Top Natural Remedies That Actually Work | Barbara O’Neill (YouTube Video Transcript)

(00:00:00) Your YouTube transcript will appear here (00:00:00) There's been this idea especially I know (00:00:03) living in the United States and it's (00:00:04) probably true for most of the Western (00:00:06) world that we have to rely on someone (00:00:08) else for our health. You have to go to (00:00:09) the doctor rather than caring for for (00:00:12) yourself and for your family. (00:00:13) >> I'm not against doctors. Some of my best (00:00:15) friends are doctors and I'm sure you'll (00:00:17) be one of my best friends now that I (00:00:19) think most doctors are ethical but the (00:00:21) pharmaceutical company is not. The (00:00:24) doctors should stop putting their trust (00:00:26) in [music] the pharmaceutical company. (00:00:27) >> Wow, that's so good. (00:00:28) >> They must stop. They trust that they've (00:00:31) done the [music] research and we've seen (00:00:33) it in the paper many times, the (00:00:34) whistleblower. They're they're not doing (00:00:36) the testing. They're not. You see, drugs (00:00:39) never cure disease. And some might say, (00:00:40) "Well, [music] Baba, can you really say (00:00:42) never?" You can say never because they (00:00:45) only mask symptoms. It's the body and (00:00:47) the body alone is the only the only (00:00:51) thing that has the capacity to heal. (00:00:53) Now, that changed my life. What do you (00:00:57) think are maybe three or so of the (00:00:59) biggest mistakes people are making that (00:01:01) they're just totally unaware of that's (00:01:03) really harming their health? (00:01:15) [music] (00:01:21) >> [music] (00:01:26) >> Hey everyone, welcome to Dr. Josh Axe (00:01:28) Show. Today I have an incredible guest. (00:01:30) I'm a huge fan of Barbara O'Neal. Uh (00:01:33) she's been a legend in the space. You (00:01:34) know, I got turned on to her during co I (00:01:36) started watching many of her videos (00:01:37) online and she does such an incredible (00:01:40) job of taking complex health matters and (00:01:42) making them simple. We're going to talk (00:01:44) about female hormones, fertility, (00:01:46) women's hormones, biblical health, and (00:01:49) some maybe even controversial views we (00:01:51) both have about conventional medicine (00:01:53) and natural medicine. Barbara, welcome (00:01:54) to the show. (00:01:55) >> Thanks. It's great to be here. (00:01:57) >> Well, again, I'm a huge fan of you. When (00:01:58) I told my mother-in-law, my mom, my (00:02:00) wife, everybody I was coming on to, they (00:02:02) were extremely excited because uh you've (00:02:04) done such an amazing job of taking uh I (00:02:07) think something that a lot of health (00:02:09) topics that people maybe knew about (00:02:10) quite a few years ago that sort of been (00:02:12) lost. And one of those topics I want to (00:02:14) dive into first is related to hormone (00:02:16) health. Actually, before I do that (00:02:17) though, I would love to know a little (00:02:18) bit about sort of your background of how (00:02:20) you got into the natural medicine space. (00:02:23) Well, I was I'm a fifth generation (00:02:25) Australian, Scottish descent. So, I was (00:02:27) brought up in your average Aussie home. (00:02:30) Little bit of a Scottish there because I (00:02:32) I learned Scottish dancing as a child. (00:02:34) Five kids. My father and my brother were (00:02:37) inventors. And everything that came into (00:02:39) the home, they pulled apart. They wanted (00:02:41) to know how it worked. And I couldn't (00:02:43) get my license till I learned how a (00:02:45) engine works. You know, this was the (00:02:48) environment I grew up in. We questioned (00:02:50) everything except medicine. (00:02:53) >> You never questioned medicine. And I (00:02:55) never even thought about that until my (00:02:57) first daughter had an ear ache and four (00:03:01) courses of antibiotics later, 6 weeks (00:03:04) later, the earachche comes back. (00:03:06) >> Yeah. (00:03:06) >> Now I'm confronted, (00:03:09) very confronted with this is not (00:03:11) working. As the doctor writes the fifth (00:03:14) course, I said, "Will my daughter be on (00:03:16) this for the rest of her life?" He was (00:03:18) confronted with my question and he (00:03:20) should have been. (00:03:21) >> Yeah. (00:03:21) >> And he sent me to an ear, nose, and (00:03:23) throat specialist. She looked in Emma's (00:03:25) mouth, in her ears. He said, "The (00:03:27) child's teething. Give her these drops (00:03:29) to keep the ustation tubes clean." (00:03:32) >> So when my next child had an ear, I did (00:03:34) not go to the doctor. I did not tell (00:03:35) anyone because you get pressure. They'll (00:03:37) go deaf. Don't you don't (00:03:39) >> I went to the old lady next door. So I (00:03:41) must have been about 26. She's 86. I (00:03:44) said, "What did your mother do when you (00:03:46) were a little girl?" and had an earache. (00:03:48) She said she steamed an onion on the (00:03:50) stove. I ran home, steamed the onion, (00:03:52) put it on his ear. He slept for 2 hours. (00:03:54) I don't think he's ever had another (00:03:55) earachche. (00:03:56) >> Wow. (00:03:56) >> Now, that changed my life. (00:04:00) I thought there's something else. But, (00:04:03) you know, to this day, I'm very thankful (00:04:05) for that feeling. Not wanting to give my (00:04:08) child any more drugs, not wanting to (00:04:10) hurt my child, but not knowing what to (00:04:13) do. And that really has spurned me on to (00:04:19) educate, educate, educate, to show the (00:04:22) world, especially mothers, there's (00:04:25) something else. (00:04:26) >> Yeah, you do such an amazing job. I I (00:04:28) especially think of your whiteboard (00:04:30) videos where you sort of walk us through (00:04:32) uh exactly uh how people can heal. And (00:04:35) this is something, you know, uh I think, (00:04:37) you know, doctors or health (00:04:40) practitioners need to be teachers and (00:04:42) educators. And this is something you do (00:04:43) a great job of. And one of the areas (00:04:45) I've seen you do a lot of education on (00:04:47) is around women's hormones, fertility. (00:04:49) I'd love to start there and diving into (00:04:51) women's hormones because what happens (00:04:53) today, you know, most of the time women (00:04:55) have an issue like hypothyroidism, PCOS, (00:04:58) severe menopausal symptoms, and their (00:05:00) doctor says, "Here's cthroidid." (00:05:03) >> Yeah. (00:05:03) >> Here's hormone replacement therapy. And (00:05:06) two others that have become big are (00:05:09) thyroid and osteoporosis and depression. (00:05:12) Th this is big. So I have the advantage (00:05:16) of being the health director at our (00:05:18) health retreat for 23 years. So a lot of (00:05:20) women came through through our doors and (00:05:23) I would like to suggest that about (00:05:27) >> oh 85% of women that came through the (00:05:29) doors whether they be nine whether they (00:05:31) be 90 a hormonal imbalance. So coming (00:05:35) from my roots, I want to know why. (00:05:37) >> Yeah. (00:05:37) >> Why? (00:05:39) And I found out why. One of them is the (00:05:42) contraceptive pill. (00:05:43) >> That's right. (00:05:43) >> It disrupts the hormones. And no one (00:05:45) ever told women that it was a hormone (00:05:49) disruptor. (00:05:50) >> You know, there was a study that came (00:05:51) out recently that said if women take the (00:05:53) pill longterm, birth control, their (00:05:55) chance of getting hypothyroidism goes up (00:05:56) by nearly 300%. (00:05:58) >> Oh, it doesn't surprise me. and breast (00:06:01) cancer and polycystic ovarian syndrome (00:06:03) and fibroids and endometriosis. (00:06:07) There was basically (00:06:09) >> endometriosis was virtually not until (00:06:13) the pill was introduced. So it's not (00:06:15) hard to link those figures together. (00:06:17) >> Yeah. (00:06:18) >> Now there are some women that have never (00:06:20) been on the pill, neither their mother. (00:06:22) So then we're looking elsewhere and (00:06:24) we've got environmental poisons. In the (00:06:26) molecular structure of estrogen, there's (00:06:28) a phenol ring. And the plastic softening (00:06:33) chemical that's in nearly every plastic (00:06:35) bottle that's in in cars, in the, you (00:06:38) know, the dashboard, it's all got a (00:06:41) fennel in it. One's bisphenol, another (00:06:43) one is nonoffenel. (00:06:45) >> Yeah. (00:06:46) >> Also, growth stimulants in chickens. (00:06:48) It's in the chicken. It's in the egg. in (00:06:51) cattle and cleaning products. People are (00:06:53) using chemical fabrics. So I've got (00:06:57) woolen skirt, I have got wool and top. I (00:07:00) love wool. (00:07:01) >> Yeah. (00:07:01) >> But the fabric that most women are (00:07:03) wearing is nylon, acrylic, and polyester (00:07:06) >> and they are three fabrics that were (00:07:08) created in a chemical laboratory. (00:07:10) >> Yeah. (00:07:11) >> And our skin our skin is a it breathes. (00:07:14) It absorbs. So when it's touching the (00:07:16) skin, we're taking it in. Now all of (00:07:19) these areas I've just mentioned little (00:07:21) by little like the dripping tap on a (00:07:23) stone are disrupting disrupting that (00:07:27) that hormone balance and our body runs (00:07:30) according to precision balance. (00:07:32) >> Yeah. (00:07:32) >> So this disruption is causing all the (00:07:36) problems we're seeing which are some of (00:07:38) them we just mentioned. Now, what are (00:07:40) some of the things like if you were (00:07:41) working with a woman and she has and (00:07:44) then and you could you could hit on (00:07:45) these al together or categorically but (00:07:48) these common conditions hypothyroidism (00:07:50) being one PCOS infertility some of those (00:07:53) issues what are some of the things that (00:07:55) you start to recommend women do to bring (00:07:56) their hormones back into balance. (00:07:59) Now you asked me first of all what was (00:08:01) my journey. There was another part of my (00:08:03) journey is when I became a Christian. (00:08:06) >> I became a Christian at the age of about (00:08:08) 26 27 (00:08:10) >> and I discovered health from the Bible. (00:08:12) And there's a verse in there at Psalm (00:08:14) 104:14 that God gave herbs for the (00:08:17) service of man. I love that verse the (00:08:20) service. I'm here to serve you. Where (00:08:22) would you like me? What would you have (00:08:24) me do? Whereas drugs, they're like (00:08:26) robots. Get out of my way. That's right. (00:08:29) I'm going to force you to do something (00:08:30) the body doesn't want. (00:08:31) >> I got a job to do whether you need it or (00:08:33) not. So see a mark difference. The wild (00:08:36) yam contains a plant chemical called (00:08:39) diogenin. (00:08:41) >> And when that wild yam is um made into a (00:08:45) oil-based cream and that cream is (00:08:48) applied to the skin, the fat cells take (00:08:50) it up and it stimulates the biochemical (00:08:53) pathway in the body that the body uses (00:08:55) to make progesterone. (00:08:56) >> Yeah. Wow. Now progesterone's mother (00:08:58) hormone. So mother hormone overall and (00:09:02) unfortunately what the pill does it (00:09:04) displaces progesterone and boosts up (00:09:07) estrogen. (00:09:08) >> Yeah. (00:09:08) >> So the way to remedy that imbalance (00:09:11) which is estrogen dominant progesterone (00:09:13) deficiency is reinstate mother. And (00:09:17) that's what the yam cream does. (00:09:19) >> It stimulates the body (00:09:21) >> to reinstate progesterone. Wow. (00:09:23) >> And when you boost progesterone, it (00:09:26) brings estrogen down. It it rebalances (00:09:29) testosterone. It brings everything back (00:09:31) into balance. (00:09:32) >> You know, I uh I I was I was reading on (00:09:35) this a little bit about yams and sweet (00:09:37) potatoes and this amazing compound (00:09:38) you're sharing. And obviously, I think (00:09:40) eating those is fantastic, but as you're (00:09:42) mentioning, the cream is going to be a (00:09:43) little bit higher dose, higher (00:09:44) absorption. There are great benefits (00:09:46) there. There's a a uh paper that came (00:09:48) out two months ago that said Japan now (00:09:51) has 95,000 centurions. So, think about (00:09:54) almost 100,000 people over 100 years (00:09:56) old. It's amazing. And hormone (00:09:57) replacement there is virtually (00:09:59) non-existent. But one of the top two, I (00:10:02) think, sources of carbohydrates they (00:10:03) consume are purple sweet potatoes. It's (00:10:05) a big part of their diet, especially (00:10:06) women going through menopause. And so, I (00:10:08) think one of those reasons might be that (00:10:11) in boosting yin, boosting progesterone, (00:10:12) as you're sharing. [snorts] I absolutely (00:10:14) love that. Well, what are your what are (00:10:16) your thoughts on is there anything in (00:10:18) particular or herbs or uh things that (00:10:21) you like for women who are really (00:10:22) struggling with hypothyroidism or (00:10:24) Hashimoto's? (00:10:26) >> Well, there's an excellent book called (00:10:28) Iodine, why you need it and why you (00:10:30) can't live without it by Dr. David Brain (00:10:33) um Brownstein. Yeah. Now he is uh the (00:10:37) the thyroid expert in the world. Yeah. (00:10:39) >> And he shows that under and overactive (00:10:42) thyroid can both be due to iodine (00:10:44) deficiency. (00:10:45) >> Yeah. (00:10:46) >> And you know they used to use iodine as (00:10:49) a bread improver but now they've (00:10:51) replaced it with um iodine competers. (00:10:55) >> But also berries. Berries are sprayed (00:10:59) with another chemical that's an iodine. (00:11:03) It's like a broomemide that's an iodine (00:11:05) compet. (00:11:06) >> So there's we're exposed to so many (00:11:08) things that are causing this disruption (00:11:10) in in the iodine. (00:11:13) >> And another point is too mercury (00:11:16) fillings. Mercury has an affinity for (00:11:18) selenium (00:11:19) >> and the thyroid needs selenium to (00:11:22) convert iodine into thyroxine. So, can (00:11:25) you see someone be could be having berry (00:11:27) smoothies every day and uh mer mouthful (00:11:31) of mercury fillings and be having (00:11:34) thyroid problems and their mother was on (00:11:36) the pill and not many people and not (00:11:39) many even doctors know those threads (00:11:42) that come together. (00:11:43) >> So, get the mercury out of them out of (00:11:46) the mouth. See a biological dentist. (00:11:48) >> And if you're going to have berries, (00:11:51) have organic. (00:11:52) And if you're going to eat bread, make (00:11:55) sure it's the ancient grains and it's (00:11:57) not being grown with glyphosate, another (00:12:00) chemical that can disrupt the hormones. (00:12:03) >> And do an iodine test. So you put h say (00:12:06) lugal solution, which has iodine and (00:12:08) iodide on the on the inside of your arm (00:12:11) and it'll make a brown smudge. We often (00:12:13) do at our health retreat. Ladies, let's (00:12:15) all have a look at at how long it stays. (00:12:18) >> Now, if it's gone in an hour, your (00:12:20) iodine levels are low. And if it's still (00:12:22) got some semblance of color five hours (00:12:25) later, your iodine levels are good. So I (00:12:28) like to empower people to be their own (00:12:30) doctor. So here's a little test that you (00:12:32) can do for yourself. What if it's gone (00:12:33) in an hour? We'll put it on every day (00:12:35) till it stays for five. (00:12:37) >> There you go. (00:12:37) >> It can be as simple as that. (00:12:39) >> You know, one thing I think we've lost (00:12:40) the art of, I think I think there's been (00:12:42) this idea, especially I know living in (00:12:45) the United States, and it's probably (00:12:46) true for most of the Western world, that (00:12:48) we have to rely on someone else for our (00:12:50) health. like like you have to go to the (00:12:52) doctor (00:12:53) >> rather than caring for for yourself and (00:12:56) for your family. And I think that this (00:12:58) is this is so important. This is one of (00:12:59) the things I really respect about you is (00:13:01) empowering moms and dads to learn about (00:13:04) these things practices at home. You (00:13:05) know, I had a uh a functional medicine (00:13:07) practice in Nashville, took care of a (00:13:08) lot of kids. And ear infections is one (00:13:10) of the most common things I see with (00:13:12) this where kids will get ear infections (00:13:14) and then their doctor puts this fear in (00:13:17) them that if they don't take an (00:13:19) antibiotic, their kid could likely die. (00:13:21) And the reality is that the statistics (00:13:23) don't prove that your own body is (00:13:25) creating heat and interferon to kill (00:13:27) this virus. But but but parents are so (00:13:29) fearful today often times of of (00:13:31) sometimes even trying some of these (00:13:33) remedies that I know I teach and you (00:13:34) teach even more so. (00:13:35) >> That's true. Cuz I know with my (00:13:37) daughter, they said she'll go deaf. (00:13:39) >> Yeah. (00:13:41) >> Well, she didn't go deaf. And I raised (00:13:44) five more children and then married (00:13:47) Michael 28 years ago with his two. So we (00:13:49) we actually raised eight children with (00:13:52) no antibiotics. And I say to people, (00:13:53) they're all still alive. (00:13:55) >> Yeah. (00:13:55) >> The the body's been designed by God to (00:13:59) heal itself. (00:14:00) >> That's right. (00:14:01) >> And it just needs the right conditions. (00:14:03) Back to thyroid. Yeah. High estrogen (00:14:05) opposes thyroid function. (00:14:07) >> So very important part of getting the (00:14:10) thyroid working again is taking the or (00:14:13) applying the wild yam cream. Dr. John (00:14:15) Lee is probably the first physician that (00:14:17) blew the whistle on this back in the 80s (00:14:20) 90s. He's passed now but you can still (00:14:22) see podcast by him and he said that when (00:14:26) you eat the yam you your liver (00:14:29) detoxifies almost 400%. M (00:14:32) >> and that's why the cream (00:14:34) >> so you can pick up so much more and you (00:14:36) mentioned earlier you can get a heavier (00:14:38) dose a more effective dose um by (00:14:42) applying it to the skin. I think that's (00:14:44) helpful to know. (00:14:45) >> I love it. It's so powerful. So some (00:14:46) just just takeaways one reducing the (00:14:49) toxic exposure staying away from a lot (00:14:51) of the plastic silver fillings. I know (00:14:52) my own mom who she had a battle with (00:14:54) cancer and uh one of the things we did (00:14:57) to help her heal she had 12 silver (00:14:59) fillings in her mouth amalgams had them (00:15:01) all removed and she had dealt with (00:15:02) chronic fatigue syndrome hypothyroidism (00:15:04) and it was amazing I mean really just (00:15:06) even weeks after getting rid of those (00:15:07) fillings (00:15:08) >> she felt a lift in her energy I mean (00:15:10) there's a real real difference and a lot (00:15:11) of these metals they're blocking (00:15:13) receptor sites for what you're talking (00:15:14) about iodine for selenium we're not even (00:15:16) absorbing these things and so I love (00:15:18) that you're sharing that I was watching (00:15:19) a video of yours here just a little bit (00:15:21) before we started the interview on you (00:15:23) talking about the importance of the gut (00:15:24) microbiome because it's not only you (00:15:26) know we heard this principle we are what (00:15:28) you eat but really as you've said you (00:15:31) are what you absorb. Talk to us about (00:15:34) how to get the gut microbiome healthy. (00:15:36) Some of your favorite plants for doing (00:15:37) that and why it's so important. (00:15:39) >> Well, you got to get the poisons out and (00:15:41) antibiotics slaughter gut flora. (00:15:43) Chemotherapy slaughter the gut. (00:15:46) A lot of people don't realize that the (00:15:47) statin drugs, the cholesterol lowering (00:15:49) medication, and that's of course the (00:15:52) pharmaceutical company's star child cuz (00:15:55) they've made not millions, not (00:15:58) trillions, but billions out of that (00:16:01) medication. And yet that just slaughters (00:16:04) gut flora. Long-term painkiller use can (00:16:07) also slaughter gut flora. So, we got to (00:16:09) stop what's slaughtering it. (00:16:11) >> Yes. And we've got to re reinstate the (00:16:14) good stuff. When you when you consider (00:16:17) that 70% of our immune system is (00:16:19) established by our gut flora, we want we (00:16:22) want that gut flora. The good news is (00:16:24) there are some cultured foods that you (00:16:25) can take and that will help to boost it (00:16:28) like sauerkraut. (00:16:30) >> Um kimchi um um bak choy that's often (00:16:35) made also into a uh sauerkraut. (00:16:38) Sauerkrauts are good. and miso is (00:16:41) another one. Kea, yogurts, you can get (00:16:43) some nice plant-based yogurts. Now, they (00:16:46) all help to (00:16:48) >> restore gut flora. (00:16:50) >> But what feeds gut flora is prebiotics. (00:16:52) And prebiotic is fiber. (00:16:54) >> Yeah. (00:16:55) >> And the more variety in fiber you have, (00:16:57) the more gut flora you're going to feed. (00:17:00) >> For instance, you can have 10 different (00:17:01) types of apples and they will feed 10 (00:17:04) different types of gut flora. (00:17:06) >> Wow. (00:17:07) >> Isn't that incredible? (00:17:08) >> It is amazing. It's so amazing. (00:17:10) >> Yeah. So, fried variety is the spice of (00:17:12) life. Variety is the spice of life to (00:17:14) our gut. (00:17:15) >> Yeah, that's right. (00:17:16) >> Variet in the vegetable kingdom. (00:17:18) >> That's right. I love that. It's so (00:17:19) powerful. Yeah. Yeah, I mean the gut (00:17:21) microbiome is is something I've been uh (00:17:24) very aware of with my career because you (00:17:26) know what there there is so much it's (00:17:28) like 99% of the way I practice is not (00:17:30) things I learned in school you know and (00:17:32) so when I started seeing patients I I (00:17:35) was very surprised when I first started (00:17:36) a functional medicine practice because (00:17:38) then school they don't tell you that (00:17:40) every woman coming in is going to have (00:17:41) hypothyroidism and every male is going (00:17:43) to come have low testosterone and every (00:17:45) person almost is going to have leaky gut (00:17:47) some sort of gut issue and it's so (00:17:49) prevalent And um but I remember uh (00:17:53) really focusing on especially early in (00:17:55) my career healing the gut and it helps (00:17:56) so many conditions get well. One of the (00:17:59) other things I've heard you talk about (00:18:00) is certain natural plants and their (00:18:02) benefits. As as I was uh watching a (00:18:04) video of you earlier, you were talking (00:18:05) about the benefits of things like I want (00:18:07) to say aloe and certain other herbals. (00:18:09) Share with us some of your favorite (00:18:10) herbals and plant-based medicines for (00:18:12) helping heal the gut. (00:18:13) >> Well, when you when you open an aloe (00:18:15) vera plant, it's slimy. (00:18:18) >> Yeah. And if you look at the inside of (00:18:20) your lip, it's slimy. It's the same. (00:18:24) >> Yes. Exactly. (00:18:25) >> But aloe vera contains a growth (00:18:27) stimulant and it stimulates rapid (00:18:30) healing (00:18:31) >> in the lining of the gut. Now, our gut (00:18:34) cells are remade every 3 to 5 days. So, (00:18:37) with gut problems, you can heal them (00:18:40) quite quickly once the right condition (00:18:43) is given. But you've got to remember (00:18:44) that the gut has memory. So, you got to (00:18:47) change that around a bit. So, how do you (00:18:50) take the aloe vera? Because it's (00:18:52) actually not very nice to eat. Some (00:18:54) people will put it in a smoothie. You (00:18:57) could scrape the gel and mash it up and (00:18:59) put it with a little apple juice mainly. (00:19:02) So, it'll coat and soothe. Great for a (00:19:04) sore throat, great for ulcer in the (00:19:06) stomach, great for irritable bowel all (00:19:08) the way down. It's great for that. (00:19:10) >> Well, if you think about it like this, (00:19:11) so like ulcers for instance, it's (00:19:13) essentially a burn. And alo of course (00:19:15) aloe is great for burns on your skin but (00:19:18) these burns and people don't think about (00:19:19) it like that. you got these burns almost (00:19:20) these canker like soores throughout our (00:19:22) digestive lining obviously ulcer of (00:19:25) colitis is a great example that's some (00:19:26) of these forms of IBD (00:19:28) >> fantastic in fact we've seen people (00:19:30) totally heal from irritable bowel (00:19:32) Crohn's disease colitis gastritis you (00:19:36) name it (00:19:37) >> that they heal nicely the other herb is (00:19:39) slipp (00:19:40) >> oh yeah (00:19:40) >> and slipp is the powdered bark of the (00:19:42) slipper elm tree and when you mix hot (00:19:46) water with it it goes like a soft jelly (00:19:49) Yeah. (00:19:49) >> So again, nice and slimy for the (00:19:51) [laughter] (00:19:52) >> for the lining of the gut. It also (00:19:55) contains a growth stimulant. So I just (00:19:58) love Psalm 104:14. God gave herbs for (00:20:01) the service of man. So these herbs come (00:20:03) in, they coat, soothe, and help to heal (00:20:06) the lining of the gut. (00:20:07) >> It's so powerful. You know, I wrote a I (00:20:09) I wrote this really short little ebook (00:20:11) years ago, and it was called The King's (00:20:13) Medicine Cabinet. And in the book uh I I (00:20:16) kind of posed in the first just again (00:20:18) this is a free ebook I just gave away (00:20:20) online and in the book I said if we (00:20:22) would go back to the time of King David, (00:20:24) King Solomon, Queen Esther and we would (00:20:26) have opened up their medicine cabinet, (00:20:28) what would we have found in a biblical (00:20:30) medicine cabinet thousands of years ago? (00:20:31) What do you think we would have found in (00:20:32) those biblical medicine cabinets? (00:20:33) >> I'm sure there'd be comry there. (00:20:35) >> Yes. Yeah. (00:20:37) >> Comry is the other plant that has a (00:20:38) growth stimulant. You got to be careful (00:20:40) where you put it or it'll take over your (00:20:42) garden cuz it's got a growth stimulant (00:20:44) in it. (00:20:44) >> Wow. (00:20:45) >> And so I was in a Robert Louis Stevenson (00:20:48) a museum in one of the islands where he (00:20:50) apparently lived for a while and in the (00:20:53) medicine cabinet I saw comry. (00:20:56) >> Wow. [laughter] Wow. Amazing. (00:20:57) >> I think there would have been comry. I (00:20:59) think there would have been charcoal. (00:21:01) Charcoal absorbs and neutralizes (00:21:03) poisons. Even medicine use it now. Do (00:21:05) you know they filter blood for dialysis (00:21:07) with charcoal? And if someone has an (00:21:09) overdose, they give them charcoal. It (00:21:11) absorbs and neutralizes poisons. There's (00:21:13) nothing else on the planet like (00:21:15) charcoal. I'm sure there would have been (00:21:17) charcoal there. And depending on where (00:21:19) they lived as to what herbs and what (00:21:21) foods would have been available. (00:21:23) >> Yeah. Yeah. I uh you know, we we read (00:21:26) about the three wise men bringing, you (00:21:28) know, Jesus gold, but frankincense and (00:21:30) myrrh. We know those were used for (00:21:31) medicine. (00:21:32) >> Don't forget the frankincense and don't (00:21:33) forget the myrrh. (00:21:34) >> That's right. Yeah. I had actually read (00:21:37) um back uh many years ago during that (00:21:39) time that when women were in labor post (00:21:41) pregnancy, they gave myrrh to keep women (00:21:43) from getting infection and for (00:21:44) recovering faster. That was pretty (00:21:46) amazing. I know. Um a few other uh herbs (00:21:49) that Solomon references are uh he (00:21:52) mentions sandalwoods which is aloe by (00:21:55) the way. He just mentioned aloe. So (00:21:56) people don't realize that aloe is in the (00:21:58) Bible but that's actually referenced as (00:21:59) part of sandalwood. And then the other (00:22:00) one is saffron. He actually mentioned (00:22:03) saffron, which is all these benefits for (00:22:05) mood and sleep. So, I love I love that (00:22:06) you're quoting Psalms 104 because um (00:22:10) >> the Bible to me is the greatest health (00:22:12) book ever written. (00:22:14) >> It's the greatest medical book that has (00:22:17) ever been written. And you know what I (00:22:19) found interesting? When I was a little (00:22:21) girl in the Presbyterian church, cuz I (00:22:23) was raised Scottish, (00:22:24) >> you heard about Daniel in the lion's (00:22:26) den. You heard about Daniel's three (00:22:29) friends in the fiery furnace. thrilling (00:22:31) stories, but we never heard about Daniel (00:22:33) chapter 1. (00:22:35) >> And Daniel chapter 1 is when one young (00:22:38) Daniel's about 16 taken captive and (00:22:42) they're going to give be given the (00:22:43) king's food and wine and Daniel and his (00:22:46) three friends said no. (00:22:48) >> Yeah. (00:22:49) >> Now, that's quite a stand for a (00:22:50) 16-year-old boy to say, "I'm not going (00:22:52) to eat at the king's table." That he (00:22:54) could have lost his head. (00:22:55) >> Yeah. But the Bible says that the prince (00:22:58) had favor with Daniel. (00:23:00) >> And so he allowed him to go 10 days with (00:23:04) just pulse, which is vegetables, and (00:23:06) water to drink. And after 10 days, it (00:23:09) said their faces were fairer and fatter (00:23:12) than all the other young men. So they (00:23:15) allowed to just have (00:23:17) >> water to drink and a plant-based diet (00:23:19) for three years. And at the end of three (00:23:21) years, the Bible says that the king (00:23:22) tested them and they were 10 times (00:23:25) smarter than all the wise men in the (00:23:29) well, Babylon. That was the the known (00:23:32) world at that time. (00:23:33) >> That's amazing. (00:23:34) >> And so that that's a story I never heard (00:23:36) of. (00:23:36) >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There are one of, you (00:23:39) know, I I recently was writing a book on (00:23:41) the on a biblical diet. And one of the (00:23:43) things it was so fun to do over the past (00:23:45) couple years and and I've I've done this (00:23:46) for quite a few years already, but (00:23:48) really saying, "Okay, I'm going to write (00:23:49) a book on it." So, every time I read (00:23:51) read through the Bible, it was like I (00:23:52) was using a microscope or a magnifying (00:23:55) glass looking for what are those quotes (00:23:57) about health. And they are throughout (00:23:59) the entire Bible. Like I started (00:24:00) learning that uh twothirds of Jesus (00:24:03) parables he taught were on farming and (00:24:05) food. (00:24:06) >> Yeah. (00:24:06) >> I mean, his miracles, the fish, the (00:24:08) loaves of bread. I mean, the the Bible (00:24:10) communion in terms of what you're doing (00:24:12) there, there's (00:24:14) >> you spent more time healing than (00:24:16) preaching. (00:24:16) >> That's right. It's amazing. It's so (00:24:18) amazing. And so I uh I appreciate so (00:24:21) much how you appreciate the Bible. I've (00:24:23) heard you talk about the Bible uh in (00:24:25) those talks as well. So So you talked (00:24:26) about the Daniel and sometimes we call (00:24:28) that the Daniel fast today. What are (00:24:30) some of the benefits of fasting? Is that (00:24:32) something that you ever recommend for (00:24:33) for anyone you're working with or for (00:24:35) overall health? Well, at our health (00:24:37) retreat in Australia, Misty Mountain (00:24:39) Health Retreat, guests come in for (00:24:41) either one week or two weeks, they come (00:24:43) in on a Sunday, we give them a beautiful (00:24:45) meal and then in the afternoon they have (00:24:48) a steamed sauna and we just serve them a (00:24:50) thin soup at night and then Monday, (00:24:52) Tuesday are juicing days and every two (00:24:55) hours we serve a fresh vegetable light (00:24:58) fruit juice. So they first two days are (00:25:00) fasting days and they steam saun at the (00:25:04) end of every day because that stimulates (00:25:06) their skin to throw off more waste and (00:25:10) >> we found we find that it's a very (00:25:12) effective because the stomach is very (00:25:14) happy when it gets a little rest. (00:25:16) >> Yes. [laughter] (00:25:16) [gasps] (00:25:17) >> And we say to our guests, you couldn't (00:25:19) eat in a day what we put in your juices. (00:25:22) So what we do is we nutritionally (00:25:24) support the body. we nutritionally (00:25:26) support the liver to effectively (00:25:28) detoxify them. Cuz when you're not (00:25:30) eating solid food, takes about 1,200 (00:25:33) calories to digest a meal. So when (00:25:35) you're not digesting the meal, then the (00:25:37) body's looking around for something to (00:25:38) do. So it'll go to the parts of the body (00:25:41) with the greatest need. And that's the (00:25:45) theory as to why it's been used for (00:25:47) centuries to help people heal. (00:25:50) >> It's amazing. So my mom um had cancer (00:25:53) when she was 41. and she had breast (00:25:55) cancer and then about 18 years later she (00:25:58) was diagnosed with cancer again on her (00:25:59) lung and that second time first time we (00:26:02) went all conventional second time we did (00:26:03) all natural and the diet you're (00:26:05) describing is very similar what my mom (00:26:07) followed to reverse cancer she did (00:26:09) basically broth (00:26:11) lots of steamed vegetables juiced (00:26:13) vegetables some berries and wild salmon (00:26:16) I mean that was her whole diet and was (00:26:18) able to reverse her uh reverse cancer (00:26:20) that way but it's uh you know (00:26:23) >> there there's this uh I the the Bible (00:26:26) and a lot of world religions talk a lot (00:26:28) about fasting obviously for spiritual (00:26:29) breakthrough but for the health (00:26:30) breakthroughs. There's so much (00:26:32) scientific literature and this (00:26:33) historical evidence on on the benefits (00:26:35) there. (00:26:36) >> That's why it's been used for centuries. (00:26:38) >> Yeah. (00:26:38) >> For uh to help stimulate healing in the (00:26:41) body and that's why it works. The body (00:26:43) doesn't have to digest now. Let's do (00:26:45) something else. Let's go to areas that (00:26:49) uh that need need help. (00:26:50) >> Yeah. It can repair. It can regenerate. (00:26:52) Now I want to mention this. You (00:26:53) mentioned statin drugs earlier. (00:26:56) We often call the gut the second brain. (00:26:59) So most people know this. Statin drugs (00:27:01) cause uh your brain is made up of about (00:27:04) 25% cholesterol. It's a lot of fat. So (00:27:07) when you're doing these statin drugs, (00:27:09) you are deminating. You are destroying (00:27:11) your entire nervous system. Well, half (00:27:12) your nerve a big part of your nervous (00:27:14) system is in your gut. So that's another (00:27:15) thing with these statin drugs are (00:27:17) destroying the body in such a massive (00:27:19) and and there's not a single drug that (00:27:22) doesn't cause a depletion in the body of (00:27:25) a vitamin or nutrient and they don't (00:27:26) even put those side effects on the (00:27:27) labels. (00:27:27) >> That's true. That's true. You see drugs (00:27:30) never cure disease. (00:27:31) >> And some might say, well Barbara, can (00:27:33) you really say never? You can say never (00:27:36) because (00:27:37) >> they only mask symptoms. It's the body (00:27:39) and the body alone is the only the only (00:27:43) thing that has the capacity to heal. Now (00:27:47) >> water treatments work with the body. (00:27:49) Herbs work with the body but it's the (00:27:51) body that does the healing but it will (00:27:53) heal when you give the right conditions. (00:27:55) And unfortunately the drugs they don't (00:27:57) work with the body. They mask the (00:27:59) symptoms. And so the people think oh (00:28:02) this is helping because I don't have a (00:28:04) headache anymore. I don't have a bad (00:28:06) rash anymore. But they don't realize (00:28:08) they've just pushed it further in the (00:28:10) body. It's going to come out again. (00:28:11) >> That's right. Yeah. I think one thing (00:28:13) people don't realize to to your point is (00:28:14) is that drugs essentially are forcing (00:28:17) your body to do actually something it (00:28:19) doesn't want to do. It's forcing it. (00:28:20) Vitamins, minerals, herbals, herbals are (00:28:23) changing your environment. Vitamins and (00:28:25) minerals are giving your body just the (00:28:27) tools it needs to heal itself. Yeah. I I (00:28:29) I uh I was really blessed to learn this (00:28:31) principle. Food doesn't actually heal (00:28:33) you. Broccoli, turmeric, none of it (00:28:35) heals you. your body heals itself. (00:28:38) >> Change the environment. And you did such (00:28:39) a great job of teaching that. I want to (00:28:41) >> right before we started, you shared (00:28:43) something with me which I just loved and (00:28:44) I want to get into this. Um, you (00:28:46) delivered (00:28:47) >> one of your own babies yourself. (00:28:50) >> Okay, that's amazing. We did with my (00:28:52) wife, my wife Chelsea, we did two at (00:28:54) home birth in the in the tub. The most (00:28:56) amazing spiritual experience of our (00:28:58) lives. (00:28:59) >> It is. Talk to me about fertility, (00:29:02) birth, home birth, and your experience (00:29:04) there and also delivering your own baby (00:29:06) at home. (00:29:07) >> Well, it it uh it is (00:29:11) it challenges me that what they've done (00:29:14) with birthing today. (00:29:16) >> So, I read a book called The Midwife of (00:29:18) Oswed. She's a Polish woman in her 50s (00:29:22) in Oswitch. She delivered 3,000 babies (00:29:25) in two years. Didn't lose a baby. (00:29:27) >> Wow. Now, let's look at that. These (00:29:30) women are the in the most terrible (00:29:32) conditions. They're malnourished, (00:29:36) spiritually, emotionally, mentally (00:29:38) traumatized. She never lost a baby. So, (00:29:40) you know what I say? What's happening in (00:29:42) our hospitals? (00:29:43) >> What's happening that we've got such a (00:29:46) high death rate in our hospitals? It's (00:29:48) intervention. (00:29:49) >> Yeah. (00:29:49) >> So, my my babies, I had several babies (00:29:52) at home and it was such an incredible (00:29:55) experience. You've experienced it (00:29:56) yourself. there there's nothing like it. (00:29:59) So with my fifth child, they they (00:30:02) checked me and they said, "You've got a (00:30:04) while to go." So I decided to start (00:30:06) marching around the room. And 7 minutes (00:30:08) later, I had another contraction and I (00:30:11) could feel pushing the back of my (00:30:14) throat, you know, that to push. And I (00:30:16) thought, "What's going on?" And I felt (00:30:18) down and I could feel the head. And so I (00:30:21) started panting. Started panting because (00:30:23) my babies just come too fast. I knew (00:30:25) that from my home births. No one was in (00:30:28) the room except my husband. And I'm (00:30:30) panting and he's tapping me saying, "You (00:30:32) shouldn't be panting yet." And I'm I (00:30:34) [laughter] couldn't tell him. And you (00:30:36) know what? I was confronted with the (00:30:38) fact I got to do this myself. (00:30:39) >> Yeah. Wow. (00:30:40) >> So what I did is as I panted, the head (00:30:42) would go back. As I didn't pant, the (00:30:44) head had pushed. So I just panted, (00:30:47) massaged like I'd seen the midwives do (00:30:50) it, and the head fell into my hand. (00:30:52) >> Oh my goodness. Wow. And I said, "The (00:30:55) head?" [laughter] (00:30:56) And he he'd jot around and oh, I'm (00:31:00) sitting there with a head. And then a (00:31:02) nurse's aid with a mop and bucket came (00:31:05) into the room, saw me sitting there with (00:31:07) the head. The mop and bucket went (00:31:09) flying. She went running. People came (00:31:11) from everywhere. It was a tiny little (00:31:14) country hospital cuz I went into labor (00:31:16) early. So I I went into there. My (00:31:18) midwife's in Sydney. [gasps] And they (00:31:21) came into the room. They looked at me, (00:31:22) looked at me with their head, and they (00:31:24) said, "Uh, can we check if the cords (00:31:27) around the neck?" And I said, "Yes." (00:31:30) And [laughter] they checked, "You're (00:31:31) fine." And then I got my next (00:31:33) contraction. And she went to take the (00:31:35) baby. And I said, (00:31:37) >> "I'll take the baby." (00:31:38) >> Yeah. (00:31:38) >> Cuz the the head's the hardest. And that (00:31:41) baby the head just goes the rest of the (00:31:43) body. (00:31:44) >> Yeah. (00:31:44) >> And I just pulled that baby up and I (00:31:47) thought, [sighs] (00:31:48) >> "Praise be to God. Why don't that women (00:31:51) do this? But I think women are fearful. (00:31:55) >> Yeah. (00:31:56) >> They're so fearful. It's time to to know (00:31:59) your body, to work with your body, to (00:32:02) know that your body can do it. (00:32:04) >> You know, I think so much of it comes (00:32:05) with this thing where we've sort of made (00:32:08) the medical system and doctors, they've (00:32:10) sort of replaced God in a way in the (00:32:13) minds of a lot of people. I think for a (00:32:14) lot of people they uh they have this, (00:32:18) you know, the Bible says in the Psalms, (00:32:21) you are fearfully and wonderfully made. (00:32:23) >> That's right. (00:32:24) >> And I think a lot of people have sort of (00:32:25) lost that that idea that science or this (00:32:28) this this idea of science is sort of (00:32:30) again replaces God and it constantly is (00:32:33) violating God's design. (00:32:35) >> It is you will love Psalm 146:3. It (00:32:39) says, "Put not your trust in princes, (00:32:41) neither in the Son of Man, in whom there (00:32:43) is no help." So, who are the princes? (00:32:45) They're the authorities in the field, (00:32:46) the authorities in government, the (00:32:48) authorities in medicine, the authorities (00:32:49) in nutrition. What has the Bible said? (00:32:52) Put not your trust in princes, neither (00:32:54) in the Son of Man in whom there's no (00:32:56) health. His breath goes forth. He (00:32:58) returns under his earth. In that very (00:32:59) day, his thoughts perish. In other (00:33:01) words, he's just a man. But verse five (00:33:03) says, "Happy is the happy is he that has (00:33:06) the God of Jacob as his help, whose hope (00:33:08) is in the Lord his God that made heaven, (00:33:10) earth, sea, and all that in them is (00:33:13) that's us and keeps truth forever." (00:33:16) >> It's amazing. (00:33:16) >> Isn't that a beautiful verse? So, it's (00:33:18) actually a challenge to us people. Stop (00:33:21) putting so much faith and trust in the (00:33:25) doctor. It doesn't mean you don't go. (00:33:27) You don't go doesn't mean you you don't (00:33:29) go anywhere near them. might go and you (00:33:30) might get their advice, but you know (00:33:32) what you say. (00:33:33) >> Thank you so much for your opinion (00:33:36) >> cuz actually that's what it is. You're (00:33:38) gracious. The Bible says in Colossians (00:33:40) 4:6, "Let your speech be always with (00:33:43) grace, seasoned with salt that you may (00:33:45) know how your order answer every man." (00:33:48) You say, "Thank you so much for your (00:33:49) advice. I'll seriously consider this." (00:33:51) And you leave. And you do consider it (00:33:54) because second Timothy 1:7 the Bible (00:33:57) says (00:33:58) >> that that God has not given us the (00:34:01) spirit of fear (00:34:03) >> but of power. That's right. (00:34:04) >> What's power? Knowledge, but of power, (00:34:07) love, and a sound mind. And a sound mind (00:34:09) weighs up the pros and cons. But if a (00:34:12) person's been told, you've got cancer, (00:34:14) you've got to do this immediately. (00:34:15) That's shocking news. (00:34:16) >> That's right. (00:34:18) >> Please have the courage to say, thank (00:34:19) you so much for your opinion. (00:34:22) I'll get back to you and you leave. (00:34:24) >> You know, we we've got into and I I've (00:34:26) I've seen this so often it sort of (00:34:28) shocks me. Uh you know, there are (00:34:30) statistics around once 5:00 rolls (00:34:33) around, the amount of C-sections that (00:34:35) happen go up dramatically. The amount of (00:34:37) C-sections now that are being scheduled (00:34:38) months out is crazy. I've had doctors, (00:34:42) not have it once, I've heard this 10 (00:34:43) times where women have told me, "Well, (00:34:46) the doctor told me that I have a small (00:34:47) body and that my hips are too small, so (00:34:50) I have to have a C-section before they (00:34:52) even try." I mean, that's (00:34:54) >> Look how tiny I am. I gave birth to a 10 (00:34:56) pound baby. (00:34:57) >> Yeah. Wow. Yeah. (00:34:58) >> You see, see, and that's where squatting (00:35:00) is great for women. It just it (00:35:02) >> Let's use Exactly. Let's use gravity (00:35:05) now. Fight against gravity. And I tell (00:35:07) you something, I've been told far too (00:35:09) many times. And this was told me just a (00:35:11) few days ago. Had a scan, the doctor (00:35:14) said there's water around half the (00:35:16) baby's heart. Had another scan a month (00:35:17) later, now there's water around both the (00:35:19) hearts. Have to go in immediately and (00:35:21) have a a and and give birth to the baby. (00:35:24) And the woman's um 35 weeks. Oh. Have to (00:35:29) do a C-section. (00:35:31) Then they scan the heart after the (00:35:33) birth. They don't see very much at all. (00:35:36) Yeah. (00:35:37) >> That So, a lady emailed me. She said, (00:35:40) "Barbara, I've just had a scan. I'm 35 (00:35:42) weeks. They say that my baby's too (00:35:44) small. The placenta's breaking down." (00:35:46) [gasps] I said, "I believe it." (00:35:50) Now, when I say that, that challenges (00:35:52) many people. I said, "You know what a (00:35:53) scan is? It's just sound waves coming (00:35:55) back." I said, "It could be wrong. If I (00:35:59) were you, I would not go back. I would (00:36:01) enjoy your last few weeks of of labor. (00:36:05) You feel good? Yeah. Baby's moving. (00:36:07) Yeah. (00:36:08) >> She went into labor at about 39 weeks, (00:36:12) gave birth naturally. Baby was perfect. (00:36:15) Placenta was perfect. (00:36:17) >> Yeah. So, I'm almost at the stage where (00:36:20) I say to women, I can't tell you what to (00:36:22) do, but if I was you, I would not have (00:36:24) scans. (00:36:25) >> Yeah. (00:36:26) >> Cuz what it does, it puts fear into the (00:36:28) woman. (00:36:28) >> That's right. And then a scan later. Oh, (00:36:30) actually we can't see it this time. (00:36:35) That mother needs peace, calm, and (00:36:38) happiness through her pregnancy. (00:36:40) >> Yeah. It's so important. Well, one of (00:36:41) the things that I I I tell the patients (00:36:44) I work with that are dealing with (00:36:45) infertility. I I I tell the women, I (00:36:47) said, "Here is the state we need to get (00:36:49) you into because I think a lot of (00:36:50) infertility is can be driven through (00:36:53) unhealthy emotions, not feeling safe and (00:36:55) secure." And I tell them, I said, "This (00:36:56) is how I want you to feel. I want you to (00:36:58) think about your favorite couch. You're (00:37:00) bundled up with a blanket. You've got (00:37:02) your favorite, you know, uh, beverage. (00:37:04) Maybe it's a hot cup of hot cocoa or a (00:37:07) coffee. You got your family there, (00:37:08) Christmas tree, fire, and you feel safe, (00:37:10) secure, warm. I'm like, that's the (00:37:12) emotional state we need to get you into. (00:37:14) But but but you're what you're saying is (00:37:15) like the medical system today rather (00:37:17) than doing that, it's stripping away (00:37:20) hope. It's putting in fear. We know that (00:37:22) that causes the body to sort of lock and (00:37:24) tighten up. And I see that I think a lot (00:37:26) of times sort of interfering with that (00:37:27) whole birth. (00:37:28) >> And a woman goes home, she's just been (00:37:30) told they think they see something in (00:37:32) the baby's kidney. She goes home, she's (00:37:34) crying all the way home. They say, (00:37:36) "We'll scan again in a month." What's (00:37:38) that next month like for her? (00:37:40) >> So if they contact me, you know what I (00:37:42) say? I don't believe them. (00:37:44) >> That's right. (00:37:44) >> And I said, "And even if there's (00:37:45) something there, what are they going to (00:37:47) do?" (00:37:48) >> Yeah. There's there's no interventions (00:37:50) that they have that that work. No. and (00:37:53) sometimes they get it wrong. (00:37:57) >> Do you have unexplainable illness, (00:37:59) hormone dysfunction, weight loss (00:38:01) resistance, brain fog, and you're tired (00:38:03) of being dismissed when you know (00:38:06) something isn't right? 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(00:38:52) We've talked about and and and I I do I (00:38:54) do want to say just for everybody, um if (00:38:56) you have not done a home birth, if you (00:38:59) are at the age where you could do it in (00:39:00) the future, it is the most incredible (00:39:03) experience, supernatural, amazing, um (00:39:06) thing. So, definitely definitely (00:39:08) consider that. You don't have to deliver (00:39:09) your own baby. We'll leave that up to (00:39:11) Barbara. But, but uh getting a good (00:39:13) midwife is amazing. Like we had a we had (00:39:15) a midwife we worked with. She's done (00:39:17) well over a thousand bursts and woman in (00:39:20) her 60s now. Um and she's just (00:39:22) absolutely amazing. Had the best (00:39:23) experience. And um and and my so my wife (00:39:26) doesn't she never wants to bother (00:39:28) anybody. So like we almost had to (00:39:30) deliver the baby because I'm looking at (00:39:32) her contraction. I'm like, "Are you (00:39:33) keeping track of time anymore?" She's (00:39:35) like, "Well, no, I lost track." And then (00:39:37) 30 minutes later, the baby was here. So (00:39:39) anyways, but having a great midwife's (00:39:40) amazing. Um we talked about women's (00:39:42) hormones. I want to talk about men's (00:39:44) hormones as well. We are seeing now more (00:39:46) than ever before male testosterone just (00:39:49) plummeting. I want to say over the last (00:39:50) 50 years, male testosterone has dropped (00:39:53) by 33%. In some areas of the country, if (00:39:56) you're comparing, it's over 50%. And so (00:40:00) we're seeing men now contributing to a (00:40:03) lot of the infertility issues. That's (00:40:05) true. What do you think the root cause (00:40:07) of that is? And what are some things men (00:40:08) can start to do? (00:40:09) >> I think it's the same root cause as with (00:40:11) women. (00:40:13) mother hormones been displaced. And I (00:40:15) think it's really nice to picture it (00:40:17) like this. Mother hormone progesterone, (00:40:20) she's very protective of her son (00:40:22) testosterone. (00:40:24) >> So when mother hormone is where she (00:40:26) should be, she plays a protective role (00:40:28) on testosterone, keeping it in the (00:40:31) balance that it should be. And so all (00:40:33) those environmental poisons we talked (00:40:35) about, if a if a man if his mother was (00:40:38) on the pill before she gave birth to (00:40:40) him, there's a factor coming through (00:40:42) there. Um, another factor too, not often (00:40:46) talked about is laptops on the lap. (00:40:49) >> So I say protect the family jewels. Men (00:40:52) and women, don't put your laptop on your (00:40:55) lap. (00:40:55) >> The phones in your pocket. (00:40:58) Yeah. So there and it's not the odd day (00:41:00) it happens. is it's it's day after day (00:41:02) after day after day. So these are all (00:41:05) contributing factors, but it's actually (00:41:07) the same as with women. We got to (00:41:10) reinstate mother hormone and that's (00:41:13) where the wild yam cream, it does that. (00:41:16) So whether man or woman, they can apply (00:41:19) that yam cream. But we had a man come (00:41:21) with um prostate cancer. (00:41:24) >> Yeah. (00:41:25) >> He was having a threemonly injection to (00:41:27) try and get his testosterone levels (00:41:29) right. He developed breasts. He was (00:41:32) getting hot flushes. (00:41:34) >> Wow. (00:41:35) >> So, at the at our retreat, he learned (00:41:37) about the yam cream (00:41:39) >> and he made the decision not to go and (00:41:41) have that three monthly injection (00:41:42) anymore. He made the decision to start (00:41:44) applying that yam cream twice a day. Men (00:41:48) don't have a break like women cuz (00:41:49) they're not cyclic. Women apply it twice (00:41:52) a day, three weeks a month. Men apply it (00:41:54) every day. Twice a day. He stopped his (00:41:57) nightly red wine, stopped his coffee, (00:41:59) started to go more plant-based, (00:42:01) exercise, so all of the basic laws of (00:42:04) health. (00:42:05) We got an email 10 months later, breasts (00:42:09) have gone down, hot flashes have (00:42:11) stopped, testosterone levels are the (00:42:13) best they've been for years. (00:42:14) >> That's so great. [laughter] I love (00:42:15) hearing that. You know, I actually had (00:42:17) not heard that before. I I what my uh in (00:42:20) my training um and looking at Chinese (00:42:22) medicine and some other things uh what (00:42:24) we would tend to do is go more directly (00:42:25) at testosterone and so I would do panics (00:42:28) jens singh fenugreek (00:42:30) um more weightlifting I mean some of (00:42:32) those things but but I like your point (00:42:34) and this is something I I really (00:42:36) appreciate about you is we want to (00:42:37) always go to the root of all roots you (00:42:40) know I see cortisol being another (00:42:41) hormone that's the root of all roots (00:42:43) it's like to your point cortisol goes up (00:42:45) >> insulin goes up now estrogen can't be (00:42:48) detoxified by the liver when that (00:42:50) happens. So then T4 can't be converted (00:42:52) to T3. So this whole hormonal pathway, (00:42:55) but I that's a that that's that's great (00:42:57) wisdom and that's something I'm going to (00:42:58) start using more frequently and testing (00:43:00) with patients is doing more of the (00:43:01) progesterone increasing in men because (00:43:04) I've done it in women a lot but but not (00:43:06) as frequently with men. (00:43:07) >> Yeah. In in fact great for prostate um (00:43:10) great for low sperm count but also (00:43:12) penile dysfunction. And I don't know how (00:43:15) else to say this, but one man said to (00:43:17) me, "This cream just puts lead in my (00:43:19) pencil." [laughter] He said, "I'm not (00:43:22) performing like I was when I was 20, but (00:43:24) I'm better than I was." So, in all of (00:43:27) those areas, the the yam cream can yes, (00:43:30) definitely help help men. And Cheryl (00:43:33) Selman in her book, Hormone Heresy, she (00:43:36) explains it like this. She said, "Men (00:43:37) are like the sun. They rise every (00:43:39) morning, conquer the day, go down every (00:43:41) night, but women are like the moon. (00:43:43) Sometimes they're full, sometimes (00:43:45) they're half, sometimes they're a (00:43:46) slither. So women are more cyclic, so (00:43:49) they have one week a month off. (00:43:52) >> Isn't it amazing how I I mean what you (00:43:54) just said there, I think I think God (00:43:57) teaches us with nature, you know, like I (00:44:00) mean literally the sun is like a male (00:44:02) cycle. The moon is a woman's cycle every (00:44:05) 28, 30 day. I mean that same exact same (00:44:08) cycle. (00:44:09) >> It's amazing. You know, I've always (00:44:10) appreciated one of the things that uh uh (00:44:13) I've taught and I think I've heard you (00:44:14) talk about this as well is this. You (00:44:16) know, you you can often know how to heal (00:44:18) an organ by by or what foods to eat for (00:44:21) the organ based on the appearance of the (00:44:22) organ, right? Like a walnut looks like a (00:44:23) hemisphere, the brain. Tomatoes have (00:44:25) four chambers and they're red. So does (00:44:27) your heart. You know, beets look like (00:44:28) blood. And so I think (00:44:30) >> so like the fea (00:44:32) >> your bones, right? Exactly. It's amazing (00:44:33) for, you know, keeping you from losing (00:44:35) minerals. So I I I if there's one thing (00:44:39) that I really would love people to walk (00:44:41) away with is that I want them to (00:44:43) understand that God is for you, not (00:44:46) against you. You're fearfully and (00:44:47) wonderfully made and that there are all (00:44:49) of these things in nature that are so (00:44:51) powerful. I did want to ask you about (00:44:52) hormone replacement therapy and your (00:44:55) views on that. (00:44:57) >> My views on that are I'm not in (00:44:59) agreeance with it because I'm not in (00:45:01) agreeance with using synthetic hormones. (00:45:04) So if a woman is on hormone replacement (00:45:06) therapy, and I have to tell you, I have (00:45:08) had several women testify that six years (00:45:11) after being on hormone replacement (00:45:13) therapy, they developed breast cancer. (00:45:16) >> I've seen it. (00:45:16) >> So yes, you've seen it yourself. So I'm (00:45:19) not in agreeance with it because it (00:45:20) further disrupts the hormones. So if a (00:45:23) woman's on hormone replacement therapy, (00:45:25) my suggestion is well what what I would (00:45:28) do, I would stop, but the day I stop, I (00:45:31) would start applying the yam cream. So (00:45:35) we have a yam cream that we sell here in (00:45:37) the UK. My daughters make it in (00:45:38) Tasmania. It's called treoon. (00:45:41) >> So it's about three t meaning three lun (00:45:44) the lunar cycle. And I remember when my (00:45:47) husband saw that he said, "Oh, this is a (00:45:49) terrible name. It needs to be Ruth's (00:45:52) that yam cream or Mary's yam cream that (00:45:55) my daughter's (00:45:56) >> yam cream of course (00:45:57) >> my my daughters say no treoon [laughter] (00:46:00) and referring to the to the lunar cycle. (00:46:04) So men or women do very well with it. (00:46:07) One lady said I it didn't work. I said (00:46:10) how long do you try it for? She said two (00:46:12) months. I said well this is what's (00:46:14) happening after two months. Here's this (00:46:17) is estrogen which should be down there. (00:46:19) Here's progesterone. That should be up (00:46:21) there. And after 2 months, we're about (00:46:23) here. (00:46:24) >> What we want, we want the mother hormone (00:46:27) back. How long will it take? Well, we've (00:46:29) got a saying in Australian, how long's a (00:46:31) piece of string? It could be an inch (00:46:34) longer. It could be (00:46:35) >> mile long. (00:46:36) >> Mile long. (00:46:37) >> So, it depends on We've I've seen three (00:46:40) generations of women with it out. Now, (00:46:42) it's not going to take three generations (00:46:44) to get back. In fact, it's not going to (00:46:46) take 20 years to get back, but it might (00:46:48) take a year. (00:46:49) >> Yeah. (00:46:50) >> And and this is where time and the Bible (00:46:53) has a beautiful section in Hebrews on (00:46:55) time. He It's Hebrews 10:35. It says, (00:46:59) "Cast not away, therefore, thy (00:47:01) confidence in the which is great (00:47:02) recompense of reward, for ye have need (00:47:05) of patience." Yeah. (00:47:07) >> In that after you have done the will of (00:47:09) God, you might receive the promise. for (00:47:11) yet a little while, and he that shall (00:47:13) come or will come, he shall come. But (00:47:16) the just shall live by faith. But if any (00:47:19) man draw back, my soul shall have no (00:47:21) pleasure in him. But we are not of them (00:47:23) that draw back under pition, but of them (00:47:25) that believing in the saving of the (00:47:27) soul. Now I add something to that, but (00:47:29) to them that believing in the saving or (00:47:31) the healing of the body. So don't cast (00:47:34) your confidence away. Have confidence in (00:47:37) God. confidence in this body that he (00:47:40) gave us, but ye have need of patience. (00:47:43) >> You know, a lot of these uh sort of (00:47:45) ancient uh sages would always say that (00:47:48) the partner of wisdom, the greatest (00:47:50) partner is patience. I mean, it's so (00:47:51) it's it's (00:47:52) >> it's it's part of being wise. It's part (00:47:54) of doing the right thing. (00:47:55) >> That's right. Yeah. We don't get sick (00:47:57) overnight. We don't heal overnight. And (00:47:59) that's another problem with medicine (00:48:01) today. Quick fixes. (00:48:02) >> That's right. And and that's that's (00:48:04) that's what we're trained to be. And (00:48:05) social media's made it worse. everything (00:48:07) else we want every we order food I mean (00:48:09) everything we want to see instantly but (00:48:12) it's typically not the best way you know (00:48:13) I was reading proverbs here uh this last (00:48:16) week and the one really struck to me it (00:48:18) basically said this wealth that comes (00:48:20) quickly (00:48:21) >> will not last wealth that comes built (00:48:23) over time will last (00:48:25) >> and and I think that's so true you know (00:48:28) um one of the things I have studied and (00:48:31) understood in what you're sharing with (00:48:33) hormone replacement therapy and this is (00:48:35) the ancient Asian view but is that when (00:48:38) you start taking synthetic hormones from (00:48:40) the outside in, (00:48:41) >> your body starts turning off its own (00:48:43) tap. (00:48:44) >> Yes. (00:48:44) >> So it stops producing progesterone, (00:48:46) stops producing estrogen itself. And (00:48:48) then in Chinese medicine, they would (00:48:49) call that a chi deficiency in a certain (00:48:51) organ. So now you have lack of blood (00:48:53) flow, lack of movement in that area (00:48:55) because now your body, think about your (00:48:56) body is like it's got a spring inside of (00:48:58) it. you're turning the your own natural (00:49:01) spring off versus what you teach is no, (00:49:04) listen, we're going to we're going to (00:49:06) open that spring up so water is just (00:49:08) flooding out. And your points with doing (00:49:10) the, you know, the yam cream and some of (00:49:12) these other other therapies, I think, is (00:49:15) is we want to work with the body, not (00:49:18) against the body. I see men now getting (00:49:20) on testosterone therapy in their 20s and (00:49:23) 30s, and then, you know, some of them (00:49:24) saying, "Well, I want to have a family (00:49:26) one day." And I'm I'm sitting there (00:49:27) thinking, you're increasing your rate of (00:49:29) infertility dramatically. (00:49:31) >> Dramatically. (00:49:32) >> Yeah. And so I I I love what you're (00:49:34) teaching. I think so often people um are (00:49:38) running to hormone replacement therapy (00:49:39) rather than doing all the right things. (00:49:40) It's like if you follow the right diet (00:49:42) and do these ancient remedies you've (00:49:44) talked about, I found that 99% of the (00:49:46) time people heal, people get well. (00:49:48) >> They do. And and there's always a (00:49:50) consequence. That's right. (00:49:51) >> You know, that's Newton's third law of (00:49:52) motion. To every action there's an equal (00:49:54) and an opposite reaction. And Proverbs (00:49:57) 26:2, it says, "The curse causeless (00:49:59) shall not come." (00:50:01) >> So there's always a cause. And the (00:50:03) cause, see, I've got a I think there a (00:50:06) dent in my cheek. You know what that (00:50:08) dent's from? I crashed on my bicycle on (00:50:12) the bridge. Real easy. Cause of dent (00:50:15) crash. (00:50:16) >> Yeah. (00:50:16) >> But it's not usually that easy. (00:50:18) >> Yeah. It can be a little bit of this and (00:50:20) a little bit of that and that happened (00:50:21) and this happened and this happened and (00:50:23) this has been happening for a while and (00:50:25) it's like the straw that breaks the (00:50:26) camel's back. A piece of straw cannot (00:50:28) break a camel's back but on top of (00:50:30) everything else it can tip the scales. (00:50:32) That's right. (00:50:33) >> And that's what often you see. (00:50:35) >> And because the person's suddenly gone (00:50:38) down, they want to suddenly get better, (00:50:40) but they don't realize that it's (00:50:43) actually all of those things that have (00:50:44) been happening for many years that have (00:50:46) contributed to this. Yeah. Yeah. That (00:50:48) there are a lot of these mistakes we can (00:50:51) make. I mean, you've talked about (00:50:53) plastic bottles, bisphenol, a (00:50:55) glyphosate, a lot of these things that (00:50:56) add up. What What do you think are maybe (00:50:59) three or so of the biggest mistakes (00:51:01) people are making that they're just (00:51:02) totally unaware of that's really harming (00:51:04) their health? (00:51:06) >> I think a really big mistake is thinking (00:51:08) that coffee and tea are hydrating them. (00:51:11) >> So, every morning when we go to the (00:51:12) hotel to have breakfast, they say, "Will (00:51:14) you have tea or coffee?" No. They look (00:51:17) at you as if you're strange and they put (00:51:21) our cup upside down because I would say (00:51:24) we are probably the only ones there not (00:51:27) having tea or coffee. Well, what will (00:51:29) you have to drink? Well, we've we've (00:51:30) already drank a lot of water. So, that (00:51:32) misconception that tea and coffee are (00:51:34) hydrating. They're actually dehydrating (00:51:36) you. If you are dehydrated and you drink (00:51:39) a cup of coffee, you'll be more (00:51:41) dehydrated after that because ca coffee (00:51:45) has caffeine which is a dehydrator. You (00:51:48) put sugar in that, another dehydrator. (00:51:50) You drink tea, not as much caffeine but (00:51:52) it's got tannin, another dehydrator. (00:51:55) >> Wow. (00:51:56) >> So that's that's a real misconception. (00:51:58) Another misconception is uh exercise is (00:52:01) for children. (00:52:04) >> Yeah. [laughter] Yeah. (00:52:04) >> We should never stop. Never stop. (00:52:07) Stagnant pools breed disease and (00:52:10) stagnant bodies. That's a big disease. (00:52:13) Producer is the body's just not moving. (00:52:17) We need to move every day. Muscle knows (00:52:19) no age. Whether you're nine or 90, you (00:52:22) can have strong muscles. So, that's (00:52:24) another misconception. (00:52:28) >> And the other misconception is it (00:52:30) doesn't matter if you don't go to bed (00:52:31) till midnight. (00:52:33) >> This [laughter] is a good one. I like (00:52:35) this one. (00:52:37) And when you understand what happens in (00:52:39) your brain at night, you're as a British (00:52:41) neurologist named Dr. Matthew Walker. He (00:52:44) wrote a book, Why We Sleep. And at the (00:52:46) end of it, he said, "I did not like what (00:52:48) I found." Because I was hoping the (00:52:52) research would show 6 hours is all (00:52:54) right. No, no, eight. Must be eight. (00:52:57) That's right. (00:52:57) >> And also catching at least two hours (00:53:00) before midnight. (00:53:01) >> Yeah. Yeah. It's so powerful. And I I (00:53:03) remember hearing a uh at a lecture when (00:53:06) I was younger, somebody say it was a it (00:53:08) was a a practitioner um every hour (00:53:11) before midnight is worth almost double. (00:53:13) And I thought and at first I thought is (00:53:15) that right? And then you know through (00:53:18) trial and error and realizing I'm like (00:53:19) absolut that's absolutely true. I'm (00:53:21) really blessed right now. I have a I (00:53:22) have a one and a halfyear-old and a (00:53:24) 5-year-old and my 5-year-old my my wife (00:53:27) puts the one and a half-year-old to bed. (00:53:28) that I put the 5-year-old to bed. But, (00:53:30) uh, I'm going to bed at like 8:30 now, (00:53:33) which, you know, I feel so refreshed (00:53:34) every single morning going to bed just (00:53:36) after 8. But, uh, but, yeah, it's, uh, (00:53:38) you know, I I I absolutely agree. I (00:53:40) mean, I I think that's a there there was (00:53:42) a study that came out recently that said (00:53:44) on average, women are getting a little (00:53:48) less, like 40 minutes less of sleep a (00:53:51) night compared to 50, 60 years ago. And (00:53:54) men, it's like 30 30 minutes less. But (00:53:57) what people don't realize is I mean (00:53:58) think 40 minutes of less less sleep (00:54:01) >> and when when you realize the difference (00:54:04) between before midnight and after (00:54:05) midnight if if that's if they're losing (00:54:09) before mid midnight that you double it. (00:54:12) >> Yeah, that's exactly right. It's exactly (00:54:14) right. So it's um yeah, it's such an (00:54:17) important part of us regenerating when (00:54:19) we sleep. And so (00:54:20) >> it is. And if we don't get regenerated (00:54:22) every night, we're going to age very (00:54:24) quickly. (00:54:24) >> That's right. That's it's so right. Um, (00:54:27) as I mentioned earlier, um, you talk a (00:54:30) lot about food as medicine. You talk a (00:54:32) lot about herbs as medicine. Let's start (00:54:34) with food here. What are some of your (00:54:36) favorite foods that people can start (00:54:38) eating that act as a form of medicine (00:54:40) for the body? (00:54:42) >> Well, I know people often say to me, (00:54:44) "What are we going to feed you?" I said, (00:54:45) "Just feed me greens and beans. I love (00:54:48) greens and beans." And a lot of people (00:54:50) get put off the the beans because they (00:54:53) say they give the wind. Well, are they (00:54:56) soaked? Are they very well rinsed? Are (00:54:59) they prepared properly? And if they (00:55:01) still give wind, we got to start real (00:55:04) slow and slowly build the microorganisms (00:55:07) up in our gut for that particular (00:55:10) legume. Can I tell you there there is a (00:55:12) video online recently of I want to say (00:55:14) it was an Italian family and they and (00:55:16) they said for every meal this is a (00:55:18) little I thought a little it it was very (00:55:20) extreme but I want to say all three of (00:55:23) them were over 100 years old and they (00:55:25) all ate three bean soup for every meal. (00:55:30) >> So it was so so you can't live to be (00:55:32) over you know that was like their their (00:55:34) main staple. And you see the beans are (00:55:37) actually quite low in carbohydrates (00:55:40) compared to grain. (00:55:41) >> Very high fiber. (00:55:42) >> They're high fiber. They're great (00:55:43) proteins. (00:55:45) >> And the greens. The greens. The greens. (00:55:47) The greens are incredibly high in (00:55:49) minerals. And our bones are made of (00:55:50) minerals. (00:55:51) >> We need minerals. (00:55:53) >> Now, when you cook them, you don't lose (00:55:55) the minerals (00:55:57) >> because the minerals (00:55:59) are, (00:56:00) you know, heat doesn't destroy them. (00:56:02) >> It doesn't affect metal like that, (00:56:03) right? (00:56:04) >> No. That's right. You know, I um you (00:56:07) there there are now there's just kind of (00:56:08) this movement that's happened. I (00:56:10) literally just had this question. So, I (00:56:11) just, you know, got done speaking here (00:56:13) and right afterwards somebody came up to (00:56:14) me and they said, "Hey, what do you (00:56:16) think about lectins? What do you think (00:56:18) about, you know, eating vegetables?" (00:56:21) Because I've heard now, it's so crazy. (00:56:23) Can I just say like somebody was like, (00:56:24) "I heard that you shouldn't eat (00:56:26) vegetables because they're not healthy." (00:56:28) And I'm like there's there's like (00:56:30) thousands of years of like Chinese (00:56:32) medicine and the Bible say that's not (00:56:34) true. (00:56:35) >> It it's the test of time. I've got a (00:56:37) funny story about this. It was probably (00:56:39) about 2 years ago. Oh no, it was 2022 (00:56:42) when I came back into Australia. I was (00:56:44) put into quarantine for two weeks and (00:56:47) someone gave me a book just before I got (00:56:50) on the plane. The plant paradox by Dr. (00:56:52) Steven (00:56:53) >> Gundry. And I do want to say I know (00:56:55) Stephen, he's a really nice guy. I (00:56:56) disagree with him on quite a bit. (00:56:58) >> And you know what was interesting? I (00:57:00) started to read it and he's saying the (00:57:01) tongue took 10 million years to develop (00:57:03) and the and and I just kept closing the (00:57:06) book thinking, "Ah, I don't want to be (00:57:08) bothered with this." But you know what? (00:57:09) I'm in a room for two weeks. (00:57:11) >> Yeah. (00:57:12) >> Can't get out. So, I kept going back to (00:57:14) the book. I'm so glad I read it because (00:57:17) I wanted to know, well, what are lectins (00:57:19) and why did God put them in food? (00:57:22) >> Protection for the (00:57:23) >> Now, the you you'll find lectins high in (00:57:27) unripe fruit. (00:57:29) >> And of course, the birds don't eat the (00:57:31) unripe fruit. (00:57:32) >> The prebiotics though, (00:57:33) >> they only eat the ripe fruit. So, when (00:57:36) you get the ripe pear or the ripe uh (00:57:40) fig, (00:57:41) >> yeah, (00:57:42) >> there's no lectins. (00:57:43) >> So, I thought, well, that makes sense. (00:57:45) It's there's a bitterness before they (00:57:47) ripen and that stops the birds. That (00:57:50) makes sense. And then well, it's in (00:57:53) legumes. But if you soak them and you (00:57:57) rinse them several times and cook them (00:58:00) well, especially in a pressure cooker, (00:58:02) disarms the lectins. What about grain? (00:58:04) Yes, there's lectins in grains, but if (00:58:07) they're made into the sourdough method, (00:58:10) the sourdough or the culturing process (00:58:12) disarms the lectins. So I thought, well, (00:58:15) all we have to do is cook them properly (00:58:17) and prepare them properly. I mean, this (00:58:20) is such a problem today because I've (00:58:22) I've seen so many people run with these (00:58:25) ideas of yeah, (00:58:27) >> you know, grains are bad. You know, (00:58:30) grains are it's interesting like in in (00:58:32) writing this this the biblio diet on the (00:58:34) biblical diet, the most referenced foods (00:58:37) in the Bible are I mean sourdough bread (00:58:40) is very very high up there. (00:58:42) >> Oh yes, (00:58:42) >> red meat is actually very high as part (00:58:44) of Solomon's provisions. vegetables. (00:58:46) Pomegranates are the most referenced (00:58:48) fruit along with figs and grapes. And so (00:58:50) I mean these these are all things that (00:58:51) are salt, honey is, you know, are (00:58:53) referenced. Olive oil, (00:58:55) >> you know, referenced so many times. But (00:58:59) >> olive oil huge. You (00:59:01) >> a man a he was a Christian and was at (00:59:03) church one day and he said, "You're (00:59:05) wrong on the oils. We shouldn't be (00:59:07) eating it." I said, "You need to do a (00:59:08) Bible study on olive oil." (00:59:10) >> That's right. It's in fact I mean I I I (00:59:13) would almost say one thing on every (00:59:15) almost everybody can agree on both vegan (00:59:17) and carn whatever almost everybody (00:59:19) agrees that olive oil is the best oil. (00:59:21) >> Oh yeah. Yeah. There's uh there's no (00:59:24) doubt about that. It's very important. (00:59:26) Something else very interesting about (00:59:27) lectins. If you've got good gut flora (00:59:30) disarms the lectins. (00:59:31) >> Yeah. (00:59:32) >> So I thought well we don't need to throw (00:59:34) vegetables out. We just need to ensure (00:59:36) good gut flora and to prepare our food (00:59:39) properly. like Sally Fallon in her book (00:59:42) Nourishing Traditions, she explores all (00:59:45) the traditional ways, the long slow (00:59:47) cooking on the wood stove, the rinsing (00:59:50) well, the sourdough culturing of the (00:59:52) grains. (00:59:53) >> If you prepare your food properly, no (00:59:56) problem with lectins. Yeah, I would say (00:59:58) I mean the foods that are the most (01:00:00) different today compared to if we're (01:00:02) talking about just just historically (01:00:04) generally the time of Jesus or even 200 (01:00:07) years ago. (01:00:08) >> Bread and dairy are the most radically (01:00:10) different today. I mean bread today is (01:00:12) like white goop that turns into sugar (01:00:16) versus then even the way they they would (01:00:18) harvest it when it ripe. They would soak (01:00:19) it and let it sit in the sun. They would (01:00:21) then mill it themselves. They would and (01:00:23) it was an ancient grain like an iron (01:00:24) corn and then they would ferment it. (01:00:26) Like there was this great study on (01:00:27) ciliacs disease. So these are people (01:00:29) that are severely intolerant to gluten, (01:00:33) but if they did a fermentation sourdough (01:00:35) process in the study of the 17 people, (01:00:37) they did another one with about the same (01:00:38) amount of people. 0% of them had any (01:00:41) reaction whatever to gluten because your (01:00:44) point it it breaks down the lexin the (01:00:46) phytic acid. (01:00:47) >> That's what it does. It actually totally (01:00:49) breaks it down. (01:00:50) >> Yeah. So you talked about beans and (01:00:51) greens. That's another one. Again, it's (01:00:53) got a bad rep. I mean, steamed spinach (01:00:55) and kale, uh, bok choy, broccoli, right? (01:00:58) I mean, these are amazing, amazing (01:00:59) healing foods. I have, uh, someone I (01:01:01) know who had MS and she completely (01:01:04) reversed MS by eating only meat, (01:01:08) highfat, and then greens. I mean, her (01:01:10) biggest thing was just steamed green (01:01:12) vegetables. I'm curious, what are some (01:01:15) of the most miraculous healings you've (01:01:17) seen? And what were some of the foods or (01:01:19) things people did in order to see these (01:01:21) miraculous healings in their body? Where (01:01:23) do I start? [laughter] (01:01:25) >> Wherever you'd like. Wherever you'd (01:01:27) like. (01:01:27) >> Well, I think one of the most remarkable (01:01:30) stories because people come to our (01:01:32) retreat, then they go home and we don't (01:01:34) often hear back. (01:01:36) >> But this lady, Elizabeth Cotch, she had (01:01:38) three tumors in her abdominal area. They (01:01:41) wanted to start chem straight away. She (01:01:44) didn't like the look of the side (01:01:45) effects. She came to our retreat and as (01:01:48) I'm consulting with her, I discovered (01:01:51) she's a high sugar eater. You see, (01:01:53) cancer cells consume 15 times the (01:01:55) glucose of any other cell. She never (01:01:57) drank. She never smoked. She she was a (01:02:00) Christian. So people would say, "Well, (01:02:02) how come she got cancer?" But she ate a (01:02:05) lot of sugar. (01:02:06) >> She said, "We're Polish. We love our (01:02:08) desserts." In fact, in one cake about (01:02:10) this big, she put 16 cups of white (01:02:12) sugar. (01:02:13) >> Oh my goodness. (01:02:14) >> And her house was spotless, but she used (01:02:18) chemical cleaners. Chemical chemical (01:02:20) cleaners on everything. So she was also (01:02:22) being poisoned by the chemicals. So (01:02:25) anyway, we implemented the program. She (01:02:28) went on no fruit at all for 6 weeks. And (01:02:32) what that does is that designed to give (01:02:35) a sledgehammer effect to cancer cells (01:02:37) because they consume so much glucose. (01:02:39) Yeah. (01:02:40) >> We also hyperbaric chamber. Um she also (01:02:44) uh was taking herbs to to uh help knock (01:02:48) off the cancer. Went back to the doctor. (01:02:51) I think it was 6 months since she first (01:02:53) been been. And he said, "Oh, just keep (01:02:54) doing what you're doing." (01:02:56) >> Cuz all her cancer levels had come down. (01:02:58) All the inflammatory markers had come (01:03:00) down. Went back. So it was a year later, (01:03:03) the next visit. First tumor's gone. (01:03:07) >> Another year later, another tumor gone. (01:03:09) She said to me, "I'm I'm in my 70s now. (01:03:12) I feel better now than when I felt in my (01:03:13) 40s." (01:03:14) >> Yeah. (01:03:14) >> Just an incredible story. And also (01:03:17) another story of a guy who was um type 1 (01:03:20) diabetic 62. He was on medication for (01:03:23) all heart sugars, 90 units of insulin a (01:03:26) day. The doctors had basically said we (01:03:29) can no more for you. He came to our (01:03:32) retreat. He said, "I spent a million (01:03:34) dollars on my health in the last 10 (01:03:36) years. Best specialists in the land and (01:03:38) they've just sent him home to say we can (01:03:40) do no more for you." Came to our (01:03:42) retreat. He said, "Anything you say, I (01:03:45) will do." And he did. [laughter] (01:03:47) >> Wow. (01:03:48) >> So implemented exercise, you know, got (01:03:51) the the uh high glycemic foods right (01:03:54) down, you know, low carbohydrate, high (01:03:57) fiber, great proteins, good fats. 2 (01:04:01) weeks and he was from 90 units of (01:04:05) insulin a day down to 10 units of (01:04:07) insulin. (01:04:07) >> Wow, that's amazing. (01:04:08) >> He emailed me 3 months later. He said, (01:04:10) "I'm off all my medication." (01:04:12) >> Wow. He said, "Now, type 1 diabetic." (01:04:15) And we're told that can never be. (01:04:17) >> Yeah. (01:04:18) >> So, he he was incredible because he did (01:04:21) it. (01:04:21) >> Yeah. (01:04:21) >> And of course, that's the key. He did (01:04:24) it. (01:04:24) >> Yeah. (01:04:24) >> You know, the Bible says, "Be ye doers (01:04:27) of the word, not hearers only." (01:04:30) >> That's so good. That's so good. I love (01:04:32) that so much. U We've talked about food (01:04:34) is medicine. Again, greens, beans, those (01:04:37) are some things you've talked about that (01:04:38) people are can really thrive on. It (01:04:41) sounded like you talked about broth and (01:04:42) some other things in your retreat. I uh (01:04:44) I want to ask you about plant-based (01:04:46) medicine and herbals. Um this is (01:04:48) something that I uh didn't learn about (01:04:50) at all in school, but through self-study (01:04:52) of years and years and years, I have (01:04:54) become a just a such a big fan of of of (01:04:56) herbal medicine. (01:04:57) >> Yeah. (01:04:57) >> What are some of your favorite herbs (01:05:00) that you recommend pro most commonly for (01:05:02) for various imbalances and conditions? (01:05:04) >> Well, you mentioned the gut. (01:05:06) >> Yeah. (01:05:06) >> And certainly the slippery elm. We (01:05:09) advocate that for any diarrhea. (01:05:12) >> So, irritable bowel, Crohn's disease, (01:05:14) colitis, ulcerative colitis, all of (01:05:16) that. That helps an enormous amount. (01:05:19) >> But I also look at boosting hydrochloric (01:05:22) acid. (01:05:23) >> In fact, in my book, Self-Heal by (01:05:25) Design, I've got a chapter. It's called (01:05:26) hydrochloric acid, the stomach's (01:05:29) secret. (01:05:30) >> Wow. [laughter] Yeah. Because (01:05:32) hydrochloric acid is so important, it (01:05:34) not only um plays an important part in (01:05:37) breaking our protein down. So it's one (01:05:39) thing to eat protein, it's another thing (01:05:41) to break it down. So low hydrochloric (01:05:43) acid can can uh be responsible for not (01:05:46) breaking down the protein properly. Plus (01:05:49) it's also antibacterial, (01:05:51) antifungal, anti- microbial. So I look (01:05:54) at boosting that. We've got a great (01:05:56) herbal mix. It's got genten and ginger. (01:06:01) Yeah. (01:06:01) >> And dandelion and golden seal. Just a (01:06:05) little golden seal. (01:06:06) >> Wow. (01:06:07) >> Golden seal is one of my favorite herbs. (01:06:09) It's called king of tonics to all mucous (01:06:11) membranes. (01:06:12) >> I love that. (01:06:12) >> So, you can sniff it for sinus. You can (01:06:15) rinse your mouth with it. It'll help a (01:06:18) stomach ulcer. It'll help to heal (01:06:20) irritable bowel. So, we we put all those (01:06:22) bitter herbs in and make a tea out of (01:06:26) it. We gently simmer it and all the (01:06:29) guests that come to Misty Mountain, they (01:06:31) get a little cup of that hot just before (01:06:34) each meal because I find everyone can do (01:06:38) with a boost to their hydrochloric acid. (01:06:40) >> Well, that's so good. You know, I I uh (01:06:42) um I had a patient come in recently. I (01:06:44) was working with him and he he came in (01:06:47) and he had his vitamin D levels were (01:06:49) incredibly low on his blood work and he (01:06:52) was supplementing with vitamin D, lots (01:06:54) of it, and he still wasn't getting it. (01:06:55) And part of the problem was is that he (01:06:57) wasn't absorbing it because of bile, (01:06:59) right? His his liver, his panc uh his (01:07:01) gallbladder weren't producing enough (01:07:03) bile. And that's another thing people (01:07:04) don't know about these these bitters is (01:07:06) the importance of of it helping liver (01:07:08) and gall diet that (01:07:10) >> it's the worst. (01:07:11) >> Oh, the worst in the world. The poor old (01:07:15) the poor old liver and gallbladder. They (01:07:17) weren't doing anything. Yeah. (01:07:19) >> Cuz there's no fat to make any bile. (01:07:21) Well, I know in the Western world all (01:07:22) the emphasis like most everybody is (01:07:24) sweet and salty, right? But it's bitter (01:07:26) and sour that have mo most of these (01:07:28) medicinal benefits. (01:07:30) >> They do. And there's the null saying (01:07:31) bitter to the mouth, sweet to the (01:07:33) stomach, sweet to the liver. Sweet to (01:07:35) the mouth, bitter to the stomach, bitter (01:07:37) to the liver. So all your liver herbs (01:07:39) are bitter herbs. So that digestive tea (01:07:42) mix, we affectionately call it dig tea. (01:07:45) [laughter] (01:07:45) >> Oh yeah. (01:07:46) >> And we make up a whole batch of it and (01:07:48) heat it up. We've we've seen remarkable (01:07:51) results. I myself suffered from anemia (01:07:54) for many many years and I realized my (01:07:57) first husband was a drug addict and an (01:07:59) alcoholic. So life was a little (01:08:01) stressful (01:08:02) >> and even when I was a single mother for (01:08:05) four years still I suffered from anemia (01:08:08) and this is a huge journey. They (01:08:11) >> they said Barbara you you must be (01:08:13) bleeding somewhere. you have to have an (01:08:15) esophagoscopy, a colonoscopy. (01:08:18) And I only went and had all these (01:08:20) because I was under so much pressure, a (01:08:23) single mother with six children, but it, (01:08:26) you know, there was nothing wrong there. (01:08:28) And then I just had to work it out for (01:08:30) myself. So I went to my anatomy and (01:08:31) physiology books and I studied iron and (01:08:35) iron is bound up in food and it needs (01:08:38) acid to free it (01:08:40) >> and your feritin levels which are iron (01:08:43) stored it your iron is stored with (01:08:46) protein but if your hydrochloric acid (01:08:48) levels are down you don't have enough (01:08:50) protein (01:08:51) >> and I thought my problem's low (01:08:52) hydrochloric acid (01:08:54) >> so I put that tea together (01:08:56) >> to boost my hydrochloric acid levels (01:08:59) >> wow (01:08:59) >> and After 6 months, I had another blood (01:09:02) test. (01:09:03) My h my hemoglobin was 15. [laughter] (01:09:07) My feritin levels were way way up. And (01:09:12) yet my feritin levels at one point were (01:09:14) three. My hemoglobin levels at one point (01:09:16) were five. So that's how low I used to (01:09:20) get. All I did was boost my hydrochloric (01:09:23) acid. M (01:09:24) >> in fact in my book Self-H heal by Design (01:09:26) I've got a section on anemia and I've (01:09:28) got my story in the back of there (01:09:31) because it's a remarkable story. It was (01:09:32) just hydrochloric acid. (01:09:34) >> Yeah, that's incredible. It's (01:09:35) incredible. You know, one of the uh one (01:09:38) of the other conditions uh or groups of (01:09:41) conditions that are just growing really (01:09:42) rapidly today are neurological issues. (01:09:45) Alzheimer's is a big one. Have you seen (01:09:48) any good results with Alzheimer's (01:09:50) disease in terms of diet, supplements, (01:09:52) treatments that that that you recommend? (01:09:55) >> You know, we have and much depends on (01:09:57) why. (01:09:58) >> Yeah. (01:09:58) >> So, in England, you've got the history (01:10:01) of Margaret Thatcher. You've got also in (01:10:03) the US Ronald Reagan who boasted that (01:10:06) they only needed 5 hours sleep a night (01:10:08) and yet they spent the last 20 years (01:10:09) with severe Alzheimer's dementia. (01:10:13) >> And now the research, especially uh Dr. (01:10:15) Matthew Walker in his book while we (01:10:17) sleep he shows that it's in the early (01:10:19) hours of the night the glimpmphatic (01:10:22) system that's made up of gly cells (01:10:24) cleans up any little beginnings of amoid (01:10:27) plaques. (01:10:27) >> Yeah. (01:10:28) >> And of course what they have found in (01:10:30) people with dementia doing postmortems (01:10:33) on they've all got these amoid plaques (01:10:35) these calcified deposits. So I think if (01:10:38) Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan had (01:10:40) known that they would have gone to bed (01:10:42) early. (01:10:42) >> Yeah. See, it's in the early hours of (01:10:44) the night. This lymphatic system keeps a (01:10:47) check check on a lot. (01:10:49) >> I'm not saying all Alzheimer's is due to (01:10:52) lack of sleep, but it's a huge factor. (01:10:55) We had one lady, she came to our retreat (01:10:57) with Alzheimer's. If someone comes with (01:10:59) Alzheimer's, they have to come with a (01:11:00) carer. (01:11:01) >> Yeah. (01:11:01) >> Cuz we're not a hospital. (01:11:03) >> And she was 69. And when I looked at (01:11:06) her, she just looked through me beyond (01:11:09) me. And I discovered she didn't drink (01:11:12) water. and she her bowels hadn't opened (01:11:13) for six days. So, we gave her herbs to (01:11:15) get the bowels moving, got her hydrated. (01:11:18) Within 48 hours, there was no sign of (01:11:20) Alzheimer's or dementia. (01:11:22) >> Wow. (01:11:22) >> That was an easy fix. It's not always an (01:11:24) easy fix. (01:11:26) >> So, that it it's different. (01:11:28) >> Yeah. (01:11:28) >> You know, just different strokes for (01:11:30) different folks is the is the saying. (01:11:33) >> Well, yeah. I love you sharing this (01:11:34) because one one of the things it reminds (01:11:35) me of is when you when we look at our (01:11:39) bodies, we have this body clock, right? (01:11:41) We're connected to the earth with this (01:11:42) with these circadian rhythms. And there (01:11:44) are different times according to these (01:11:46) ancient forms of medicine where (01:11:48) different organs are the most active. (01:11:52) And you know that 11:00 a.m. time period (01:11:54) to to to three that's like liver, (01:11:56) gallbladder, you have that 3 to 7, (01:11:59) that's more the colon, the lungs, the (01:12:01) entire immune system. But there are (01:12:03) times where the brain needs to (01:12:04) regenerate and heal the most. It does. (01:12:06) And those hours you're talking about uh (01:12:08) with with lack of sleep, your body (01:12:10) cannot regenerate and heal if you're not (01:12:12) getting rest. (01:12:13) >> That is right. So there's not only the (01:12:14) cleaning system, but melatonin and (01:12:16) melatonin is very interesting because (01:12:18) melatonin is released by our gut flora. (01:12:21) >> Yeah. (01:12:22) >> So we're getting back to the gut again. (01:12:24) >> Yeah. So the melatonin is released (01:12:27) between say here summertime 1000 p.m. (01:12:30) and 3:00 a.m. In the winter time between (01:12:32) 9:00 p.m. and 2:00 a.m. Melatonin is (01:12:35) called the fix and rejuvenate nighttime (01:12:37) hormone. So it's melatonin that's (01:12:39) responsible for the increase in healing (01:12:43) regeneration in those early hours before (01:12:46) midnight and just after midnight. Now, (01:12:48) what do you think the biggest reasons (01:12:49) are that I mean cortisol and melatonin (01:12:52) as hormones are incredibly imbalanced (01:12:54) and they're causing all these other (01:12:55) hormonal issues and healing issues. What (01:12:57) are the root of those issues being out (01:12:58) of balance and how can people bring (01:13:00) those back into balance? Do (01:13:01) >> you know there's an old saying of people (01:13:03) burning the candle at both ends? (01:13:05) >> Yeah. [laughter] Yeah. Yeah. (01:13:07) >> And really that's what it is. Instead of (01:13:10) instead of having that nightly rest, (01:13:12) people are pushing themselves pushing (01:13:14) themselves. I love I love God's perfect (01:13:18) formula in that eight hours to work, (01:13:20) eight hours to play, eight hours to (01:13:22) sleep. (01:13:22) >> Yeah. (01:13:23) >> And that's that's what I aim to Right (01:13:25) now we're playing. To me, this is fun. (01:13:27) >> This is fun. This is fun. (01:13:29) >> So the So it's it's getting back to (01:13:32) proper sleep. But also, you got to have (01:13:34) your lights out. You got to have all (01:13:36) technology out of your bedroom. You got (01:13:37) to have an open window. You got to be (01:13:40) sleeping in natural fiber. None of this (01:13:42) polyester kn I recently, not recent, a (01:13:45) few years ago, I switched almost on (01:13:48) occasion certain dress clothes I don't. (01:13:49) But all my clothes now are wool. Almost (01:13:52) everything. I have a little bit of (01:13:52) organic cotton, but almost everything (01:13:54) now is wool that I wear because the (01:13:57) Bible talks about this too, right? Not (01:13:58) combining two. Yeah. (01:14:00) >> When I was in Scotland last year, I had (01:14:02) a security guard around me the whole (01:14:04) time for this big event. His name's Alex (01:14:07) and his ex-marine. He said, "You know, (01:14:09) all the Marines now, their underwear, (01:14:11) their boxer shorts, their their under (01:14:14) t-shirts, all 100% marino." (01:14:16) >> Yeah. (01:14:17) >> It's really fine. You see in the sheep, (01:14:20) the wool at the neck is very very fine (01:14:24) and it's not prickly. (01:14:26) >> Yeah. (01:14:26) >> So, that's what they make the underwear (01:14:28) out of. Whereas the back, we make the (01:14:31) big thick woolly coats out of that, the (01:14:33) Aaron jumpers out of that. I don't want (01:14:34) to share too much, but I'm actually (01:14:36) wearing the, you know, marino underwear (01:14:38) right now. So, it's the best. Absolutely (01:14:40) the best. (01:14:40) >> Oh, it is. And I say to people, I'm only (01:14:43) little and I get cold quickly, so I (01:14:45) borrow from the sheep. And I love this. (01:14:47) This is Kashmir. That's wonderful. (01:14:50) That's particularly soft. So, (01:14:52) >> when when you wear natural fiber, (01:14:55) especially the wool, and the reason why (01:14:57) the Marines like it is it dries so (01:15:00) quickly. (01:15:01) >> Yes. and they can wear it for 5 days (01:15:03) when they're out on patrol (01:15:05) >> and it doesn't smell. (01:15:06) >> No, because it's breathing and it dries (01:15:08) quickly and they don't chill if they get (01:15:10) wet. (01:15:12) >> Why do you think you've become such an (01:15:14) an international phenomenon to the point (01:15:17) to where you're speaking at certain (01:15:18) events, you have marine bodyguards, (01:15:20) people there protecting you? Why why do (01:15:23) you think your message has resonated (01:15:25) with so many people? I think because (01:15:28) it's simple and I think because it's (01:15:30) reachable. And probably my most famous (01:15:32) is put a crystal of Celtic salt or Baja (01:15:35) salt on your tongue and drink a glass of (01:15:37) water. That one's just gone viral. And (01:15:39) you know why I think it's gone viral cuz (01:15:42) you can do it. (01:15:43) >> You can do it at home. You don't have to (01:15:45) pay a doctor. You can Yeah. Yeah. That's (01:15:47) the thing that I so appreciate about (01:15:48) everything you put out is is that I can (01:15:50) go into my pantry. I can go to my local (01:15:52) farmer. I can, you know, go to my (01:15:54) grocery store. I can just Yeah. open up (01:15:55) my cabinet and there's medicine there (01:15:58) >> that that's inexpensive that I don't (01:16:00) have to pay thousands of dollars of (01:16:01) insurance or this or it doesn't have a (01:16:03) side effect. (01:16:04) >> That's right. It's so simple. It's a (01:16:05) reachable thing. It's something that (01:16:07) everyone can do. I think that's why it's (01:16:11) so popular. (01:16:12) >> You know, I I think one of the things (01:16:13) that's happened today in mainstream (01:16:14) medicine, by the way, when you look at (01:16:15) the statistics, mainstream medicine (01:16:18) today is the le people trust it trust it (01:16:21) less than they ever have by far in (01:16:23) history. Do you know? I hope so. (01:16:25) >> I really hope so. I'm not against (01:16:28) doctors. Some of my best friends are (01:16:29) doctors and I'm sure you'll be one of my (01:16:31) best friends now. (01:16:33) >> That that I think most doctors are (01:16:35) ethical, (01:16:36) >> but the pharmaceutical company is not. (01:16:39) That's right. (01:16:39) >> And you can testify to this more than I (01:16:41) can that a large part of what you learn (01:16:44) in medicine today is pharmarmacology. (01:16:47) >> Well, yeah. Yeah. And and you know I (01:16:49) would also say this is that it's uh the (01:16:53) to your point a lot of doctors do have (01:16:55) good intentions but but the most doctors (01:16:58) get zero hours of nutrition training (01:17:00) MDs. Now I have I have a DC training so (01:17:02) we did get some nutrition training. Uh (01:17:04) and we had a little little (01:17:05) pharmarmacology but not near as much as (01:17:07) as a as a full-on MD. But the problem is (01:17:10) zero zero nutrition. The only thing they (01:17:13) learn is how to diagnose common things (01:17:16) and prescribe drugs for them or do a (01:17:18) surgery. So there's no nutrition, (01:17:19) there's no herbs, there's no lifestyle. (01:17:21) You know, you know how many times I've (01:17:22) had patients who um have come to me it (01:17:25) and it used to be where they would (01:17:27) because I practice natural medicine, (01:17:29) they would come see me after they've (01:17:30) already seen 10 different doctors, (01:17:31) right? And you've probably have the same (01:17:33) thing. It's like they've been to all (01:17:34) these doctors, finally they're (01:17:35) desperate, and then they go they go see (01:17:37) you. But so often um I would have I (01:17:40) would ask them what their doctor told (01:17:42) them to do and most of the time it was (01:17:44) just take a drug. You know the average (01:17:46) doctor visit is seven minutes. That's (01:17:49) the visit. You know how much time they (01:17:51) look at the file for one minute. So how (01:17:53) can a doctor ever know you and treat you (01:17:55) correctly when it's like okay (01:17:58) hypothyroid oh maybe thyroid okay here's (01:18:00) a here's a (01:18:01) >> oh it's on the computer. They just click (01:18:02) click click click and the computer will (01:18:04) tell them what drug to give. But I I (01:18:08) going back to that Psalm 146, put not (01:18:10) your trust in princes. I believe the the (01:18:13) doctors should stop putting their trust (01:18:15) in the pharmaceutical company. (01:18:17) >> Oh, that's so good. (01:18:18) >> They must stop because they trust that (01:18:22) they've done the research. And we've (01:18:24) seen it in the paper many times, the (01:18:26) whistleblower, they're they're not doing (01:18:28) the testing. They're not. I want to say (01:18:30) the five largest lawsuits ever in the (01:18:34) United States are for pharmaceutical (01:18:37) companies hiding evidence that their (01:18:39) drug was killing people. There was a (01:18:40) drug called Vio. Now, this was probably (01:18:42) 15 years ago, but it killed almost now (01:18:45) some people say it's more than this, a (01:18:46) 100,000 people, one drug alone. And so, (01:18:49) but but you know, again, there's so much (01:18:51) money behind this, but I think because (01:18:52) of one thing I do appreciate about (01:18:54) social media is that people want to know (01:18:57) the truth. (01:18:58) >> Yeah. And I think co coming out of that (01:19:00) more people than ever realized, oh, I've (01:19:02) been lied to. So if I've been lied to (01:19:03) about CO, (01:19:05) >> what else have I been lied to about all (01:19:07) this time? And so then people sort of (01:19:09) wake up and become more aware and then (01:19:11) they [clears throat] start searching (01:19:12) out, you know, the truth. (01:19:15) >> And a very similar thing happens at our (01:19:17) health retreat. (01:19:18) >> At our health retreat, people start (01:19:21) doing the juicing, natural remedies, and (01:19:24) they're getting responses. and say, "You (01:19:26) know what? They think they're right on (01:19:28) the health. Maybe they're right on God." (01:19:31) >> That's right. (01:19:32) >> And that and that's what we love. (01:19:34) >> Yeah. I love that as well. You know, I I (01:19:36) had a spinal infection a few years ago (01:19:38) from just a minor medical procedure went (01:19:40) wrong and um and it was it was a natural (01:19:43) procedure using my own cells and I got (01:19:45) my my my disc got infected and then my (01:19:47) bone and then I had an absess in my (01:19:49) spinal cord. I had a doctor tell me an (01:19:51) infectious disease doctor you're he he (01:19:53) told me this. He said, "Your best case (01:19:55) scenario is you have chronic pain the (01:19:57) rest of your life." And he said, "In all (01:19:59) likelihood, you're going to be (01:19:59) permanently disabled or have to fuse (01:20:01) your spine." This is 3 years ago. And I (01:20:03) remember for just a short time thinking (01:20:05) like 24 hours my life is over. And then (01:20:07) I realized, you know what, the great (01:20:08) physician is better than this physician. (01:20:11) And I just meditated on Bible verses day (01:20:13) and night. Like, you know, one one in (01:20:14) particular, um, I want to think it's (01:20:16) it's Psalms maybe 102, and it was, (01:20:18) "Bless the Lord, oh my soul, and forget (01:20:20) not all of his benefits. who healed, who (01:20:22) forgives all of our sins, heals all of (01:20:24) our diseases. 103. And I just meditated (01:20:27) on that verse day and night and day and (01:20:29) night. And you know what? I have zero (01:20:31) pain. I'm healed. I'm healthier than I (01:20:33) was before. (01:20:33) >> You claim the promises. And now you'll (01:20:36) know that all you have to do is put a (01:20:38) pus on it. (01:20:39) >> Yeah. Yeah. I actually did some draw. (01:20:42) It'll draw that out. (01:20:43) >> You know, I did I did I did picuses. I (01:20:45) did a lot of hyperaric chamber. That was (01:20:47) I was blown away at the benefits of and (01:20:50) and I didn't know you did that. So So (01:20:51) you've you've utilized hyperbear (01:20:53) chamber. Oh yeah. (01:20:54) >> What are the benefits? How what do you (01:20:56) >> Well, it's based on Henry's law that (01:20:58) under pressure more gas goes into a (01:21:01) liquid (01:21:02) >> and of course the gas is pure oxygen and (01:21:04) the liquid is is our blood which is the (01:21:06) oxygen character (01:21:08) >> um carrier. And so being in that (01:21:11) hyperbaric chamber you're getting blast (01:21:13) of oxygen. (01:21:14) >> Yeah. And and one thing I've heard you (01:21:15) quote before I want to say was Otto (01:21:16) Warberg, right? And he said that the (01:21:18) cause of cancer is it's really twofold. (01:21:20) It's excess sugar and not enough oxygen (01:21:23) in the body. (01:21:23) >> Cancer cannot live in the presence of (01:21:26) oxygen. (01:21:27) >> And so that's what they're finding. The (01:21:29) hyperbaric chamber was first developed (01:21:31) for divers with bends (01:21:32) >> because you know the air we breathe 79% (01:21:35) is nitrogen and the 21% is oxygen. So (01:21:39) the divers when they come up too quick (01:21:41) the the nitrogen can't be dispersed. It (01:21:43) goes into little bubbles in joints and (01:21:46) muscles and that's the bends. That's the (01:21:47) pain. So they developed the hyperbaric (01:21:50) chamber to put the divers in to blast (01:21:53) this oxygen in which disperses the (01:21:55) nitrogen and out it goes. (01:21:57) >> Wow. So that's why it was originally (01:21:59) developed for divers with bends. But (01:22:01) then they discovered that especially (01:22:03) diabetics with slow wound healing and (01:22:05) they're finding it's also helping cancer (01:22:08) patients because (01:22:10) >> and you know the glycolytic cycle in the (01:22:12) cell doesn't use oxygen but you get down (01:22:14) to the KB cycle in the mitochondria. It (01:22:17) uses oxygen. So that cycle will give 18 (01:22:20) times more energy than the glycolytic (01:22:22) with no oxygen. (01:22:24) >> That's powerful. And you mentioned (01:22:26) certain conditions. I mean, yeah, it's (01:22:27) amazing for cancer. It's amazing for (01:22:29) stroke patients or people who have had (01:22:32) um any sort of brain trauma. I I use it (01:22:34) with a lot of families where the kids (01:22:36) have autism (01:22:37) >> and and and so so powerful. So, I love (01:22:39) that you're utilizing that as well. Um (01:22:42) Barbara, this has been a huge blessing. (01:22:43) Let me ask you this. What is your (01:22:45) favorite Bible verse when it comes to (01:22:50) health and healing? (01:22:52) >> That's very difficult. I know cuz you (01:22:54) quoted by by the way your your your (01:22:56) knowledge of scripture today has been uh (01:22:58) probably the thing I've been most (01:23:00) impressed with. Um and I I'm I I really (01:23:02) appreciate that. (01:23:03) >> I I love it. And it's uh it's um (01:23:08) Ecclesiastes chapter 3. It says to (01:23:10) everything there is a season and a time (01:23:12) for every purpose under heaven. A time (01:23:15) to be born and a time to die. A time to (01:23:18) plant, a time to pluck up that which was (01:23:19) planted. A time to kill and a time to (01:23:22) heal. A time to break down. A time to (01:23:25) build up. A time to weep and a time to (01:23:27) laugh. A time to mourn and a time to (01:23:29) dance. (01:23:30) >> A time to cast away stones. A time to (01:23:33) gather stones together. A time to (01:23:35) embrace. A time to refrain from (01:23:37) embracing. A time to get and a time to (01:23:39) lose. A time to keep and a time to cast (01:23:41) away. A time to ren. A time to sow. A (01:23:45) time to keep silence and a time to (01:23:47) speak. A time to love. a time to hate, a (01:23:50) time of war, and a time of peace. There (01:23:52) is a season and a time for every purpose (01:23:55) under heaven. I love that verse because (01:23:57) you can apply it so much to the healing (01:24:00) of the human body and there is a season (01:24:04) and a time for every purpose. I say to (01:24:07) people, there's a t there's a time for (01:24:09) you to exercise. (01:24:10) >> Yeah. (01:24:10) >> There's a time for you to sleep. (01:24:12) >> Yeah. (01:24:13) >> So, timing and you mentioned earlier (01:24:15) circadium rhythm. (01:24:16) >> Whoa. You know what's the best circadium (01:24:18) rhythm setter? Sunshine. (01:24:21) >> Yeah. (01:24:21) >> And that's what I do to get over jet (01:24:23) lag. So, yes, it was very hard for me to (01:24:27) choose a verse to give you. And I'm (01:24:29) sorry I gave you more than one verse. I (01:24:31) >> It was a bless. And if if anybody wants (01:24:32) to know what Barbara does in her spare (01:24:34) time, it's [laughter] not it's not (01:24:35) scroll social media. It's memorize (01:24:37) scripture, which is way more healing, (01:24:39) way more more healthy. Well, Barbara, uh (01:24:41) this was such an honor today. I am so (01:24:44) grateful for the incredible work you've (01:24:45) done in helping teach people how to use (01:24:48) food as medicine, herbs as medicine, the (01:24:50) Bible as medicine, nature is medicine, (01:24:52) and just so grateful for you taking a (01:24:54) lot of these complex matters and making (01:24:56) them simple, free in a lot of cases for (01:24:59) so many people. So, thanks so much for (01:25:00) coming on the show today. It was a real (01:25:01) blessing for me. It's (01:25:02) >> been my pleasure. (01:25:03) >> Thank you so much. (01:25:04) >> Well, everybody, hey, thanks so much for (01:25:06) watching the Dr. Josh Shack Show. (01:25:07) Remember, each and every week we're (01:25:08) diving deep into the science and (01:25:10) principles behind how you can heal (01:25:12) physically, mentally, and spiritually. (01:25:15) Don't forget to subscribe. I want to (01:25:17) mention this. Oftent times on things (01:25:19) like YouTube, some of my videos have (01:25:21) been shadowbanned because people like (01:25:23) Barbara and I are talking about things (01:25:25) that are controversial. So, make sure to (01:25:26) subscribe so this shows up in your feed, (01:25:29) future videos with incredible uh people (01:25:32) of wisdom like Barbara. That's the (01:25:34) number one thing you can do to support (01:25:35) the show. Subscribe. Thank you for (01:25:37) sharing as well. 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