01:20:34) invading the country the Border was the (01:20:35) most secure under Donald Trump so those (01:20:37) three things are the things I think how (01:20:38) you should analyze this election which (01:20:40) president did it better it takes the (01:20:42) guesswork out of this election when you (01:20:43) go to fill out your ballot so when you (01:20:45) fill out your ballot usually an election (01:20:48) is either one of two things so for (01:20:50) example in the 2008 election Obama V (01:20:52) McCain it was two visions for the (01:20:54) country but we really don't know how (01:20:55) they would be as President right in 2012 (01:20:58) it was one record versus a vision and a (01:21:01) challenge so you had Obama V uh Romney (01:21:04) in 2012 this is different this is four (01:21:07) years four years you judge who did it (01:21:10) better which president were you richer (01:21:12) which president were you safer which (01:21:14) president had more stability (01:21:15) domestically and it's not even close (01:21:17) it's Donald J Trump um conspiracies have (01:21:21) became true throw them at me no yeah so (01:21:23) that's what I'm saying I go as de into (01:21:25) the stuff as you want to um do you (01:21:27) believe (01:21:29) that yeah I'm going to get you in (01:21:30) trouble with YouTube yes wait really (01:21:32) yeah so what we're about to say next (01:21:34) we're going to be taking it out and (01:21:36) putting it on X I have a question for (01:21:39) you m kind of like the Dearing off a (01:21:41) little bit um do you think that your (01:21:44) interest and your understanding for (01:21:46) people and the way that they think and (01:21:48) being able to kind of you know (01:21:50) understand them comes from your mother (01:21:51) being like in mental health um yes and (01:21:55) no she only got into that in recent (01:21:57) years um we didn't talk about that too (01:21:59) much my mom's amazing my parents are the (01:22:00) best and they're super supportive and (01:22:04) they're not political really at all uh (01:22:06) so but I I don't know um we would talk (01:22:09) about things openly I'd say more (01:22:10) importantly what I the values that they (01:22:13) instilled in me are still the same to (01:22:15) this day very strong Christian values (01:22:19) are the same that I believe in to this (01:22:21) day when did you your parents can only (01:22:23) walk you to Christ but when when did you (01:22:25) accept Christ fifth grade at Christian (01:22:26) Heritage Academy what I remember um I (01:22:30) mean I was kind of I heard a hot gospel (01:22:33) and I heard what happens if you don't (01:22:34) give Jesus you give your life to Jesus (01:22:36) and it's very important that when we (01:22:38) share the gospel the modern gospel is (01:22:41) God has this beautiful amazing wonderful (01:22:43) life for you and if you give your life (01:22:45) to Christ your life will infinitely (01:22:47) improve that is somewhat true but it's (01:22:50) very misleading because you're basically (01:22:52) trying to sell people on Christianity of (01:22:55) life without (01:22:56) difficulty where the better way to teach (01:22:58) the gospel is here's the Ten (01:22:59) Commandments how many of these are you (01:23:00) violating oh you deserve to go to hell (01:23:03) and you probably will unless you give (01:23:04) your life to Christ that is the proper (01:23:06) way to evangelize and so I realized the (01:23:08) stakes in fifth grade I was like oh my (01:23:10) goodness I'm a sinner I'm selfish I'm (01:23:12) broken and only thanks to Jesus's (01:23:15) perfect sacrifice coming and living a (01:23:17) perfect life that I get something I do (01:23:20) not earn but has been given to me this (01:23:21) free gift of eternal (01:23:23) life fear of the Lord is the beginning (01:23:26) of wisdom as as it says in Proverbs (01:23:27) that's right but (01:23:31) I my fear of the Lord might be different (01:23:34) I kind of want to talk to you about this (01:23:35) I would love to debate you about this (01:23:36) because I if if you teach me to see I I (01:23:39) disagree but yeah but I would love to (01:23:41) see this when when you say that that's (01:23:43) the first thing or the best thing to uh (01:23:45) en angel I I say that word so wrong all (01:23:48) the time (01:23:50) and evangelism thank you it it ties up (01:23:53) my tunnel sometimes (01:23:58) um I know that there's like this new (01:24:01) Christian teaching of like you want a (01:24:02) new job and a promotion gave your life (01:24:04) to Jesus I I get that but I think that (01:24:08) if your father you love him right I (01:24:10) don't think the first thing you think (01:24:12) about is like what he's going to do to (01:24:13) you if you do something wrong I think (01:24:15) the first thing you think is how much he (01:24:16) loves you and from that you want to do (01:24:19) things that honor him because of that (01:24:21) love first it's a great point so let me (01:24:23) try to win you over you would say that (01:24:25) Jesus is here to save us save us from (01:24:28) what ourselves we're dead people walking (01:24:32) okay so you have to tell people about (01:24:33) the death first (01:24:36) right you're very good at your job (01:24:39) you're very good at your job sir Jesus (01:24:41) Jesus is a rescue mission but you must (01:24:43) you must teach people what you rescuing (01:24:45) them from yes I got it I guess oh God (01:24:47) that's such a good point of you it's an (01:24:49) amazing point and would you say that (01:24:51) maybe it's a little mixture of both (01:24:52) because we also don't want to scare (01:24:54) people so much that they feel like we're (01:24:56) scaring them to that's like well it's (01:24:57) the only choice you want to be dead and (01:24:59) so you have to follow Jesus whereas we (01:25:01) want them to follow Jesus because they (01:25:03) love Jesus and they love everything is (01:25:05) about and they love everything that they (01:25:06) do for us you know now that I'm on your (01:25:08) side can I debate her I switch sides (01:25:12) excuse me sir um his point is this if (01:25:15) you're not going to fear Jesus You're (01:25:16) Going To Fear something else so he's (01:25:17) just trying to replace your fear no of (01:25:19) course and that I agree with 100% but (01:25:22) what I don't agree with I think is the (01:25:23) people who you know on the campus who (01:25:25) walk on the corner and who are like who (01:25:27) just who only preach the negative I (01:25:29) totally agree with that so actually (01:25:31) there's a Bible verse about that and and (01:25:33) so the 100% it's a profound point which (01:25:36) is I cringe when I go to Whole Foods and (01:25:39) there's some guy that says like repent (01:25:41) now and you know I I think he gives (01:25:44) religion a bad name yeah however laying (01:25:46) out the stakes of the one two sequence (01:25:51) which is we are damned here's the great (01:25:53) news right (01:25:55) we are all fall short of the glory of (01:25:57) God and there is this bridge to get to (01:26:00) the Divine here's the so let me also (01:26:03) reinforce this point the last 30 years (01:26:07) we have the greatest test ever in what I (01:26:09) call a cold or soft (01:26:12) gospel and most churches you will go to (01:26:15) in this area or Nationwide the soft (01:26:17) gospel will go everybody thank you so (01:26:19) much for coming Easter Sunday I want you (01:26:21) to give your life to Christ because he (01:26:24) loves you so much and he has a great (01:26:27) life for you and you might be dealing (01:26:28) with addiction or depression or anxiety (01:26:30) and you can break free of those things (01:26:32) and you can live a beautiful and better (01:26:34) life now those things are technically (01:26:36) true but has that worked let's just talk (01:26:40) about the numbers Church attendance is (01:26:42) down evangelism is down we're less (01:26:43) Christian than ever before because (01:26:45) people look at Jesus as like Aramaic (01:26:48) Tony (01:26:50) Robbins okay (01:26:55) oh my God that's so funny he can improve (01:26:58) my life apply some of his (01:27:00) teachings and instead it's a complete so (01:27:04) he's not there as like a Dale Carnegie (01:27:07) self-help right yeah and so the but but (01:27:10) let me ask one other thing yeah the (01:27:12) gospel becomes (01:27:14) sweeter and your relationship with (01:27:16) Christ is real and truer when you (01:27:21) understand the stakes of the damnation (01:27:24) that you were saved from that's why (01:27:26) everybody says no one's an atheist in a (01:27:28) foxhole precisely exactly and and now I (01:27:32) was just about to tell you this because (01:27:33) B and I noticed this um because of my (01:27:35) show people know that I stand for the (01:27:37) truth of the Gospel um and so many young (01:27:40) kids are coming up to me so thirsty for (01:27:42) Jesus way way more than I was growing up (01:27:46) but we're in a dark spot right now so I (01:27:48) think what you're saying is there's a (01:27:50) reason why Jesus spoke more about hell (01:27:52) than Heaven he did no he talked more (01:27:54) about the end times and hell and (01:27:56) Damnation and for the judgment to come (01:27:58) and it can feel as a little cringe if (01:28:00) it's done incorrectly yes and it can (01:28:03) feel legalistic and prideful so when I (01:28:06) see that guy on the street you know what (01:28:08) I'm talking about right with the big (01:28:09) sign repent now it feels my soul yeah (01:28:13) and I think you probably feel that way (01:28:16) because he seems to get off on like (01:28:20) feeling better than you right right so (01:28:24) and Hate I feel differently about those (01:28:26) people do you like them I think of it (01:28:29) this way man I think they give religion (01:28:30) a bad name they do I think I used to (01:28:33) think this way because there is okay I (01:28:35) think it's like this right there's (01:28:36) people that are standing in your shoes (01:28:37) that do your job a good way and there's (01:28:39) people in your shoes that do it in a bad (01:28:40) way I there's something about there's (01:28:42) this guy who he doesn't even say (01:28:44) anything he just puts on music and he (01:28:45) just goes like this and it's a stick and (01:28:47) it says Jesus loves you but every day (01:28:49) all day he's just running around going (01:28:50) like this now that guy's in the same job (01:28:52) field as that other guy that's like (01:28:54) burning out (01:28:55) if you're gay you're going to hell like (01:28:56) that that guy that guy is like he's only (01:28:58) showing dark and hatred this guy is (01:29:00) wielding his sword and he's doing this (01:29:02) my thought process is 10 years ago if (01:29:04) George met this George he would be like (01:29:06) you're kind of acting like a lunatic (01:29:08) because I know a little bit more than I (01:29:09) used to wisdom comes with a lot of like (01:29:12) emotions because your eyes are open to a (01:29:14) lot so I try not to literally look at (01:29:16) them and be like this guy's a psychopath (01:29:19) because we don't know what God did in (01:29:21) this man's life or he dedicated his (01:29:23) whole day to just yeah and I I will say (01:29:26) that part of their impression is it (01:29:30) feels very similar to Sadducees (01:29:32) Pharisees hyper legalism so what what is (01:29:35) the right message then what sign should (01:29:36) they have is it Jesus loves you or is (01:29:39) that God condemns you it should be that (01:29:41) you need Jesus that's the sign the sign (01:29:43) should say is you need Jesus it should (01:29:45) be in the way that they're they're (01:29:47) giving the message you know needs to be (01:29:49) the one two combo if you only have one (01:29:52) then you look awfully cruel and (01:29:53) legalistic okay yes we are all facing an (01:29:55) eternal damnation because we are we are (01:30:00) totally depraved as humans but if you (01:30:02) have only two and you're like my sign (01:30:04) says Grace abounds and great life ahead (01:30:07) of you and you get Heaven if your (01:30:11) Christianity is nothing more than an (01:30:13) insurance plan for the (01:30:15) afterlife that is not a conversion that (01:30:18) is not legitimate Christianity if you're (01:30:20) like hey I went on Easter I raised my (01:30:22) hand just in case Christian thing is (01:30:25) right I'm going to heaven cuz I did the (01:30:27) thing and I signed the piece of paper (01:30:29) that is an insult to God and your hearts (01:30:32) not in the right place it's not it's you (01:30:33) acting as if God is there like Blue (01:30:37) Cross and Blue Shield in case you have a (01:30:38) broken leg 100% And then you'll never be (01:30:41) disciplined by God if you view it in a (01:30:43) legalistic way because you think that (01:30:44) it's laws and that you have to whereas (01:30:46) it should be because you want to and you (01:30:47) want to pleas that's exactly right and (01:30:50) and kind of kind of cuz I was on that (01:30:51) playing field but there's times where I (01:30:53) wanted to obey my parents and there's (01:30:55) sometimes I didn't want to obey my (01:30:56) parents but I still obeyed my parents (01:30:58) why because you love them and you want (01:31:00) to please them I honor them so sometimes (01:31:02) you do things that God doesn't like you (01:31:04) don't want to do it but God wants you to (01:31:07) do it yeah and it's it's it's hard to to (01:31:10) to that's why it's crucifying your flesh (01:31:12) that's that's right it is all that's why (01:31:14) I tell people like listen I'm not (01:31:15) bragging about smoking weed I'm stuck in (01:31:17) a foxhole that's why you'll never see me (01:31:18) promote it you'll never see me make (01:31:20) money off of it we'll get you out of it (01:31:21) not mean that there see that's being (01:31:23) disciplined by God like what you said (01:31:25) even though you don't want to do it you (01:31:26) do it because you know that it's right (01:31:28) and you want to do it for God that's (01:31:29) being disciplined by God versus looking (01:31:31) at it in a legalistic way and being like (01:31:33) I have to so here's the important point (01:31:35) though is that anything that indulges (01:31:37) the flesh comes with a cost so it's not (01:31:39) that God judges you and if you look at (01:31:41) the Ten Commandments not as like (01:31:43) restrictive rules for life it actually (01:31:45) you live a better life when you it's for (01:31:47) you not him that's right I tell people (01:31:48) God's not sitting on a throne being like (01:31:51) they're worshiping me more I'm becoming (01:31:53) stronger he's like no bro this is for (01:31:55) you dude it's do it or not it's for you (01:31:57) it's not for me you live a better (01:31:58) happier more joyful life if you listen (01:32:01) to God's commands and again I don't need (01:32:03) to do like oh look at this study but (01:32:05) think about it people with larger (01:32:07) families and more children and great (01:32:10) marriages people who tell the truth who (01:32:12) are not cheating on their spouses people (01:32:14) who are honoring their parents people (01:32:15) that believe in God people that aren't (01:32:17) stealing they're living a better life (01:32:20) think about the torment you know it (01:32:21) anybody in your life they're constantly (01:32:23) lying they're cheating on their (01:32:25) girlfriend or spouse are they living (01:32:27) good lives no they're living a fake life (01:32:28) so that and that is because in God's (01:32:31) economy that his rules for us that the (01:32:35) cost is already actually partially here (01:32:38) you live a rather tormented Twisted life (01:32:41) you cannot live a fulfilling beautiful (01:32:44) deep Christ centered life one that is (01:32:47) truly joyful and violate his teachings (01:32:50) or his commands to your point though you (01:32:53) ultimately do the things not to get (01:32:57) saved you do them because you are saved (01:33:00) that once you are saved you do those (01:33:02) things because of that free gift of (01:33:04) Eternal salvation amen I had Dr Jordan (01:33:07) Peterson on he's great I said you know (01:33:09) you you you're always welcome to bring (01:33:11) Heaven to Earth you don't have to wait (01:33:13) till die to bring Heaven to Earth and he (01:33:15) hit me with you could also bring hell (01:33:17) well that's right and that's what the (01:33:18) 20th century was that's crazy and and (01:33:20) that's part of why I do what I do is I'm (01:33:22) afraid that we are ushering in the lower (01:33:25) impulses of the Demonic into the West (01:33:28) we're institutionalizing them we are (01:33:29) living through we're celebrating (01:33:32) it before we wrap I want to know what (01:33:34) your next three to five year plan is boy (01:33:38) uh raise good children be a good (01:33:41) husband um keep growing the podcast uh (01:33:44) keep growing all of our social channels (01:33:47) keep growing turning point and uh (01:33:48) Turning Point action hopefully Turning (01:33:50) Point action our political vehicle will (01:33:52) be successful this November with Trump (01:33:53) we don't know uh that's up to God but (01:33:55) we're going to do our part and so I want (01:33:57) to live in a free Society I believe this (01:33:59) country is unbelievably blessed by God I (01:34:01) don't believe God has done with this (01:34:03) country and if this country Falls the (01:34:06) entire world will go into a state of (01:34:08) Oblivion and darkness and to Jordan's (01:34:10) point and Jordan is probably one of the (01:34:12) best teachers on this the 20th century (01:34:14) teaches us that hell can't come on Earth (01:34:16) the 20th century for 20 years was the (01:34:18) worst thing ever to happen where 180 (01:34:21) million people died (01:34:24) from intentional starvation to (01:34:25) dislocation to mous China to the Soviet (01:34:28) Union to the Holocaust to ppts Cambodia (01:34:31) we saw it in every Contin every corner (01:34:33) Darkness can come but light must refute (01:34:35) the darkness and so I want to do my part (01:34:38) to contest for the good thank you for (01:34:40) that thank you to wrap up I wanted to (01:34:41) share with you that I'm an Assyrian man (01:34:43) and my bloodline goes to when one of the (01:34:46) Kings nope uh Jonah was sent to save us (01:34:49) Nineveh when he said no I'm not going to (01:34:52) Nineveh and got thrown off boat into the (01:34:55) water and spent three days in a whale (01:34:57) fish it's a fish yeah but I find it (01:35:00) fascinating that story and I wanted to (01:35:02) talk about our people I don't think (01:35:04) turning around our country has to do (01:35:07) with our work I think it has to do with (01:35:08) our repentance I agree completely I (01:35:10) think if we get enough of our people and (01:35:12) our neighbors if we love God with all of (01:35:15) our heart and we love our neighbors as (01:35:17) ourselves and we could we could explain (01:35:19) to them that we're we're all on the same (01:35:21) boat let's just start repenting to God (01:35:23) that's but let let's continue on the (01:35:25) theme previously you can only repent if (01:35:27) you believe you've wrong you've done (01:35:29) something wrong yeah and so if you (01:35:31) aren't teaching the law then what are (01:35:34) you repenting from but check this out (01:35:36) when you were in fifth grade and I was (01:35:37) young it was the Holy Spirit that (01:35:39) changed our hearts that's correct so we (01:35:41) should tell our brothers and sisters (01:35:42) let's have the Holy Spirit take the (01:35:44) vehicle now that's right and so we want (01:35:46) Revival in America you cannot have (01:35:48) Revival without repentance yep and and (01:35:51) in second chronicles or maybe 1 (01:35:52) Chronicles it says my people will show (01:35:55) their face to the Lord and repent of (01:35:57) their sins amen and absent a mass of (01:35:59) repentance now what does repentance take (01:36:01) it's a very deep topic it requires truth (01:36:04) you must know what you've wronged and (01:36:05) humility there is a God and I am not (01:36:10) him this is a great episode thank you so (01:36:12) much for thank you guys very much God (01:36:14) bless we'll talk soon thank you